On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 1:23 pm, Rony Bill wrote:
Anyway thanks for the address. :)
welcome - if you want details on how to reach there, i can oblige
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On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 7:31 pm, Philip Tellis wrote:
Actually, you can't. lynx users belong to a very large class of
users. These include users of modern browsing devices including
handhelds and mobile phones, blind users and users using
assistive technology (and who can sue you for
On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 7:39 pm, Mitul Limbani wrote:
How bout you paying me INR 1000 and I shall install latest MySQL
for your server
i'll do postgres for 855
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On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 8:13 pm, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
You might think about why so many of the erstwhile frequent
posters on the list post so rarely today as well.
why is that so?
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On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 7:23 pm, Anurag wrote:
Sometime on Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 04:21:52PM +0530, Kenneth
Gonsalves said:
what about lynx users?
forget about them
Ignoring lynx users? I myself have been stuck in situations
wherein i had to get the system up in the mid of night and i had
hi
how do you mask email addresses in mailman archives as done for this
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On Wednesday 01 Feb 2006 12:44 pm, Philip Tellis wrote:
and full of outdated junk - just curious, those dropdown menus
can be done with css, would lynx be able to use that?
drop-down menus are implemented as unordered lists (think
semantically, a menu is just a list of options). css and
hi,
i have 10 websites on a particular server. Each site has its own
user and is housed on the user's home directory. Currently, to
maintain each site i ssh into it as that user and do the work. I
also have to have root ssh'd in one terminal for restarting apache
etc. This means keeping 11
On Tuesday 07 Feb 2006 12:07 pm, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
not everyone wants to learn about computers - or needs to learn
about computers. Most people just want to learn to *use*
computers, and most people learn that without much effort. An
elitist attitude towards linux and opensource is what
On Tuesday 07 Feb 2006 1:18 pm, Vinayak Hegde wrote:
No one said that on this list. All that has been said is you need
to make an effort to learn and this goes beyond computers. Linux
is not a black box. If Linux is a black box, it defeats the whole
purpose of Linux as it is supposed to help
On Tuesday 07 Feb 2006 3:36 pm, Philip Tellis wrote:
that 'i am good enough to use linux - not you'. For those who
just need a black box that just 'works' - linux should provide
it.
I think it's more like 'I am good enough to set up my own linux
box according to my needs - if you're not,
On Thursday 09 Feb 2006 11:50 am, JTD wrote:
Excuse the (late) top post.
late is excused - why should the top post be excused?
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On Thursday 09 Feb 2006 8:42 am, Abhishek Daga wrote:
--- Manish Kathuria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Abhishek Daga wrote:
Hello folks,
wondering if anyone has tried this and has worked for them?
Need someone from the outside (remote location) to access a
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here.
have been trimmed, namely this:
snip
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On Friday 10 Feb 2006 1:43 am, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
think people should notice the obvious difference in the attitude
of both the original poster, who's a newbie asking what may seem
like a stupid question to the experienced users, and these very
experienced users who are replying
OP is not
On Friday 10 Feb 2006 4:36 pm, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
Besides, its become the habit of this list to pick up a seemingly
unrelated and trivial point and create a huge (useless)
discussion over it.
why 'useless', if is obviously useful to those who are participating
in the discussion - not every
On Friday 10 Feb 2006 10:56 am, Vinayak Hegde wrote:
We have been through the discussion of splitting the list on the
basis various criteria twice. Both times the conclusions reached
were that it will be counterproductive. I searched through the
archives but could not find the thread. IF you
On Friday 10 Feb 2006 1:34 pm, Rony Bill wrote:
As a policy to control flames, we can set a limit to the number
of mails that indulge in flames, even per person and we can also
have a list of preset official
statements that only should be quoted as flames for every
specific rule break.
+1 -
On Friday 10 Feb 2006 7:29 pm, Rony Bill wrote:
If splitting starts, then it will also reflect on the lug meets.
We will be creating exclusive zones instead of being all
inclusive, a fundamental feature of FOSS vis a vis commercial
closed software.
who is talking about splitting? all you need
On Sunday 12 Feb 2006 1:09 am, आनंद (Anand M R) wrote:
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On Friday 10 February 2006 20:43, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
On Friday 10 February 2006 19:29, Rony Bill wrote:
2. If a member asks for a solution that requires him/her to
refer to the
On Sunday 12 Feb 2006 1:11 am, Jon Masters wrote:
Best thing is that they have a dialer for Linux :)
It's proprietary but friends of mine really like it, so it's
evidently addictive too :-)
+1 - must be nearly 10 years since i have installed prop software on
linux, i feel guilty - but then
On Monday 13 Feb 2006 8:58 pm, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
snip
RFTW? ;-)
it is STFW
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recently installed spamassassin. Am running spamd as root and have
configured it to work with postfix. I regularly put all the missed
spam into a folder and run sa-learn on it. Only thing is, it doesnt
seem to be learning. I have fed it over 500 mails so far - but
still no learning. I am
On 28-Jun-06, at 11:03 AM, ryan coelho wrote:
I have been wanting to configure cgi-bin with apache. I have done
it before and now I am having no luck.
