Ha! How does one access that thing? Keep in mind that I barely know how
to
exit emacs ;)
M-x doctor for the Emacs psychiatrist.
C-x C-c to exit GNU Emacs.
True. Mrugesh, why do you want to exit emacs ? :-)
After you are done with a buffer do C-x k
It will ask you if you want to kill that
*sigh* there are few pieces of text that can touch people in today's world.
This is one of them.
Check Out :
http://dir.salon.com/story/tech/feature/1999/11/30/lions/index.html
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Yes, but you'll need to leave CDs, USB Drives and other such things in
the reception.. (i would recommend carrying only required things). There
are other restrictions that are applicable to the datacenter but not to
the conference room (like camera phones etc..)
i'm in as well.
Regards,
-
that all software made by/paid by govt has to go into public domain
subject to national security contraints
Ahh... that was the line ``subject to national security contraints. Thanks.
Yes, that clarifies it all.
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the national security caveat is also part of the rules
Meaning what ?
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We need a person who is interested in Storage. Distributed file
systems, databases, flat files - whatever. ;) This is a longish
project. We need to devise and implement a flexible storage solution
for large collection of arbitrary data units. The exact solution may not
be open sourced but any
linux does not write to the ntfs partition unless it was fscking.
i think there is limited NTFS write support. i can edit an existing ASCII
file on an NTFS partition and save the changes. However i obviously can't
copy or move files into the NTFS partition.
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Mohan S N
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Nice signature :-)
By the way is it your creation or something from J.R.R.Tolkien. i remember a
good one ``It is unwise to rule out a dragon from the picture.
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better practice GNU/Linux or the boys in green will get at you
:-) Personally i prefer Blue.
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good+php - oxymoron
Can you explain why?
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Which Jail..
i think Arthur Road.
Is killing necessary ;-)
i'm not starting a flame war on this.
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I don't know about AIDS but the pharma companies are sitting on patents
that make life saving drugs very expensive. Instead of funding
organizations to raise money to buy these over charged drugs, why don't
the biggies donate money to buy the patents and set them free for
mankind (and womankind).
One point come to my mind. If software was not closed and expensive but
libre and free, would it help in promoting medical and medicinal
knowledge faster and be a better alternative to donating money for
buying expensive medicine. It would spread IT faster thus help in faster
delivery of science
Yeah, all I was saying is that I'd never heard VP praise Gates in the
same way that he praises Jobs. Gates has done far more for the world
than Jobs has.
Do you call Re-defining the term ``good design, and recognizing GUI where
others were blind as small achievements?
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is always going to be a priority with Apple. Moreover kindly READ
quotes
before jumping to conclusions whether X has done homework or not.
I asked you to read up outside what jobs had said - which you still
have not done
i did mention:
quote
i'm well aware that what's best for business is
Ever heard of Pablo Escobar?
which foundation does he fund - what does it do?
He(before being hunted down) financed everything for his home town of
Mendilin. Also made the to the top ten richest people for a while at one
time was Colombia's largest exporter, i don't have to tell you what was
Of course, he didn't push people into the pits. They chose to descend
themselves for whatever reason.
Does a school child in 4th or 5th standard choose to be taught M$ windoze or
is he taught that because a certain company and a certain minister and/or
secretary and/or whatever made a ``deal.
Does a school child in 4th or 5th standard choose to be taught M$
windoze or is he taught that because a certain company and a certain
That's irrelevant. We all learnt something or the other in school, and
went on to do whatever we wanted. My schooling predated windows by many
years, but it
that is beside the point. You made a statement that there are drug
lords who run charitable foundations. Either substantiate or withdraw
visit :
http://www.clas.berkeley.edu:7001/Events/fall2002/09-26-02-journalists/sheridan1.html
If you are thinking of questioning the source of the article,
One is doing business and promoting its product. Quite natural. You'd
do the same. It doesn't matter if you think that your product confirms to
morality or whatever.
Ethics MUST be exercised.
No one's ever wrong. POV.
then why are you still mailing? In fact then, why discuss anything at
then python is for you. You dont need to be taught python as it can
be learnt in half a day. if you are a newbie to programming, download
'how to think like a computer scientist' and go through it. Otherwise
check out DiveIntoPython.
Very True, in fact while you are at it also check out
you have a heart of stone
perhaps, but those ``are my beliefs on the matter.
