Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers Indeed. Also better check the settings on that wayback machine of yours. Try more like the 1890s. The all mechanical versions, sure. By the 1930s more of them ran that way. Besides, my dad, and my grandfather both were running a shop which used Intertype machines. So, I do know enough about them. So we agree on almost everything here. Also, I am inclined to lean more in your direction regarding the PS output devices on Linux. And my father did work with both of those guys, as I said. In three different places, at different phases in his career. For myself, I prefer Times Roman, for all of my work, except when it is necessary to use a special symbol, like those dingbats. Say, which proprietary page description language from Linotype are you referring to? I ask that, because this is what I remember, Cora ran inside the L500 for example. And this was the step sequence: You sent your output from, say a Mac, running Quark, into a RIP, who then translated into Cora for the L500. Come to think of it, the same hare brained process was used for sending output from that midrange based system, as well. And yes, I agree, on somebody like that L500, you definitely need to use fonts, that look better at that level of resolution. Which explains why it took forever to get some fonts cut for the family. ------------------- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------ "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi "Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )
> -----Original Message----- > From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 6:27 PM > To: 'Gregg C Levine'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: OT (somewhat) - ps2pdf tool > > > Basically you are very correct David in your > > statements. Except on one. The Linotype machines, L300, and L500, and > > their relatives, and descendants, are actually output devices, > > Correct. > > > and > > predate Linux and actual desktop publishing by about three years. That > > from having worked with one, on a midrange based system. > > Umm, this is personal experience talking. Sherman, set up the Wayback > Machine....8-) > > The Linotype brand is much older than that, having been created in the > late 1930s as a slug casting system for newsprint and professional press > job set up that cast molten lead into full lines of type as lead "slugs" > (each representing a line of text, and thus the name "line-o-type") that > were fitted into a page frame and used in offset and pressure-backed > printing presses. The Linotype (note the missing e) PostScript front > ends were released 8 months following the public release of Adobe > PostScript version 1, replacing an earlier proprietary Linotype page > description language and competing with the Xerox Courier network > printing protocol. > > The major reason I put the distinction in my note is that Linotype > devices (and other professional presses) generally operate at 2400 dpi > resolution (about 4 times the resolution of the typical Canon-based > desktop laser printer) and bitmaps for 600 dpi printers look LOUSY on > that type of device. The stroke-based character font definitions are > interpreted by the PostScript interpreter in the press device, and thus > are rendered at full device resolution, producing significantly better > output. > > I've used the actual lead-slug-producing kind. They're fun. Loud, clanky > machinery, a bazillion motors moving rods and gears, molten metal, plus > cryptic commands and having to type like you're raising a ten pound > weight with your fingers all in one lovely device. It's a device that > only an engineer could love, and it's a beauty in a gross > electro-mechanical sense... > > -- db > >