I want to do this on Red Hat 9.
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script + I will
be reading the links sent by you guy
http://www.cgi101.com/book/
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On 30-Jun-06, at 10:29 PM, Rony wrote:
I am just curious to know, how do you rate the site
www.imetalindia.com?
how does one rate a static site?
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developer who built a website with no graphics, no flash - and horror
or horrors, no weather report either?
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write good markup. if he doesn't, he'll make mashed potatoes with
vangi bath.
in my opinion, it doesnt matter whether a static site is written well
or badly - it is only written once, so things like maintaining it
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the html/css follows
some standard or the other, but in terms of how simple it is to
update and maintain
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On 02-Jul-06, at 5:24 PM, Philip Tellis wrote:
the function of a table is ordered presentation of data. Data is
best ordered
more specifically, tabular data. Use tables only for tabular data
and for nothing else.
not even for forms - using css for them is a bore
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On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 11:52:30AM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 02-Jul-06, at 11:46 AM, Rony wrote:
:) I would rate a site (as a visitor) on its ease of opening up in
the browser
and the ease with which a visitor can navigate the site
, konq and safari - and then screw it up enough so
it doesnt look too bad on ie. Until i can afford to hire a html guy,
i am not worrying about standards.
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On 04-Jul-06, at 4:07 PM, Roshan wrote:
also with tables, you dont get ie problems
What does this mean ?
it means that even microsoft finds it difficult to screw up rendering
of tables - although they work on it ceaselessly
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convincing journalists that gimp, inkscape, scribus are the
'equivalent' of quark express, corel draw, adobe illustrator ...
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working and more importantly I cannot
get
out of bed. Doctors orders :(
And yet you typed this reply.
he make joke
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know what i am talking about)
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wont cut it. Incidently,
one foss tool, blender, beats all its proprietory rivals. And,
incidently, latex rocks, but there are very few phd students in the
print world ;-)
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it
for the time being and work to improve rather than try to sell
'political correctness'. We saw where political correctness led the
country in the second half of the last century.
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the article about
this. Proof reading the final prints of a company AR is such a
horrible pain that i thought it would be preferable to spend time
using scribus to automate the process. Which led to reading up on the
print stuff.
fair enough - i'll look at it again
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On 09-Jul-06, at 9:54 PM, Mitul Limbani wrote:
Mumbai Police is the second best worldwide,
who are the best?
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On 11-Jul-06, at 8:48 AM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
* Must possess strong computer ethics
what are computer ethics? avoid keyboard abuse? be kind to mouses?
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On 11-Jul-06, at 11:05 AM, Anurag wrote:
What are you talking about?
FYI, this message was posted by one of the list moderators only.
he thinks that every mail is screened by the moderators before it
comes to the list
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On 11-Jul-06, at 1:28 PM, Saswata Banerjee Associates wrote:
I remember having seen skype's linux client. Is anyone here using it ?
have used it - works out of the box
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On 14-Jul-06, at 12:59 PM, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
Have a look at this blog entry:
http://g33k.wordpress.com/2006/07/03/the-coffee-now-smells-better/
I saw that in August or so of last year. It runs on RH9, BTW.
do you mean that as a pro or a con?
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bom.org, please cancell my membership at the earliest.
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constitution.
Got the time and/or money to spare?
this is not about democracy - it is about stupidity. Some specific
sites were to be blocked (what good that would do no one knows) so
the isps responded by blocking en masse
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by terrorists. So the isps responded by blocking the whole site. Like
if they wanted osama.livejournal.com to be blocked, the isps
responding by blocking livejournal itself
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the
traffic.
what does this mean (not being sarcastic, really want to know)
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On 20-Jul-06, at 2:50 PM, Dinesh Joshi wrote:
On Thursday 20 July 2006 03:36, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
On 20-Jul-06, at 12:50 AM, Harsh Busa wrote:
saw on some TV channel that govt is refining the order to only
certain blogs of blogspot and parts of other sites.
which cant be done
why
On 22-Jul-06, at 1:39 AM, Steven Joseph wrote:
Alright ... please ignore my previous mail ... this info was what i
was
looking for ..
and for this gem you made us scroll down down down - conserve
bandwidth - trim your mails
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On 02-Aug-06, at 7:55 AM, Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray wrote:
Is there a GNU/Linux package that can draw graphs of values
dynamically generated by a program?