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dont see anything about a drug lord funding a charitable foundation
in the article
:o
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Dear Friends, Linuxers and Music Lovers,
Apple CEO Steve
Jobs has issued and interesting public statement on DRM. In the statement
his wholeheartedly agrees that DRM has NOT worked and is NOT the solution
for curbing ``illegal music and
dream on - he was for DRM when he had a virtual monopoly, now he is
losing his monopoly so he has become anti. Dig deeper and you will see.
Whatever be the reason, the fact that he admit's DRM has not lived up to its
promise, and the fact that it has failed IS significant. In fact its an
Hi all,
i've finished downloading all 3 Debain Etch DVD iso images for i386.
These are the full install DVD's. i have also written 2 sets of them on
DVD's. One set is going to be passed to HBCSE so that more people can make
copies, i spoke to Anurag about the same. The other is with me,
Either way, the anti-DRM campaign continues.
and if you want to be part of it, dont quote steve jobs
i don't see how the two are related? If Jobs said something which was even a
slight indication of him criticizing DRM(for whatever reason) its a victory
for us. So what if i decide to quote
How about creating a repo of likes at HBCSE/IIT or someplace. So when
one of us finishes downloading a cd. He can deposit a copy at the said
place. That way if someone wants a copy they can get in touch with
HBCSE/IIT
with blanks and get it burnt. I am more then willing to send all the cds
I am sure you must be aware of the issue that caused the
release candidate rc1 of the Etch installer to stop working (it only
had a release key that expired, the new release key is only present,
at the time of writing, on the daily releases). So please test the
dvd's to ensure that they
that poor guy
:O
was trying to make a point, now he is terrified of shaving ;-)
:O
Wait a sec! Will I get flamed for wasting the bandwidth?
Only in a universe where the laws of logic were framed by George W. Bush :-)
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But who (Among Mrugesh, Gaurav and I) gets the first
copy (or who vists HBCSE to collect it from
Prasanta?)
i believe the scheduling algorithm in this case is first come first serve
:-)
If you live somewhere around Juhu, just mail me off the list and i can pass
them to you whenever mutually
Steve Allman (Sendmail)
Err... its Eric Allman everyone.
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I have been facing this problem for the last couple of days. I have 2
remote
Linux Servers located at Mumbai and chennai. I need to copy files to my
other machine in the night.
Generate keys and write a GNU expect script which you put in cron then enjoy
a good night's sleep ;-)
Problem is
Check this out :
http://xkcd.com/c224.html
Oh yeah, keep your mouse pointer on the image for a few seconds and see the
caption.
:-)
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i had installed kubuntu recently n dn ubuntu too,
Err... does that mean ``and downloaded ubuntu too ?
in
both, i couldnt use the internet. i downloaded the
sify installer for linux, dn did as it was mentioned
Err... does that mean ``downloaded it as was mentioned ?
in the manual/readme
For free download of OpenLX :
http://www.openlx.com/download.html
For free download of Debian GNU/Linux :
http://www.debian.org/CD/
For Debian Freedom info :
http://www.debian.org/intro/free
For the Debian Social contract :
http://www.debian.org/social_contract
For Debian Free Software
On 2/11/07, Shiv Kumar - 9820320927 (cell) 91-22-28906693
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you pioneered a way to filter SPAM SMS's on your cellphone? If yes
PLEASE release it as GPL :-)
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Openssl is validated by NIST which makes it fit for use by the US
govt.
http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/02/08/1935232
strange that binary blobs can be certified easily while certifying
source code is a problem.
True. But then again its not so strange as when you have multi billion
I can not install xpdf as it's not in the default ubuntu repository.
Are you joking?
can you post your sources.list
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How is it that native Aqua app's don't launch X11/Xterm before running,
and
GNU/Linux based X11 apps which have been ported do ?
:)
That's just a matter of configuration. You can change that behavior in
the .xinitrc. For more details you can read a recent blog post [1] I
made about how to
Hi Dinesh!
here are the relevant lines
deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
deb http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
deb-src http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
I have a windows printer shared on one machine and I can see that
shared printer on other windows machines and can also share the
printer.
what is the general way of accessing this shared printer over the
network on gnome desktops. and is there any thing specific I can do
in fedora core 6 to
I have been using this one since a few months without any
issues at all. Its been tested in different places in this country
i.e. Mumbai, Bangalore, Delhi, Faridabad, Chennai, Panvel. We have
been using wvdial ofcourse.
