Double Info entries SOLVED

2010-02-08 Thread Aidan Gauland
Aidan Gauland wrote:
 I recently installed Emacs23 from source, and there are two (duplicate)
 entries for some items in the top Info node.  It seems to only be for things
 that come with Emacs.  The second entries take me to the appropriate node, but
 selecting an of the first entries generated the error message,
 Info-find-file: Info file emacs-22/[node] does not exist.

I simply had to remove the emacs-22 entries from /usr/local/share/info/dir.
I'm still not sure how they got there in the first place, but they're gone
now, so that annoyance is gone.

--Aidan



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Tip O'The Day : pigz and pbzip2

2010-02-08 Thread John Carter

Multicores are becoming more and more common. Compression is still
something I need to do regularly.

So some new tools that combine multi-core speed up with compression.

pigz   is a drop in replacement for gzip
pbzip2 is a drop in replacement for bzip2



John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
Tait ElectronicsFax   : (64)(3) 359 4632
PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : john.car...@tait.co.nz
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Re: Tip O'The Day : pigz and pbzip2

2010-02-08 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 11:10 AM, John Carter john.car...@tait.co.nz wrote:
 pigz   is a drop in replacement for gzip
 pbzip2 is a drop in replacement for bzip2

Nice, thanks!


Re: Tip O'The Day : pigz and pbzip2

2010-02-08 Thread Craig Falconer
Yep - I've not used pigz, but be advised that pbzip2 does not produce 
the same file as bzip2 with the same options.


Functionally they're the same and can be treated as such, but a parallel 
bzipped file is a few bytes larger and has multiple  index/lookup 
tables of one per core/thread.  (probably have the name wrong there but 
you get the idea)


So, md5 will be different.

John Carter wrote, On 09/02/10 11:11:

Multicores are becoming more and more common. Compression is still
something I need to do regularly.

So some new tools that combine multi-core speed up with compression.

pigz   is a drop in replacement for gzip
pbzip2 is a drop in replacement for bzip2



John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639
Tait ElectronicsFax   : (64)(3) 359 4632
PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : john.car...@tait.co.nz
New Zealand





--
Craig Falconer



Tip'O'The Day late extra : star, a faster tar

2010-02-08 Thread John Carter

There is a faster tar. It's called star.

It's written by the same guy who did cdrecord, so it is, umm, how to
phrase this?

Ahh. er...

It has opinions.



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http://www.ics.uci.edu/~franz/Site/pubs-pdf/BC03.pdf

Wirth used the compiler’s self-compilation speed as a measure of the
compiler’s quality.

Considering that Wirth’s compilers were written in the languages they
compiled, and that compilers are substantial and non-trivial pieces of
software in their own right, this introduced a highly practical
benchmark that directly contested a compiler's complexity against its
performance.

Under the self- compilation speed benchmark, only those optimizations
were allowed to be incorporated into a compiler that accelerated it by
so much that the intrinsic cost of the new code addition was fully
compensated6


Joke of the day

2010-02-08 Thread Nick Rout
OK we had tip of the day, now joke of the day:

Ubuntu is an ancient African word, meaning can't configure Debian


Revamping my storage

2010-02-08 Thread Nick Rout
OK I have been collecting media files for ages and have:

2 compaq small form factor boxes, one freebsd and one linux, each with
a 300G hard drive for videos. (PATA)

2 external usb hard drives with 300 SATA and 250G PATA respectively.
(each has a brick power supply)

1 mythtv backend box in a tower with a 1TB SATA drive (for tv) and a
750G SATA drive (for videos and music)

These plus a cable modem and router under the stairs contribute
significantly to global warming and power consumption. I'd like to
rationalise this, particularly the 2 compaq boxes and the external
drives. The mythtv box I will pretty well leave alone, its working and
the one mantra about mythtv is that if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

I am wondering about turnkey NAS systems, maybe something to hold
everything that's not in the myth backend box. Ignoring the operating
systems that's about (300+300+300+250 = 1.15T) - so to allow headroom
and avoid the same problem again later I figure something with 2-4TB
would be needed. But that'll cost quite a bit I imagine, and then I'll
have all those drives left over and nothing in particular to do with
them unless I foolishly start down the same track again...

OTOH I could resurrect a tower from the garage with an IDE
motherboard, get a PCI SATA card and shove all those drives in one
box, and maybe a couple more besides.

Anyone got any suggestions to restore sanity to all this?


Re: Revamping my storage

2010-02-08 Thread Andrew Errington
On Tue, February 9, 2010 12:27, Nick Rout wrote:
 OK I have been collecting media files for ages and have:
snip
 Anyone got any suggestions to restore sanity to all this?


