Re: Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-26 Thread Linux on Back2Go





I have looked a bit, between out in the sun chores, thanks for suggestions-
I had a laptop running Ubuntu for this plan but the power in socket got 
broken because the techs for DSE who fixed it a year or more ago under 
warranty didn't put it back together properly 
Bought a ext case for its HD but it appears to be a Hitachi that has a 
different connection from anything else on the planet.
I use a EEE mostly for day to day life and have thought of buying one- 
install GOS and Gramps but I don't think they are robust enough to 
survive being lent.
Old Mandrake or Debian of the day with Gramps of that day in this IBM 
looks an option, it is small enough to carry the box, but robust in that 
it needs to be set up on the peoples existing screen, key pad and mouse 
with adapter.
But Damn Small Linux or Puppy, look good on the net, read a page by some 
dude who put GRAMPS on a Puppy but I did not understand what he was on 
about nor could T figure if it ran OK or was near impossible or what???
Are there any / many GRAMPS users in the group, it is one of those 
things I do full on for a few weeks a year and then forget, and I can 
see a website is my next port of call.




Re: Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-26 Thread Nick Rout
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Linux on Back2Go li...@back2go.co.nz wrote:


 I have looked a bit, between out in the sun chores, thanks for suggestions-
 I had a laptop running Ubuntu for this plan but the power in socket got
 broken because the techs for DSE who fixed it a year or more ago under
 warranty didn't put it back together properly 
 Bought a ext case for its HD but it appears to be a Hitachi that has a
 different connection from anything else on the planet.
 I use a EEE mostly for day to day life and have thought of buying one-
 install GOS and Gramps but I don't think they are robust enough to survive
 being lent.
 Old Mandrake or Debian of the day with Gramps of that day in this IBM looks
 an option, it is small enough to carry the box, but robust in that it needs
 to be set up on the peoples existing screen, key pad and mouse with adapter.
 But Damn Small Linux or Puppy, look good on the net, read a page by some
 dude who put GRAMPS on a Puppy but I did not understand what he was on about
 nor could T figure if it ran OK or was near impossible or what???
 Are there any / many GRAMPS users in the group, it is one of those things I
 do full on for a few weeks a year and then forget, and I can see a website
 is my next port of call.



I believe Barry is interested in genealogy and may use gramps.

I played with it a while ago, but an earlier version. There appear to
have been significant changes in architecture, including a move from
the data being in a large xml file to using berkley DB (which should
get better performance with large data collections).

The best way to try it is to suck it and see. May I suggest:

1. do a minimal text based server install of ubuntu.

2. do aptitude install gramps abiword

aptitude will pull in all dependencies including X and gnome
libraries. This should give you the most minimal install. Then see how
it works. If it doesn't work well, consider a newer|faster|higher ram
machine. You will have lost nothing except your own time.


Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-25 Thread Linux on Back2Go
Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use 
machine.
I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most 
bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe 
a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and 
monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it,
Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few 
days too if that helps, cheers Kevin   also on 0272497326 but text is best


RE: Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-25 Thread Payne, Owen
You could try a cutdown version or spin yourself a distro with only the
things that you need on it 

-Original Message-
From: Linux on Back2Go [mailto:li...@back2go.co.nz] 
Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 11:36 am
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Distro for a single use machine

Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use
machine.
I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most
bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe
a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and
monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it,
Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few 
days too if that helps, cheers Kevin   also on 0272497326 but text is
best

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Re: Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-25 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Linux on Back2Go li...@back2go.co.nz wrote:
 Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use
 machine.
 I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most
 bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe a
 very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and monitor.
 So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it,
 Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few days
 too if that helps, cheers Kevin   also on 0272497326 but text is best


try xubunru


Re: Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-25 Thread Andrew Sands
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:56:31 Nick Rout wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Linux on Back2Go li...@back2go.co.nz 
wrote:
  Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use
  machine.
  I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most
  bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe
  a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and
  monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it,
  Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few
  days too if that helps, cheers Kevin   also on 0272497326 but text is
  best

 try xubunru

or even xubuntu??


Re: Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-25 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Andrew Sands sand...@clear.net.nz wrote:

 try xubunru

 or even xubuntu??


yeah sorry


Re: Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Monday 26 January 2009 11:37:12 Payne, Owen wrote:
 You could try a cutdown version or spin yourself a distro with only the
 things that you need on it

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on Back2Go [mailto:li...@back2go.co.nz]
 Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 11:36 am
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Distro for a single use machine

 Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use
 machine.
 I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most
 bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe
 a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and
 monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it,
 Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few
 days too if that helps, cheers Kevin   also on 0272497326 but text is
 best.
How much Disc and RAM have you got available?

These days Linux needs a bit more RAM than was usual on 10 year old machines, 
but it will run very happily off an eight Gig disk.


Consider Damn Small Linux, or Puppy Linux, or indeed spinning your own.

If the latter, I'd think about starting from  one of the Gentoo stages.
Before anybody jumps down my throat, remember that there are Gentoo binary 
packages for most of the system, and as he only wants two apps., they can be 
installed directly off a cd, or a binary repository. 
 
Consider AbiWord for the word processor.