Hmm... i kind of expected you say kppp ;-)
Regards,
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I am not sure but I get a strange feeling of radiation when using the
modem
spooky :o
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What do you mean by
customized for Aqua?
How is it that native Aqua app's don't launch X11/Xterm before running, and
GNU/Linux based X11 apps which have been ported do ?
Because they improve your productivity and generally make things much
easier for you, as a developer. I'm not kidding;
i've generally found, that if one buying a Mac and one does not want to
use
Mac OS X(of which some components of the GUI(Aqua) are under non free
licenses), either fry the machine and put a GNU/Linux distribution on it
or
don't use Aqua, install a Free GUI and the other Free app's with along
Why don't you stick to the OS of your preference/comfort/liking.. all
current distributions of linux are good enough for most purposes (yes
even gentoo!!)
Why do i have a eerie feeling that a ``certain gentoo user is not going to
take kindly to this :-)
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i've generally found, that if one buying a Mac and one does not want to
use
Mac OS X(of which some components of the GUI(Aqua) are under non free
licenses), either fry the machine and put a GNU/Linux distribution on it
or
don't use Aqua, install a Free GUI and the other Free app's with along
Why do i have a eerie feeling that a ``certain gentoo user is not going
to
take kindly to this :-)
oh well, then consider it humor..
i do :-) and looks like so does he :-)
i've used gentoo and quite liked the
concept. Just that rpms were more uniform and manageable after years of
GCC= gcc
That was mainly because the speakers did not let us know whether they
would require a computer beforehand. It was only when they started to
walk towards the microphone would they let their desires be known. Add
to that the confusion when someone would want to give a presentation
about Free
nokia 6600 (i think - it also has python)
Yeah!!! i'll remember that when i plan on geting a new phone :-)
Thanks!!!
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how much they cost at this point of time is irrelevant. And no point
asking how much will they cost when they come up for renewal as no
one knows.
Interesting.
There seems to be a potential for the agency hiring out domains to be
effectively monopolise a given successful domain. i hire out a
Dangerous. Its as if the the guys controlling the domain can
effectively
cyber squat his own customer. Has anyone faced such a situaltion?
yes, and went through hell un-squatting him. Finally had to pay him
off (could have gone to court but the delay would have killed me)
Yikes! NOT a good
there is a company called reduff or something.
will remember that, thanks.
A friend booked a
domain name through them. I was supposed to set up the site - so she
went to the admin panel and tried to point the domain to my
nameservers. The menu option was there, it said 'done', but the
domain
Please suggest links or documents on the growth of the use of GNU-Linux
systems and FLOSS. I want statistics and good overview too.
Hmmm, this might be tough. Why don't you do some legwork instead (since
Google isn't being good for you)?
Working with a magazine like PC Quest/Chip/LFY should
For those who want to know the whole story, visit
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.delhi/ and look for the
messages under the similar title.
Thanks for the link Rony :-)
It was nice to see that the New Delhi/Delhi LUG/GLUG ;-) members did an
unofficial boycott of the event
how do you define 'remote part of India'? There *is* civilisation
outside the metros - in fact one wonders whether there is
civilisation *inside* the metros
good one :-)
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http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms742219.aspx
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms741561.aspx
i never thought i would see the day when a link with a microsoft.com domain
would be posted for help.
*SIGH*
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We at NetMagic Solutions Pvt. Ltd. (a leading data center based out of
Goregaon, Mumbai) have a requirement for a Level 2 Linux Administrators
/ Engineers for our 24x7 Network Operations Center. Basic but critical
requirements being decent communication, excellent attitude towards work
and
first of all my apologies to all,for asking a question that may be very
silly,but i am not ashamed to tell that i duuno the concept about this...
:-(,so i am ready to show my ignorance and not become ignorant my whole
life...anyway following is the question,and please can some one define it
or
I dont care about the gyan i will get for my 200 bucks. What i do care
about
is not to pay 200 bucks to attend my glug-bom meet. It just dosnt seem
right
to me. I dont mind paying the money to attend the conf though.
Interesting statement.
Only since the glug-bom meet and the conference are
A FOSS event should ideally have no criteria for participation. The F
stands for free=freedom after all.
True
Conversely, is there any way a Linux company can participate in an
Microsoft promoting event and talk about the virtues of Linux?
