[IFWP] Re: InterNIC - New Look?

1999-03-23 Thread Jeff Williams
Michael and all, Michael Dillon wrote: On Mon, 22 Mar 1999, Golan Klinger wrote: Further, the US Department of Commerce has little power and no interest in this matter. Clearly you don't have a clue what is going on. The DOC stepped in and prevented a competitive alternative TLD

[IFWP] Re: NSI's actions

1999-03-23 Thread Jeff Williams
Stef and all, Einar Stefferud wrote: Hi Antony -- I am having a lot of difficulty with the fact that you opened this thread with an accusation that I am acting in favor of NSI for conflict of interest reasons, which is very much like asking when I am going to stop beating my wife. Of

[IFWP] Four more years

1999-03-23 Thread Richard J. Sexton
It's like Vietnam. We've got to kick ourselves in the * before we realize we've been wrong. Once politicians and lawyers get their hooks in, there's only one way things can go: legislation and constraint. Regulation. Regulation didn't stop the war, acid did. What happened to the White

Re: [IFWP] RE: NSI's actions

1999-03-23 Thread Dave Crocker
At 11:20 PM 3/22/99 -0500, A.M. Rutkowski wrote: continuum. The InterNIC today is about as relevant as the NSFNet backbone. They both hail from the same era. So, the fact that it is old means that it is irrelevant. Interesting logic, since TCP and IP are even older. I gather than IANA is

[IFWP] Re: A tough decision

1999-03-23 Thread Ron Kimball
On Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:29:25 -0800, "William X. Walsh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beginning in just a few hours, DSo Internet will turn on a root server serving the "root" zone as pulled from the ORSC staging root, which includes a number of TLDs not currently in the NSI operated USG controlled

Re: [IFWP] Four more years

1999-03-23 Thread Dr Eberhard W Lisse
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Richard J. Sexton" writes: What happened to the White Paper and Internet self-regulation? A fairytale for the IFWP. Ah. The McGovern campaign of the DNS. Actually, you guys did it yourself. el

Re: [IFWP] Four more years

1999-03-23 Thread Michael Sondow
Richard J. Sexton a écrit: Regulation didn't stop the war Just what I was saying. acid did. Are you referring to acetylsalicylic acid, perchance? In any case, I doubt if the war in Vietnam was stopped by acid of any sort, but a little of it might help the present regulators to find a

Re: [IFWP] Four more years

1999-03-23 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 05:25 PM 3/23/99 +0200, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Richard J. Sexton" writes: What happened to the White Paper and Internet self-regulation? A fairytale for the IFWP. Ah. The McGovern campaign of the DNS. Actually, you guys did it yourself. How so ? --

Re: [IFWP] RE: NSI's actions

1999-03-23 Thread Richard J. Sexton
At 04:01 PM 3/23/99 +0100, Dave Crocker wrote: At 11:20 PM 3/22/99 -0500, A.M. Rutkowski wrote: continuum. The InterNIC today is about as relevant as the NSFNet backbone. They both hail from the same era. So, the fact that it is old means that it is irrelevant. Interesting logic, since TCP

[IFWP] FYI (Slightly off topic) Global IT Market Wastes $76b says Meta Report

1999-03-23 Thread Jeff Williams
All, Looks like there is allot more than enough to go around... see: http://cnnfn.com/digitaljam/newsbytes/128328.html So just maybe there is jusst a bit too much whining going on here??? Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.

[IFWP] Re: Semantics (was InterNIC - R.I.P.)

1999-03-23 Thread Jeff Williams
Kris and all, One problem or misconception that you may be under Kris is that NSI DOES own the registry. This was determined by the NTIA/DOC some time ago now Kris Schantz wrote: All: Agreed. I think everyone appreciates Chuck's ongoing efforts to act as a point of contact for NSI,

[IFWP] Re: FW: Forget the INTERNIC, I'll do it myself

1999-03-23 Thread Bill Lovell
At 12:43 PM 3/23/99 -0500, you wrote: Actually, the USG now has the trademark. Ah, so! Now, inasmuch as trademarks cannot exist in a vacuum but only in association with the corresponding goods and/or services -- if you're not a trademark attorney kindly don't argue that point -- are you saying

[IFWP] Re: the news...

1999-03-23 Thread Bill Lovell
At 10:54 AM 3/23/99 -0800, you wrote: There have been several articles. Mostly with a negative twinge. Here are three of them: http://www.thestandard.com/articles/display/0,1449,3933,00.html?home.tf http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,34090,00.html

RE: [IFWP] Re: the news...

1999-03-23 Thread Robert Raisch
I am deeply saddened to see no mention of the issue of anti-competitive service bundling raised in the various news articles with regards Network Solutions recent highjacking of the Internic. Am I the only one who sees how damaging this has been and will continue to be to those providing mail

RE: [IFWP] Re: the news...

1999-03-23 Thread William X. Walsh
I brought them up on the internic's domain-policy lists. ISPs on various other forums I am one are MOST concerned with this issue. I also express these concerns to a reporter form the AP this afternoon, but it doesn't appear his story carried that aspect, focusing on the regulatory/USG/ICANN

[IFWP] The continued contract

1999-03-23 Thread Bill Lovell
This language is quoted from the Industry Standard article, and seems to present the nub of the problem. "The registrar is akin to the retailer of domain names to the public and that is where the competition will be launched initially. The registry function is akin to the wholesaler and the

[IFWP] The trademark

1999-03-23 Thread Bill Lovell
This from the CNET article: "Under its contract with the U.S. government, NSI owns the contents of the InterNIC database. It appears that the government owns the InterNIC trademark, meaning that only it could object to NSI's move." That's drivel. Anyone adversely affected by the use of a

Re: [IFWP] The continued contract

1999-03-23 Thread Jeff Williams
Bill and all, Bill Lovell wrote: This language is quoted from the Industry Standard article, and seems to present the nub of the problem. "The registrar is akin to the retailer of domain names to the public and that is where the competition will be launched initially. The registry

[IFWP] Death of Net Predicted (Courtesy ICANN/NSI/SAIC/USG/EU/ETC)

1999-03-23 Thread Bob Allisat
Monopoly siutuations invite the kind of decision making and public reaction we are witnessing in regards to Network Solutions recent abandonment of the Internic moniker (not to mention the highly covered up reaction to the ICANN debacle!). We, as citizens, have nowhere else to turn with

[IFWP] Domain Names are property, says court

1999-03-23 Thread Michael Sondow
The Circuit Court of Fairfax County, Virginia, found on February 3, 1999, that domain names are "property" and subject to judicial sale to satisfy a monetary judgment against the registrant. http://www.alston.com/docs/Advisories/199709/Ipwebtxt.htm