Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Jerome Vernet
Le 26 févr. 06, à 07:54, macmoni a écrit : Hi Jerome, No, but it was easy for me to type that in. Of course you will disconnect the PIN 9 wire and the PIN 20 wire on the Sony Floppy Board by cutting it with a sharp knife Remove the PIN from the disk ? Yes Assuming that the red wire is '0'

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Guido Deiana
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:06:00 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote . > I take a picture: > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jerome.vernet/images/MP-F51Wb.jpg > > Please confirm that I only have to cut the track that go from PIN 9 > under cap C2 (*not* remove C2 !), and remove the RJ5 resistor ? > > I don't want

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Jerome Vernet
Guido Deiana a écrit : On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:06:00 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote Hi Jerome, just work on the other side of the circuit board. Use a solder and take the pin 9 and 20 out of the board. It's immediate and this way you can restore the connections anytime. It look hard to remove th

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Guido Deiana
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 11:28:07 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote > Guido Deiana a écrit : > > On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 10:06:00 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote > > > > > Hi Jerome, > > just work on the other side of the circuit board. Use a solder and take the > > pin 9 and > > 20 out of the board. It's immediat

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread macmoni
Yes, that's what I said. There's no simpler way to do so Greetings TOM Am 26.02.2006 um 11:28 schrieb Jerome Vernet: If macmomi confirm that I just have to cut the track from PIN 9 to RJ4 and PIN 20 to RJ5, i will do that, much more easy. The macplus from wich I take it is dead, so I can kil

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread macmoni
Hi Jerome, I take the first MP-F51W-03 I found on my desk, hoping it is working. I don't know if it's a 1,44 or 800k drive ;) That's a 800k Floppy-Drive I hope you understood the text correctly. You don't have to cut some connections on any Lisa-Board ONLY PIN 9 and PIN 20 from the connection

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Jerome Vernet
Hi, So do I... And, not working !!! First try, simply by cutting wires 9 and 20 on the ribbon (I have some spare !): the 800k disk eject imediatly the disk. So I remove the resistor (desolering) on PIN 20, and cut track on the board for PIN 9. Tested again, the drive still eject the disk

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread macmoni
Hi Jerome, if the drive ejects the disks always, whether a disc is inserted or not, then you didn't cut the PIN 9 and PIN 20, that's all. You do not need to have some parts soldered out, just cut the cable or the wire on the board of the floppy TOM from Bavaria Am 26.02.2006 um 18:05 schrie

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Jerome Vernet
Le 26 févr. 06, à 20:46, macmoni a écrit : Hi Jerome, if the drive ejects the disks always, whether a disc is inserted or not, then you didn't cut the PIN 9 and PIN 20, that's all. You do not need to have some parts soldered out, just cut the cable or the wire on the board of the floppy H

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Jerome Vernet
Le 26 févr. 06, à 20:57, Jerome Vernet a écrit : perhaps the drive is also dead, so I will retry with another one (without killing anything on the drive itself). Ok, I've just tested with another drive (F75W, 1,44). This time, with the ribbon cutted in 9 and 20, I have exactly the same be

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Guido Deiana
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:20:52 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote > I have two IO card, both tested with same behavior. I have in fact two > back plane with CPU, IO and mem, same thing :( :( > > It all for today, I will bring the Lisa back to my stock for a long > time... Hi Jerome, I've had the same pro

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Jerome Vernet
I have two IO card, both tested with same behavior. I have in fact two back plane with CPU, IO and mem, same thing :( :( Last thing: my Lisa show a D/A8 ROM. While i'm testing, i get one time an error '23', that is, no system disk. That was when boot from 'disk 2' in the menu. never able to

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Jerome Vernet
Le 26 févr. 06, à 21:31, Guido Deiana a écrit : On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:20:52 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote I have two IO card, both tested with same behavior. I have in fact two back plane with CPU, IO and mem, same thing :( :( It all for today, I will bring the Lisa back to my stock for a long

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Guido Deiana
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:33:22 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote > > > > I have two IO card, both tested with same behavior. I have in fact two > > back plane with CPU, IO and mem, same thing :( :( > > > Last thing: my Lisa show a D/A8 ROM. > > While i'm testing, i get one time an error '23', that is, no

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Guido Deiana
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:36:11 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote > Le 26 févr. 06, à 21:31, Guido Deiana a écrit : > > > Hi Jerome, > > I've had the same problems with the Lisa internal connectors oxided. > > The drive began to read for 1 second and after the floppy (tested > > working!) is ejected. > > T

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Jerome Vernet
Le 26 févr. 06, à 21:48, Guido Deiana a écrit : On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:33:22 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote I have two IO card, both tested with same behavior. I have in fact two back plane with CPU, IO and mem, same thing :( :( Last thing: my Lisa show a D/A8 ROM. While i'm testing, i get o

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Jerome Vernet
rome No. Is really difficult that the problem is on this side. Check the INTERNAL connectors where the card cage go to be inserted. Open the back cover, remove the card cage and clean the left big connector. Guido Guido, It's working !!! Thank you very much, all people ! I've cleaned a

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Guido Deiana
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:27:39 +0100, Jerome Vernet wrote > It's working !!! Thank you very much, all people ! > > I've cleaned as much as I can the contacts, and was able to read some > disks ! Goal ! > I've tried the second board, it's a H/A8. It work, but for some point: > I have the mouse w

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread Jerome Vernet
Le 26 févr. 06, à 22:45, Guido Deiana a écrit : No. A not good and stable contact on the mouse connector. A dry antioxidant spray perhaps will solve again the problem. The mouse work well in the boot screen. as long I am in this boot screen, it work. I start on the profile (MacOs), the mo

Re: Lisa Disk Drive

2006-02-26 Thread macmoni
Hi, that have been the correct two PINs. It should work. I never saw a Lisa, where this kind of "Drive-support" didn't work. Lisa 2 or Mac XL, doesn't matter - it should work. So the only conclusion is after testing it with a second manipulated drive, that your I/O Board or your motherboard cou