Let us find out by proposing such a
But acccording to a recent mail,students are sponsored by some companies
and they don't have to pay the 200/- bucksdoes that include engg
students?
Yes it most certainly does. Engineering(which ever University) is an
official discipline and anyone studying can very much be called and
Please save the 200 Rs for the time being, when the ilug-bom domains come
for
renewal, do donate generously towards domain renewal fees.
i'm in. i'll pass on my share to you when we meet next. Anyway, if we
require some cash for the domain renewal(or even other list activity), it
would be a
by the way what is the time slot for the meet?
Good question. What IS the time slot for the meet?
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Then I had an idea and tried removing the RAM.
Can you check if you have any oxide coating on your RAM contacts? If yes
just take an eraser and ``rub it out nicely.
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My colleague and I bought a pack of 100 MosherBaer black and red printed
CDRs and shared 50-50. However while burning 2 CDs in Gnome I had
problems. In K3B on the lappy, it gave an error that 20x is not
supported by the media or by the drive, so it automatically scaled down
to 14 or 16x. However
Are both drives the same?. I can burn moserbaer 52x cds at 52x on a
Sony DVD and 32x on a LG cd writer which is 32x capable. Sarge R4,
k3b0.11.20
My desktop has a Samsung DVD+R writer and my laptop has a DVD ROM(a compaq
with a generic HL-DT-ST -RW /DVD GCC -4244N).
k3b v0.2.17
Regards,
-
My laptop dvd combo (Quanta SBW-242b) was not reading. I found the
plastic part with 3 tiny springs damaged and hence not centering the
cd properly. Had to replace the drive, cause that part is not likely
to be available.
Yikes!
On the same subject, for which CD/DVD drives does one get proper
http://packages.qa.debian.org/liby/libyahoo2.html
Please report the issue on Debian BTS. Hope that I will not be flamed
for this {OT}.
you will be flamed for labelling it OT when it is not
True :-)
Thanks Kartik :-)
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i understand that keeping a conference entry gratis is rarely the
norm, but
it would be great if all the
GLUG/ILUG BOM members can get gratis entry :-)
200 bucks is going to bankrupt someone?
No it is not.
i mearly suggested it as a gesture of good will for all of us on the
i think he labelled it OT because he knows that OT is where the
action is. I propose that we ban all guys who label non-OT stuff as
OT for the sole purpose of getting attention.
Why ban when we can flame ;-) i think that will get even MORE attention.
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But Apple has never been a big FOSS supporter. They have usually been
more closed than Microsoft.
i was referring to U.C Berkeley culture, which was one of Freedom and
Rebellion two qualities which i really admire. Jobs and Wozniak came from
that culture and so did many others in the initial
As a convener of the conference, I can assure you that the list members
will
enjoy the full day. We do have very eminent speakers, the schedule is now
updated with some more details:
http://zope.hbcse.tifr.res.in:9673/SELF/conf_schedule.. TIFR and HBCSE
are
already spending lots of resources,
it moved to http://debian-multimedia.org/ longtime back,
(from ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/)
Didn't know that, thanks for the info :-)
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The 200 bucks is for free DVD, tea, snacks and lunch.
Yes i know i DID read the mail :-)
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And you gotta pay 200/- bucks to get in.
i understand that keeping a conference entry gratis is rarely the norm, but
it would be great if all the
GLUG/ILUG BOM members can get gratis entry :-)
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I googled for an alternative solution but couldn't find anything useful.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
AFAIK Mplayer is probably the best (and only?) multimedia player on
console. You don't need to compile from source. You can search and
download .deb. apt-get.org is one source.
Hehehe...you're kidding right? Linux and Tanenbaum just DONT mix!
Hahaha... I hope you get the irony ;)
i know the irony and the world famous flame war :-)
For a student they are the PERFECT mix, Operating System theory + a LIVE
production kernel(which is also VERY well documented) to play
Talking about tech books, though am not too well read and not a
programmer 'let us c' was (and prolly still is) a great book, other
being 'How to Think Like a Computer Scientist - Learning with python',
available under GFDL.
That is a REAL classic :-)
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A bit surprising to know that you (yes, vihan),
Meaning what?
probably started with Let Us C, nevertheless, a good
book. (I did too, but that was an old edition, and I
haven't read it completely).
i started life with an XT(in school) and 486 DX 2(at home) with
Its one of the good books that I have seen till date.
