Re: Distro for a single use machine
I have looked a bit, between out in the sun chores, thanks for suggestions- I had a laptop running Ubuntu for this plan but the power in socket got broken because the techs for DSE who fixed it a year or more ago under warranty didn't put it back together properly Bought a ext case for its HD but it appears to be a Hitachi that has a different connection from anything else on the planet. I use a EEE mostly for day to day life and have thought of buying one- install GOS and Gramps but I don't think they are robust enough to survive being lent. Old Mandrake or Debian of the day with Gramps of that day in this IBM looks an option, it is small enough to carry the box, but robust in that it needs to be set up on the peoples existing screen, key pad and mouse with adapter. But Damn Small Linux or Puppy, look good on the net, read a page by some dude who put GRAMPS on a Puppy but I did not understand what he was on about nor could T figure if it ran OK or was near impossible or what??? Are there any / many GRAMPS users in the group, it is one of those things I do full on for a few weeks a year and then forget, and I can see a website is my next port of call.
Re: Distro for a single use machine
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Linux on Back2Go li...@back2go.co.nz wrote: I have looked a bit, between out in the sun chores, thanks for suggestions- I had a laptop running Ubuntu for this plan but the power in socket got broken because the techs for DSE who fixed it a year or more ago under warranty didn't put it back together properly Bought a ext case for its HD but it appears to be a Hitachi that has a different connection from anything else on the planet. I use a EEE mostly for day to day life and have thought of buying one- install GOS and Gramps but I don't think they are robust enough to survive being lent. Old Mandrake or Debian of the day with Gramps of that day in this IBM looks an option, it is small enough to carry the box, but robust in that it needs to be set up on the peoples existing screen, key pad and mouse with adapter. But Damn Small Linux or Puppy, look good on the net, read a page by some dude who put GRAMPS on a Puppy but I did not understand what he was on about nor could T figure if it ran OK or was near impossible or what??? Are there any / many GRAMPS users in the group, it is one of those things I do full on for a few weeks a year and then forget, and I can see a website is my next port of call. I believe Barry is interested in genealogy and may use gramps. I played with it a while ago, but an earlier version. There appear to have been significant changes in architecture, including a move from the data being in a large xml file to using berkley DB (which should get better performance with large data collections). The best way to try it is to suck it and see. May I suggest: 1. do a minimal text based server install of ubuntu. 2. do aptitude install gramps abiword aptitude will pull in all dependencies including X and gnome libraries. This should give you the most minimal install. Then see how it works. If it doesn't work well, consider a newer|faster|higher ram machine. You will have lost nothing except your own time.
Distro for a single use machine
Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use machine. I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it, Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few days too if that helps, cheers Kevin also on 0272497326 but text is best
RE: Distro for a single use machine
You could try a cutdown version or spin yourself a distro with only the things that you need on it -Original Message- From: Linux on Back2Go [mailto:li...@back2go.co.nz] Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 11:36 am To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Distro for a single use machine Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use machine. I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it, Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few days too if that helps, cheers Kevin also on 0272497326 but text is best ** This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the sender and delete. Christchurch City Council http://www.ccc.govt.nz **
Re: Distro for a single use machine
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Linux on Back2Go li...@back2go.co.nz wrote: Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use machine. I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it, Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few days too if that helps, cheers Kevin also on 0272497326 but text is best try xubunru
Re: Distro for a single use machine
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:56:31 Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Linux on Back2Go li...@back2go.co.nz wrote: Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use machine. I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it, Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few days too if that helps, cheers Kevin also on 0272497326 but text is best try xubunru or even xubuntu??
