M$oft and the NZ government
hey guys do u think this is good news or bad news? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/26/microsoft_new_zealand/
Re: M$oft and the NZ government
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Josh James josh.westac...@gmail.com wrote: hey guys do u think this is good news or bad news? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/05/26/microsoft_new_zealand/ There has been a lot of discussion about the G2009 process over on the NZOSS OpenChat mailing list, if you're interested in the topic you might want to head over there for a while :-) http://lists.nzoss.org.nz/pipermail/openchat/2009-May/thread.html -jim
ekiga not creating sockets
Hi All, I have been trying for some days to get ekiga-2.0.12 to operate. Iget connected to the Ekiga OK but test calls to 5...@ekiga.net fail with an error msg reading ' STUN could not create RTP/RTCP socket pair;'. google reports plenty of instances of this but I have not found asolution yet. Camera works OK, sound test in setup works ok. Running Mandriva 2008 with 2.6.22.9-desktop-1mdv kernel 512 M memory. Any ideas how to fix the problem welcome. TIA Barry
Re: ekiga not creating sockets
Barry Marchant wrote: I have been trying for some days to get ekiga-2.0.12 to operate. Iget connected to the Ekiga OK but test calls to 5...@ekiga.net fail with an error msg reading ' STUN could not create RTP/RTCP socket pair;'. google reports plenty of instances of this but I have not found asolution yet. Camera works OK, sound test in setup works ok. Running Mandriva 2008 with 2.6.22.9-desktop-1mdv kernel 512 M memory. Any ideas how to fix the problem welcome. Hey! No ideas, but I can at least tell you that ekiga-2.0.12 is working well for me on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. If there's any way I can help with trouble shooting, please feel free to get in touch. Tim -- Timothy Musson FSF Associate Member http://russianclub.wikidot.com/http://www.fsf.org/
Re: ekiga not creating sockets
2009/5/30 Barry Marchant barr...@paradise.net.nz Hi All, I have been trying for some days to get ekiga-2.0.12 to operate. Iget connected to the Ekiga OK but test calls to 5...@ekiga.net fail with an error msg reading ' STUN could not create RTP/RTCP socket pair;'. google reports plenty of instances of this but I have not found asolution yet. Camera works OK, sound test in setup works ok. Running Mandriva 2008 with 2.6.22.9-desktop-1mdv kernel 512 M memory. Any ideas how to fix the problem welcome. You need to check that all the ports required by ekiga are open and forwarding correctly. A possible way might be to use the netcat tool to test that you can connect using the ports and protocols ekiga wants from your machine to another one on the outside of your firewall and vice versa. We could do this tomorrow afternoon. -- Sincerely etc. Christopher Sawtell
Re: ekiga not creating sockets
On Sat, 30 May 2009, Barry Marchant wrote: I have been trying for some days to get ekiga-2.0.12 to operate. Iget connected to the Ekiga OK but test calls to 5...@ekiga.net fail with an error msg reading ' STUN could not create RTP/RTCP socket pair;'. google reports plenty of instances of this but I have not found a solution yet. Ekiga usess the sip protocol to send manage the voice stream. The actual voice packets are encoded into UDP packets. The layout of the data in the UDP packets is known as the RTP format. The management of the media stream is handled with other UDP packets. The management packets contain information about which codec is to be used, which ports for the media stream, what the name of the software application is etc. So- the voice between you and the other person (caller and callee) goes in these RTP packets - which firewalls inevitably tend to block. To get the RTP through the firewalls, there are several approaches. 1)Use firewalls that understand SIP. These firewalls understand the management packets and so knows which udp ports to open to let the media stream go through. The media stream can be on any udp port number (well, any port above 1200 or so.) If you are using the firewall on your linux box, you might be able to turn on sip proxy in the firewall. 