Ofcourse TAoCP is ofcourse *the book*, no doubts about it.
Oh yes, if we are talking about books on programming, that/those one(s)
ought to be right on top.
( hopefully one day I can read all of it and understand, by then rest
However i have to make one statement here. i LOVE Apple. Surprised?
i'm not ashamed to admit it. Its their creativity and artistic
brilliance which is UNPARALLELED.
Their engineering skill is brillant too. Open any Mac and see. It's
arranged like an orchestra. The pc otoh is like a garbage
True. i hope Apple is listening :-D
Its only a matter of time that other companies will fall in line =P With
the hype about security, people will want to see the source code that
runs their machines, that stores their sensitive information! =P
With Apple its the Aqua GUI interface(and a
PS: Let the pissing competition for this thread begin.. i get to choose
(unless Frederick thinks otherwise) who can piss the highest and declare
a winner..
Fred has given out information he thought would benefit some people, and you
have given out information that you thought would benefit
IMO RH is sitting very close to the fence and Novell with the likes of
lindows (or whatever it's called) have crossed over to the
darkside.And it does not matter what brain dead expalnations the
distro makers give. The licence says it all.
Contrast the above with this
Theres never an end of story on this list,,
True. But sometimes you JUST get sick of a worthless topic. The only
question is the definition of worthless varies from person to person.
someone lately dug up a four
month old thread (see: would luv to work on Linux), your score is '1'
btw, i am
It wasn't at all funny that i could run only ONE program at a time on a
386DX! X( As I said HORRIBLE memories
It was the simplest O.S to start learning things with. Give me a PC XT with
DOS(Free DOS would do) and C loaded on it, and copy of Yashwant Kanetkar's
Let Us C i could set days and
You can try OpenSolaris too. Sun is going to release it under the GNU
GPLv3, so alongwith GNU/Linux and *BSD, it is another free operating
system.
Mind Blowing! Its an ``in your face for all of GPL v3's critics :-)
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I downloaded Debian Sarge and tried to install it. The installation went
fine.
But I think i missed to select the Desktop option during
installation. If I enter
startx command i encounter errors. I thought Xfree86 was not
installed. so I tried
'apt-get install x-windows-system'. I found this in
mtnl is not having unlimited schemes
Why so?
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snip
[17180032.82] hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error
}
[17180032.82] hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError },
LBAsect=23677870,sector=23677863
[17180032.82] ide: failed opcode was: unknown[17180032.82]
end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector
So OpenSolaris is dead and useless. JTD and Vihan do not bother
proving otherwise, because certain class of people will never listen.
i'm sure KG has a good reason for thinking so :-)
Anyway opinions may differ but mutual respect and discussion do exist.
Moreover the differences add to a more
Seems that most users of Debian are not handicapped with the lack of
an installer for X (or whatever).
True, i guess an ncurses interface does rock for newbies and pro's :-) In
fact at time it brings the good old DOS 6.0 memories back.
*sigh*
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Are u aware of the licensing - actually patent - issues. Any one
redistributing to you will be in violation of Novell's patent deal
with M$. M$ has the right to sue you and any other free-beer
downloaders and users of the distro.
Download at your own risk.
i guess we ought to start a switch
No, OpenSUSE has caused no harm. And its a community project.
OpenSuse has not, but Novell has :
quote
The Software is a modular operating system. Most of the components
are open source packages, developed independently, and accompanied by
separate license terms. Your license rights
my thesis is this: just because source is released under some
license, that does not make a project a foss project. Or rather a
true foss project. The criterion for a true foss project is *not* the
license chosen or the fact that the source is available, *but* the
development model followed. The
I hate M$, Reliance, and many other organisations and corporation
why?
i don't think there's any question about why hate M$ :-) i don't think
Reliance is any great shakes in terms in terms of either service or
promoting FOSS.
as far as ``many others go i'm sure there are quite a few and the
i don't think there's any question about why hate M$ :-) i don't think
Reliance is any great shakes in terms in terms of either service or
promoting FOSS.
From what i've heard from an ex-reliance employee is that they make a
good effort to ensure that linux users can easily use their
Will you hate Infosys/WIPRO/TCS?
i would hate them IF they forged alliances with companies who's primary
motive is market monopolization and control. That goes against the
principals of both FOSS, and a free market.
We are straying away from the topic
though ..
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