Re: Distro for a single use machine
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Andrew Sands sand...@clear.net.nz wrote: try xubunru or even xubuntu?? yeah sorry
Re: Distro for a single use machine
On Monday 26 January 2009 11:37:12 Payne, Owen wrote: You could try a cutdown version or spin yourself a distro with only the things that you need on it -Original Message- From: Linux on Back2Go [mailto:li...@back2go.co.nz] Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 11:36 am To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Distro for a single use machine Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use machine. I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it, Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few days too if that helps, cheers Kevin also on 0272497326 but text is best. How much Disc and RAM have you got available? These days Linux needs a bit more RAM than was usual on 10 year old machines, but it will run very happily off an eight Gig disk. Consider Damn Small Linux, or Puppy Linux, or indeed spinning your own. If the latter, I'd think about starting from one of the Gentoo stages. Before anybody jumps down my throat, remember that there are Gentoo binary packages for most of the system, and as he only wants two apps., they can be installed directly off a cd, or a binary repository. Consider AbiWord for the word processor. -- With Sincerity, Christopher Sawtell
Re: Distro for a single use machine
Have you checked out puppy linux? works great on a usb stick and older hardware? Regards Michael Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use machine. I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it, Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few days too if that helps, cheers Kevin also on 0272497326 but text is best
RE: Distro for a single use machine
Yes but on a machine that old, compiling a gentoo install even with a minimal package installation will take the best part of 2 or 3 days. Safer bet is something like puppy or dsl or one of the others that abound. -Original Message- From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:csawt...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 2:55 pm To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Distro for a single use machine On Monday 26 January 2009 11:37:12 Payne, Owen wrote: You could try a cutdown version or spin yourself a distro with only the things that you need on it -Original Message- From: Linux on Back2Go [mailto:li...@back2go.co.nz] Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 11:36 am To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Distro for a single use machine Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use machine. I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it, Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few days too if that helps, cheers Kevin also on 0272497326 but text is best. How much Disc and RAM have you got available? These days Linux needs a bit more RAM than was usual on 10 year old machines, but it will run very happily off an eight Gig disk. Consider Damn Small Linux, or Puppy Linux, or indeed spinning your own. If the latter, I'd think about starting from one of the Gentoo stages. Before anybody jumps down my throat, remember that there are Gentoo binary packages for most of the system, and as he only wants two apps., they can be installed directly off a cd, or a binary repository. Consider AbiWord for the word processor. -- With Sincerity, Christopher Sawtell ** This electronic email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. The views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the Christchurch City Council. If you are not the correct recipient of this email please advise the sender and delete. Christchurch City Council http://www.ccc.govt.nz **
Re: Distro for a single use machine
On Monday 26 January 2009 15:09:21 Payne, Owen wrote: Yes but on a machine that old, compiling a gentoo install even with a minimal package installation will take the best part of 2 or 3 days. You didn't read the totallity of my posting!!! Safer bet is something like puppy or dsl or one of the others that abound. -Original Message- From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:csawt...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 2:55 pm To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Distro for a single use machine On Monday 26 January 2009 11:37:12 Payne, Owen wrote: You could try a cutdown version or spin yourself a distro with only the things that you need on it -Original Message- From: Linux on Back2Go [mailto:li...@back2go.co.nz] Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 11:36 am To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Distro for a single use machine Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use machine. I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it, Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few days too if that helps, cheers Kevin also on 0272497326 but text is best. How much Disc and RAM have you got available? These days Linux needs a bit more RAM than was usual on 10 year old machines, but it will run very happily off an eight Gig disk. Consider Damn Small Linux, or Puppy Linux, or indeed spinning your own. If the latter, I'd think about starting from one of the Gentoo stages. Before anybody jumps down my throat, remember that there are Gentoo binary packages for most of the system, and as he only wants two apps., they can be installed directly off a cd, or a binary repository. Consider AbiWord for the word processor. -- With Sincerity, Christopher Sawtell
Re: Distro for a single use machine
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Payne, Owen owen.pa...@ccc.govt.nz wrote: Yes but on a machine that old, compiling a gentoo install even with a minimal package installation will take the best part of 2 or 3 days. Safer bet is something like puppy or dsl or one of the others that abound. why would you compile it on the target machine (even if you didn't use the binary packages chris referred to).
Re: Distro for a single use machine
Just remember, brand ex-lease machines may be had for low hundreds. Sometimes its just not worth your time. I used to do a lot with ex-lease through old work, but far less now. However I still have an account. If anyone wants to band together for a bulk purchase please email crig...@criggie.dyndns.org off list. Christopher Sawtell wrote, On 26/01/09 15:20: On Monday 26 January 2009 15:09:21 Payne, Owen wrote: Yes but on a machine that old, compiling a gentoo install even with a minimal package installation will take the best part of 2 or 3 days. You didn't read the totallity of my posting!!! Safer bet is something like puppy or dsl or one of the others that abound. -Original Message- From: Christopher Sawtell [mailto:csawt...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 2:55 pm To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: Distro for a single use machine On Monday 26 January 2009 11:37:12 Payne, Owen wrote: You could try a cutdown version or spin yourself a distro with only the things that you need on it -Original Message- From: Linux on Back2Go [mailto:li...@back2go.co.nz] Sent: Monday, 26 January 2009 11:36 am To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Distro for a single use machine Hi I was wondering if any recommendations for a Distro for a single use machine. I have an slimline IBM that was running 98 something on a network, most bullet proof thing we ever had. I was wanting it to run GRAMPS and maybe a very thin wordprocessor and nothing else but a keyboard, mouse and monitor. So I can hand it around the family to do GRAMPS things with it, Any suggestions, where to find Distro etc, I will be in Chch next few days too if that helps, cheers Kevin also on 0272497326 but text is best. How much Disc and RAM have you got available? These days Linux needs a bit more RAM than was usual on 10 year old machines, but it will run very happily off an eight Gig disk. Consider Damn Small Linux, or Puppy Linux, or indeed spinning your own. If the latter, I'd think about starting from one of the Gentoo stages. Before anybody jumps down my throat, remember that there are Gentoo binary packages for most of the system, and as he only wants two apps., they can be installed directly off a cd, or a binary repository. Consider AbiWord for the word processor. -- Craig Falconer