You need a SheevaPlug.

Or not.

A




Re: Revamping my storage

2010-02-08 Thread Craig Falconer

You need to rate your data's importance too.

Server 1 - file/etc
2x200 GB drives in a RAID1 for my important stuff
1TB for exported myth recordings (long term storage)
200 GB system drive

Server 2 - mythtv and backups
500 GB for myth live recordings (expires over time)
250GB for backups
40GB system drive

So while I'd like to raid everything, I can't afford that.
Only the important stuff is on a raid, then backed up to another disk, 
which is then off-sited on a USB drive.



How much important data do you have?

We have been toying with freenas and openfiler lately, using iSCSI and 
NFS and cifs to access disks over the network.  Works nicely, but its 
another box


New drives aren't too bad these days - consider a couple of 1-2TB drives 
in a raid1 for all your data.  Depends on budget.




Nick Rout wrote, On 09/02/10 16:27:

OK I have been collecting media files for ages and have:

2 compaq small form factor boxes, one freebsd and one linux, each with
a 300G hard drive for videos. (PATA)

2 external usb hard drives with 300 SATA and 250G PATA respectively.
(each has a brick power supply)

1 mythtv backend box in a tower with a 1TB SATA drive (for tv) and a
750G SATA drive (for videos and music)

These plus a cable modem and router under the stairs contribute
significantly to global warming and power consumption. I'd like to
rationalise this, particularly the 2 compaq boxes and the external
drives. The mythtv box I will pretty well leave alone, its working and
the one mantra about mythtv is that if it ain't broke, don't fix it!

I am wondering about turnkey NAS systems, maybe something to hold
everything that's not in the myth backend box. Ignoring the operating
systems that's about (300+300+300+250 = 1.15T) - so to allow headroom
and avoid the same problem again later I figure something with 2-4TB
would be needed. But that'll cost quite a bit I imagine, and then I'll
have all those drives left over and nothing in particular to do with
them unless I foolishly start down the same track again...

OTOH I could resurrect a tower from the garage with an IDE
motherboard, get a PCI SATA card and shove all those drives in one
box, and maybe a couple more besides.

Anyone got any suggestions to restore sanity to all this?



--
Craig Falconer


Re: Revamping my storage

2010-02-08 Thread steve
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 13:13 +0900, Andrew Errington wrote:
 On Tue, February 9, 2010 12:27, Nick Rout wrote:
  OK I have been collecting media files for ages and have:
 snip
  Anyone got any suggestions to restore sanity to all this?
 
 
 You need a SheevaPlug.
 
 Or not.
 
 A
 
 
I was in 2 minds about suggesting this, as it's going to be a messy
solution...

1. A sheeva plug
2. A powered USB hub
3. n X External USB storage.
4. USB wireless?
5. Number 8 wire
6. ???
7. Profit!

Steve
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Re: Revamping my storage

2010-02-08 Thread steve
A curse on top posters!

I sort of disagree with this... haven't seen 200GB disks for ages
anywhere!

1TB disks are under $150 each now. I go for simplicity rather than
saving the odd $50 and mirror the server - which is raid 10 - using a
remote raid 5 box, and a cheap WD green 5 port gigabyte switch. Overkill
for most households, but I have the luxury of working from home most of
the time!

I also save the really important stuff to a remote server in Texas. If
you haven't come across snapback2, I really like it as a simple,
space-effective backup method.

The biggest problem I have is rats chewing the cabling. Walnut trees.
Always attracts them.

I think freenas is going linux kernel soon, if it hasn't already.
This'll make it much more workable, as the lack of hardware support was
really annoying.

Steve
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 17:31 +1300, Craig Falconer wrote:
 You need to rate your data's importance too.
 
 Server 1 - file/etc
 2x200 GB drives in a RAID1 for my important stuff
 1TB for exported myth recordings (long term storage)
 200 GB system drive
 
 Server 2 - mythtv and backups
 500 GB for myth live recordings (expires over time)
 250GB for backups
 40GB system drive
 
 So while I'd like to raid everything, I can't afford that.
 Only the important stuff is on a raid, then backed up to another disk, 
 which is then off-sited on a USB drive.
 
 
 How much important data do you have?
 
 We have been toying with freenas and openfiler lately, using iSCSI and 
 NFS and cifs to access disks over the network.  Works nicely, but its 
 another box
 
 New drives aren't too bad these days - consider a couple of 1-2TB drives 
 in a raid1 for all your data.  Depends on budget.
 