-- 
With Sincerity,
Christopher Sawtell


Re: Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-25 Thread goldedge

Have you checked out puppy linux?
works great on a usb stick and older hardware?
Regards
Michael

Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use 
machine.
I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most 
bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe 
a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and 
monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it,
Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few 
days too if that helps, cheers Kevin   also on 0272497326 but text is best






RE: Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-25 Thread Payne, Owen
 Yes but on a machine that old, compiling a gentoo install even with a
minimal package installation will take the best part of 2 or 3 days.
Safer bet is something like puppy or dsl or one of the others that
abound. 

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:csawt...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 2:55 pm
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Distro for a single use machine

On Monday 26 January 2009 11:37:12 Payne, Owen wrote:
 You could try a cutdown version or spin yourself a distro with only 
 the things that you need on it

 -Original Message-
 From: Linux on Back2Go [mailto:li...@back2go.co.nz]
 Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 11:36 am
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Distro for a single use machine

 Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single 
 use machine.
 I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, 
 most bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS 
 and maybe a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, 
 mouse and monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS 
 things with it, Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be
in Chch next few
 days too if that helps, cheers Kevin   also on 0272497326 but text is
 best.
How much Disc and RAM have you got available?

These days Linux needs a bit more RAM than was usual on 10 year old
machines, but it will run very happily off an eight Gig disk.


Consider Damn Small Linux, or Puppy Linux, or indeed spinning your own.

If the latter, I'd think about starting from  one of the Gentoo stages.
Before anybody jumps down my throat, remember that there are Gentoo
binary 
packages for most of the system, and as he only wants two apps., they
can be 
installed directly off a cd, or a binary repository. 
 
Consider AbiWord for the word processor.

-- 
With Sincerity,
Christopher Sawtell

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Re: Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-25 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Monday 26 January 2009 15:09:21 Payne, Owen wrote:
  Yes but on a machine that old, compiling a gentoo install even with a
 minimal package installation will take the best part of 2 or 3 days.

You didn't read the totallity of my posting!!!

 Safer bet is something like puppy or dsl or one of the others that
 abound.

 -Original Message-
 From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:csawt...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 2:55 pm
 To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
 Subject: Re: Distro for a single use machine

 On Monday 26 January 2009 11:37:12 Payne, Owen wrote:
  You could try a cutdown version or spin yourself a distro with only
  the things that you need on it
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Linux on Back2Go [mailto:li...@back2go.co.nz]
  Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 11:36 am
  To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
  Subject: Distro for a single use machine
 
  Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single
  use machine.
  I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network,
  most bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS
  and maybe a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard,
  mouse and monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS
  things with it, Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be

 in Chch next few

  days too if that helps, cheers Kevin   also on 0272497326 but text is
  best.

 How much Disc and RAM have you got available?

 These days Linux needs a bit more RAM than was usual on 10 year old
 machines, but it will run very happily off an eight Gig disk.


 Consider Damn Small Linux, or Puppy Linux, or indeed spinning your own.

 If the latter, I'd think about starting from  one of the Gentoo stages.
 Before anybody jumps down my throat, remember that there are Gentoo
 binary
 packages for most of the system, and as he only wants two apps., they
 can be
 installed directly off a cd, or a binary repository.

 Consider AbiWord for the word processor.

-- 
With Sincerity,
Christopher Sawtell


Re: Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-25 Thread Nick Rout
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Payne, Owen owen.pa...@ccc.govt.nz wrote:
  Yes but on a machine that old, compiling a gentoo install even with a
 minimal package installation will take the best part of 2 or 3 days.
 Safer bet is something like puppy or dsl or one of the others that
 abound.

why would you compile it on the target machine (even if you didn't use
the binary packages chris referred to).


Re: Distro for a single use machine

2009-01-25 Thread Craig Falconer
Just remember, brand ex-lease machines may be had for low hundreds. 
Sometimes its just not worth your time.


I used to do a lot with ex-lease through old work, but far less now. 
However I still have an account.  If anyone wants to band together for a 
bulk purchase please email crig...@criggie.dyndns.org off list.





Christopher Sawtell wrote, On 26/01/09 15:20:

On Monday 26 January 2009 15:09:21 Payne, Owen wrote:

 Yes but on a machine that old, compiling a gentoo install even with a
minimal package installation will take the best part of 2 or 3 days.


You didn't read the totallity of my posting!!!


Safer bet is something like puppy or dsl or one of the others that
abound.

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:csawt...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 2:55 pm
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: Distro for a single use machine

On Monday 26 January 2009 11:37:12 Payne, Owen wrote:

You could try a cutdown version or spin yourself a distro with only
the things that you need on it

-Original Message-
From: Linux on Back2Go [mailto:li...@back2go.co.nz]
Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 11:36 am
To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Distro for a single use machine

Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single
use machine.
I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network,
most bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS
and maybe a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard,
mouse and monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS
things with it, Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be

in Chch next few


days too if that helps, cheers Kevin   also on 0272497326 but text is
best.

How much Disc and RAM have you got available?

These days Linux needs a bit more RAM than was usual on 10 year old
machines, but it will run very happily off an eight Gig disk.


Consider Damn Small Linux, or Puppy Linux, or indeed spinning your own.

If the latter, I'd think about starting from  one of the Gentoo stages.
Before anybody jumps down my throat, remember that there are Gentoo
binary
packages for most of the system, and as he only wants two apps., they
can be
installed directly off a cd, or a binary repository.

Consider AbiWord for the word processor.





--
Craig Falconer