cable testing?

2010-03-02 Thread Nick Rout
I have run a couple of cat5e cables and I am trying to terminate them,
unsuccessfully at present.

Will a cable tester help me? I suspect that each time I put a plug on
the end one or more of the wires is in the wrong place, or not quite
long enough to make the connection. Coupled with this I am only 90%
sure which cable end is which at the switch end (ie the centre of the
star), having failed to mark them.

Is there some sort of cable tester that can, eg, tell me what wires
are right and what are wrong, and which end of the cable is wired
wrong?

And, heres the hit, can someone in ChCh  lend me one?

Desperate and frustrated in Linwood.

N


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Re: cable testing?

2010-03-02 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
 I have run a couple of cat5e cables and I am trying to terminate them,
 unsuccessfully at present.
 
 Will a cable tester help me?

Depends on the problem, but prob yes. If you broke copper core pulling
the cables the tester should show that (not fix it though). If you mixed
up cables it'll show that too - but only after the crimping.

 I suspect that each time I put a plug on
 the end one or more of the wires is in the wrong place, or not quite
 long enough to make the connection.

Only improved technique will help there. The tester will only show a bad
job afterwards.

 Coupled with this I am only 90%
 sure which cable end is which at the switch end (ie the centre of the
 star), having failed to mark them.

That's the easier bit, assuming you have easy access to all 8 ends of
both cat5e cables on both sides, and you are not too colour blind to
tell the colouring apart. Connect the ends of a pair of one cable
together on one side. On the other side, use a multimeter (ohm setting)
to see which 2 ends of the same coloured pair are shortened - that's the
same cable. There are a gazillion ways to do similar things, like use a
plugpack/battery and a torch bulb. Specialised equipment made for this
purpose is lacking the geek factor...

 Is there some sort of cable tester that can, eg, tell me what wires
 are right and what are wrong, and which end of the cable is wired
 wrong?

Yes, basic cheap ones run a continuity test on all 8 wires. They tell if
some are swapped, but NOT if the 4 pairs are kept paired (i.e. if
there is a double-fault which cancels itself), in which case it'll show
ok for a cable which doesn't work. You MUST keep the pairs paired,
though you can swap one pair with another as long as you do it the same
on both ends. (I strongly recommend you stick with the prescribed colour
scheme, or you're risking your sanity next time you do wiring work on
one side and forgot you changed things aroud on the other side too.)

Things a simple continuity tester won't show:

* Breaks or bad contacts reliably if there is a fraction of connectivity
left.

* Swapped wires (see above).

* High frequency response of the cable. Meaning it doesn't stress test
and it won't show whether the cable will actually work when connected to
Ethernet interfaces.

But it should show the sort of trouble you seem to have.

 And, heres the hit, can someone in ChCh  lend me one?

Yes, both tester and multimeter.

Volker

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Re: cable testing?

2010-03-02 Thread Robert Fisher

Volker Kuhlmann wrote:


And, heres the hit, can someone in ChCh  lend me one?


Yes, both tester and multimeter.

In my experience it is usually not the cables / wires which give 
problems but bad or incorrect terminations.


I can lend you a good terminating tool if you like (not the cheap 
plastic one).


Rob


Re: chroot sftp users

2010-03-02 Thread Glenn Cogle
Absolutely.

A backup isn't a backup unless it can be restored from.

GC

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Jim Cheetham j...@gonzul.net wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Glenn Cogle gco...@gmail.com wrote:
  Box is backed up to tape 5 nights/week.  I like backups - they help me
  sleep.

 I used to sleep because of backups ... but now I sleep because restore
 works.

 You are testing restore regularly I hope ... :-|

 -jim



Re: cable testing?

2010-03-02 Thread Craig Falconer

Nick Rout wrote, On 02/03/10 21:49:

I have run a couple of cat5e cables and I am trying to terminate them,
unsuccessfully at present.


What kind of cable?  Solid core or stranded?  Is it fixed in the wall or 
is it running around the floor?



Will a cable tester help me? I suspect that each time I put a plug on
the end one or more of the wires is in the wrong place, or not quite
long enough to make the connection. Coupled with this I am only 90%
sure which cable end is which at the switch end (ie the centre of the
star), having failed to mark them.


Easy way is to use a tone source.  I have one.


Is there some sort of cable tester that can, eg, tell me what wires
are right and what are wrong, and which end of the cable is wired
wrong?


Yes and no...  Cable continuity testers are $20 to $100ish and they step 
across 8 or 9 pins sequentially, putting a voltage on the other wires to 
 complete the circuit.


More expensive boxes are called scanners and cost thousands - they can 
do things like testing all OSI layers (ie speak a full smtp session with 
a remote host) as well as testing actual voltages, cable lengths, noise 
factors, etc.


We had an issue with an IBM x3350 server... loverly 1RU box with a dual 
core CPU, lightpath, raid, dual PSUs etc etc.  Worth around $7k.  It 
would randomly drop HD0, and possibly lock up and die.  Once it 
completely lost both ethernet interfaces on a dual port PCIe NIC.

It is dual UPSed up the wazoo.
We replaced the IBM motherboard, drives three times, cables, backplane, 
raid controller, ethernet card, riser board etc all to no avail.
Turns out that there was a POE injector up the cable, and it was putting 
out-of-spec voltages down the ethernet straight into the firewall. 
Putting a fuse in place (actually a cheapie 5 port ethernet switch as a 
sacrificial protection) seems to have cured the problem.

So a voltage-reading scanner scope would have found that much quicker.
The previous box in the same position was an IBM x306, which died in a 
similar but more permanent way.


http://www.atecorp.com/equipment/fluke/675.asp
That one even measures token ring round-trip time and corrupt packet 
generation.  Its worth around $25k.




And, heres the hit, can someone in ChCh  lend me one?


Of course!



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Craig Falconer


Re: chroot sftp users

2010-03-02 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Glenn Cogle gco...@gmail.com wrote:
 A backup isn't a backup unless it can be restored from.

On that subject, because of O'Reilley's current 3-for-2 book deal, I
just refreshed my 11 year old copy of Unix Backup  Recovery with
the newer Backup  Recovery, which covers Unix, Linux, OS X and
Windows. Very highly recommended, an excellent and accessible book.
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596102463/

It's primarily about open source tools being used for backup
environments, and is pretty close to being an essential read. However,
you can get most of his advice on http://backupcentral.com/

I was flipping through the old book, and out of the front dropped some
printouts :- the complete procedure for installing AMANDA (client and
server) on one of my old employer's systems, and the config files! I
guess in the pre-wiki world (this would have been late 1999) I'd put a
copy of the procedures in the best place to look in an emergency -- in
the Backup  Recovery book!

Now I must remember to check that I have paper dumps of restore data
for other machines ...

-jim