 
 
 Nick Rout wrote, On 09/02/10 16:27:
  OK I have been collecting media files for ages and have:
  
  2 compaq small form factor boxes, one freebsd and one linux, each with
  a 300G hard drive for videos. (PATA)
  
  2 external usb hard drives with 300 SATA and 250G PATA respectively.
  (each has a brick power supply)
  
  1 mythtv backend box in a tower with a 1TB SATA drive (for tv) and a
  750G SATA drive (for videos and music)
  
  These plus a cable modem and router under the stairs contribute
  significantly to global warming and power consumption. I'd like to
  rationalise this, particularly the 2 compaq boxes and the external
  drives. The mythtv box I will pretty well leave alone, its working and
  the one mantra about mythtv is that if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
  
  I am wondering about turnkey NAS systems, maybe something to hold
  everything that's not in the myth backend box. Ignoring the operating
  systems that's about (300+300+300+250 = 1.15T) - so to allow headroom
  and avoid the same problem again later I figure something with 2-4TB
  would be needed. But that'll cost quite a bit I imagine, and then I'll
  have all those drives left over and nothing in particular to do with
  them unless I foolishly start down the same track again...
  
  OTOH I could resurrect a tower from the garage with an IDE
  motherboard, get a PCI SATA card and shove all those drives in one
  box, and maybe a couple more besides.
  
  Anyone got any suggestions to restore sanity to all this?
 
 
-- 
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MSN: st...@greengecko.co.nz
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Re: This years format.

2010-02-08 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On 9 February 2010 17:55, Tom Smith snake...@xtra.co.nz wrote:

 Hi Guys and gals.

 Durring the time I have been on the clug list I have been to only one
 fixit-up evening and I think would like to be more involved.


 If its been all ready posted or is found on a site, please give link. My
 apologies if this is all ready been mentioned.

 What is this years intended/hopeful format for fixit-up evenings,
 information nights, install-fests and such.



Also who is responsible for arranging this.



 If I remember correctly Christopher used to do a lot of work in this area.


That's correct. He did, for several years. He found that as the years
passed, Linux became so much more sophisticated and easier to install  use,
the need for install-festivals and fix-up evenings became so close to zero,
that the number of people in the audiences became so small that we could no
longer justify the expense of hiring a hall.

He also took an extended break from Christchurch last Winter, and does not
now feel a personal need or urge to take on the stress of running the CLUG
meetings.

Many Linux user groups have mogrified into geek oriented social clubs which
meet informally in licensed premises. Christopher's suggestion is that we
follow that horde. One LUG with which he had a very brief contact had their
meeting on the same day of the month by date. This means that the day in the
week changes continually, thus avoiding continuous clashes with other
activities.

How does that sound to other CLUG list members?

Christopher has no particular preference for a date, except that he will be
otherwise occupied on the 15th. of this month.

-- 
Sincerely etc.
Christopher Sawtell


Re: Joke of the day

2010-02-08 Thread Ryan McCoskrie
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:32:21 Nick Rout wrote:
 OK we had tip of the day, now joke of the day:
 
 Ubuntu is an ancient African word, meaning can't configure Debian

No it means Slackware is to hard for me. Everyone knows that.

-- 
Quote of the login: 
Real Programmers think better when playing Adventure or Rogue.


Re: This years format.

2010-02-08 Thread Ryan McCoskrie
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:49:41 Christopher Sawtell wrote:
 Many Linux user groups have mogrified into geek oriented social clubs
  which meet informally in licensed premises. Christopher's suggestion is
  that we follow that horde. 
Would it be possible to go in the other direction and do workshops on 
particular things that can be done? For instance, Programming one night, 
administration another and something else the next.

  One LUG with which he had a very brief
  contact had their meeting on the same day of the month by date. This
  means that the day in the week changes continually, thus avoiding
  continuous clashes with other activities.

That sounds like a good idea.

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Re: This years format.

2010-02-08 Thread yuri
 Many Linux user groups have mogrified into geek
 oriented social clubs which meet informally in licensed
 premises. Christopher's suggestion is that we
 follow that horde. One LUG with which he had a very
 brief contact had their meeting on the same day of the
 month by date. This means that the day in the
 week changes continually, thus avoiding continuous
 clashes with other activities.

 How does that sound to other CLUG list members?

I vote we do this. Including the fixed date thing so we don't clash every time.

Yuri


Re: Joke of the day

2010-02-08 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Ryan McCoskrie ryan.mccosk...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:32:21 Nick Rout wrote:
 OK we had tip of the day, now joke of the day:

 Ubuntu is an ancient African word, meaning can't configure Debian

 No it means Slackware is to hard for me. Everyone knows that.

LOL

s/Slackware/gentoo/