PIL
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On 03-Aug-06, at 12:48 PM, Philip Tellis wrote:
Since you _are_ a lawyer, I assumed this would expand to
Public Interest Litigation.
_was_ a lawyer - Python Imaging Library
You gave up your degree?
how does one do that?
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- the license was opensource and is
opensource. It has neither been revoked nor been suspended.
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start installing windows on
the low cost machines.
so we petition uncle bill on this?
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, Suse
which work out of the box - the only thing preventing them from
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On 04-Aug-06, at 10:15 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
On 8/4/06, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so we petition uncle bill on this?
Or would it be Manmohan Singh uncle (or his remote control, Sonia
Aunty)?
And speaking of petitions, do they really work at all?
fact
, and, believe you me, you
will be happier for not knowing
hint: try deutsch with an umlaut
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Ubuntu GNU/Linux or Redhat GNU/
Linux or
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a nickname -
all my chinese friends have nicknames and dont feel insulted when i
use the nick instead of the full name
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On 05-Aug-06, at 1:18 PM, Kartik Mistry wrote:
So how did you go about resolving his query ?
He is Uber Windows User and Developer!
then he cant be lazy - only ubergeeks can afford to be lazy
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leave it alone. Especially for the chosen few who use it as
their first OS, they lap it up
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On 05-Aug-06, at 9:56 PM, Devdas Bhagat wrote:
Here's an option: Why don't you setup and run that as a business?
After
all, you have the freedom to do that.
Devdas Bhagat
he *is* running a business - and I, for one, am a fan
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infected by such viruses is a menace to the community and deserves to
be booted. You dont blame the birds that get flu - you just cull them
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would that be?
that, if memory doesnt fail me is the broken utf-8, 5.8 thing that
sent me off to python ;-)
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the mistake ... fasten your seatbelt kiddo, the flames are
coming :)
Regards,
actually it is a good, relevant question. Who is RMS? A person well
known in the 20th century who has outlived his time
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was around 2002. And so far i havent read a single thing he
has written - although i have read almost everything ESR has written.
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i beg to differ - it will remain a failure in India at least until
people stopped sounding off and started writing code
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of India in
20th century.
in fact this country only started making real progress when the ideas
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amount of foss code *is* written for those platforms -
see the top 20 on sourceforge
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since i am guilty of all the steps except 8,9,10? and 13 - i qualify
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modifiable
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On 18-Aug-06, at 6:02 PM, Aparna Appaiah wrote:
Sorry for not labelling the mail OT!!
it is not OT
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On 21-Aug-06, at 4:22 PM, Sanket Medhi wrote:
Himachi? O.o
Never heard of it.
this is a candidate for the the most useless post of the year. (Hamachi)
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ignored it and i had to redo it allowing the default partitioning
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On 31-Aug-06, at 2:50 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay wrote:
Guess the above would be a good enough material for a response to
the column
why are you sending this twice to the list?
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On 31-Aug-06, at 5:01 PM, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
So if FOSS becomes THE mainstream way, the idea of *software product*
in the earlier sense (write once, sell many times) will die.
not if, when
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for this is that most people, including fanatical
supporters have never actualy *read* the GPL although they think they
have. There are even people who believe that the GPL cannot be
revoked once granted.
btw, i have now read the GPL
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this issue. Recent case jorg schillings cdrtools was relicenced only
under the CDDL so Debian has thrown out cdrtools and forked a gpld
version for further development.
could you give the case law.
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the copyright of the
patch is handed over to it. The idea of the GPL is to *subvert*
copyright so that noone in practice has copyright over the work. But
that only works if a sufficient number of people contribute code to
the work.
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to prevent further use of the code.
But the fact that it can be done is what scares the sh*t out of a lot
of people. So how to prevent this? Best way is to make sure lots of
people contribute code to the project (as i mentioned in another post
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gpl
No no u misunderstood. Not the gpl but revocation of copyright. There
are precedents on revocation of copyright.
who is talking about revocation of copyright? There is no such thing
anyway.
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for compensation. Good faith etc etc only
applies if you have paid for the license. And the GPL nowhere
promises that the license given is not revocable.
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a license can
be revoked (unless the license clause is violated).
there is no clause saying it can be revoked - by definition the
copyright holder can revoke the license unless
1. there is a clause saying it is irrevocable
2. the license has been paid for
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should be clear on what it means and not
BS people who have genuine doubts.
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On 08-Sep-06, at 2:40 PM, Rony wrote:
Mandriva 2006 and it is simply too good. Your neighbour should use
Mandrake 10.1.
Mandrake 10.0 for 96mb ram - X is a bit slow, but useable. 10.1 may
not install at all
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reasons for the
revocation.
he need not give reasons - notice is enough. But he has to file suit
to enforce it - i doubt he will. No one who has met eben moglen would
willingly take him on unless huge amount of $ is involved
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