2)Extra code has been added to the Ekiga code base to get around this. There is STUN (simple traversal udp over nat) TURN (Transfer Udp with Relay Network). ICE was another, but cannot remember all it stands for. 3)Try adjusting your firewall. There is, I think, a firewall test utility in Ekiga. You might have a cone symmetric or something. Cannot remember all the details, but there is a firewall type that is really bad with voip packets from siph323 applications. error msg reading ' STUN could not create RTP/RTCP socket pair;'. your error message is basically, Ekiga tried to get audio through to the other end, but failed, cause (most likely) a firewall got in the way. The most surefire way of fixing this? Use skype. Seriously, you can fiddle for hours getting this to work. To get skype to work, you only have to hassle your way through sound card issues. To get ekiga to work, you have to hassle your way through sound card issues and firewall issues. Derek. -- Derek Smithies Ph.D. IndraNet Technologies Ltd. Email: de...@indranet.co.nz ph +64 3 365 6485 Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/
Re: ekiga not creating sockets
Derek Smithies wrote: On Sat, 30 May 2009, Barry Marchant wrote: Thanks for the replies, it now works. The problem was in the original configuration druid which set NAT to STUN when it was not required. I have just altered it to None and now get a test reply. now to test it with Chris. Barry
Re: ekiga not creating sockets
On Sun, May 31, 2009 06:04, Derek Smithies wrote: snip The most surefire way of fixing this? Use skype. Seriously, you can fiddle for hours getting this to work. Except that Skype is proprietary and closed. SIP is the Right Answer, so it's worth persevering. A
Re: ekiga not creating sockets
On Sun, 31 May 2009, Andrew Errington wrote: On Sun, May 31, 2009 06:04, Derek Smithies wrote: The most surefire way of fixing this? Use skype. Seriously, you can fiddle for hours getting this to work. Except that Skype is proprietary and closed. SIP is the Right Answer, so it's worth persevering. Yes, you are right in one sense.. Picture yourself in a hotel, far away from home, and keen to ring the wife and family. A skype call will (well, most often) get through the various firewalls in the way and get through. This has huge WAF. That you can get through to home and talk increases the chance that you will get her acceptance for the next trip away. Yes, you can fiddle with sip like phones. However, in my jaundiced experience, they are filled with gobbledygoodk like words that make them hard to setup. Look at Barry's problems. He is not a voip developer, but he is capable enough to do many linux like things. And he had trouble getting Ekiga to work. Skype, on the other hand, is sufficiently easy to setup that people with the minimum of computer skills can make voip calls. It is only on linux that Skype gets hard to setup - mainly cause of the Welcome to the jungle phenomenon talked about on slashdot recently. Which was (effectively): linux sound is a mess. Derek. -- Derek Smithies Ph.D. IndraNet Technologies Ltd. Email: de...@indranet.co.nz ph +64 3 365 6485 Web: http://www.indranet-technologies.com/
Re: ekiga not creating sockets
On Sun, May 31, 2009 12:56, Derek Smithies wrote: On Sun, 31 May 2009, Andrew Errington wrote: On Sun, May 31, 2009 06:04, Derek Smithies wrote: The most surefire way of fixing this? Use skype. Seriously, you can fiddle for hours getting this to work. Except that Skype is proprietary and closed. SIP is the Right Answer, so it's worth persevering. Yes, you are right in one sense.. Picture yourself in a hotel, far away from home, and keen to ring the wife and family. A skype call will (well, most often) get through snip Or a telephone, or a mobile phone. I hear these are capable of sending txt msgs too. Yes, you can fiddle with sip like phones. However, in my jaundiced experience, they are filled with gobbledygoodk like words that make them hard to setup. Look at Barry's problems. He is not a voip developer, but he is capable enough to do many linux like things. And he had trouble getting Ekiga to work. Skype, on the other hand, is sufficiently easy to setup that people with the minimum of computer skills can make voip calls. Or you could use Gizmo, the (proprietary) gateway drug to SIP. Drug here: www.gizmoproject.com (about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gizmo_Project) Using Ekiga discussion: http://grokbase.com/topic/2006/02/24/ekiga-and-gizmo-project/wGgMcx-duioKMhOEDSZxS840zlM It is only on linux that Skype gets hard to setup - mainly cause of the Welcome to the jungle phenomenon talked about on slashdot recently. Which was (effectively): linux sound is a mess. Hmm. apt-get install skype, and, err, that's it. I have no more problems with software on my Linux systems than I do with Windows. Specks of sawdust and wooden beams come to mind. A
