Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Mallory van Achterberg
Hello all, I was looking around at popular e-commerce setups like Magento and Zend Cart. And I realised most of these are PHP based, for whatever reason. Is there a (decent, maintained) Perl-based e-commerce platform out there? I've found lists of scripts (as they called them) for things like

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Kieren Diment
My understanding is that you've been looking at front ends. I know that Perl has rich sets of libraries for back end transactions, but for front end stuff you either need to roll your own (surprisingly economical with tools like Catalyst, Dancer, Mojo co) or lash your perl code into one of

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread James Laver
On 14 Sep 2011, at 10:11, Mallory van Achterberg wrote: Is there a (decent, maintained) Perl-based e-commerce platform out there? No. I can find plenty of, for example, shops running Magento and I can see (as a user) what all comes with that. Even themeing magento is a pain in the arse,

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Mallory van Achterberg
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 10:37:55AM +0100, James Laver wrote: On 14 Sep 2011, at 10:11, Mallory van Achterberg wrote: Is there a (decent, maintained) Perl-based e-commerce platform out there? No. I can find plenty of, for example, shops running Magento and I can see (as a user) what

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Edwards
On 14 September 2011 10:37, James Laver james.la...@gmail.com wrote: On 14 Sep 2011, at 10:11, Mallory van Achterberg wrote: Is there a (decent, maintained) Perl-based e-commerce platform out there? No. I can find plenty of, for example, shops running Magento and I can see (as a

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Edwards
On 14 September 2011 12:20, Mallory van Achterberg stommep...@stommepoes.nl wrote: My question isn't because I'm personally looking for a shopping cart to use myself, or for a client (at least, not yet). My question is because, I see it as another reason web developers don't even consider

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
On 14 Sep 2011, at 12:20, Mallory van Achterberg wrote: My question isn't because I'm personally looking for a shopping cart to use myself, or for a client (at least, not yet). My question is because, I see it as another reason web developers don't even consider Perl for these things. Which

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread James Laver
On 14 Sep 2011, at 12:20, Mallory van Achterberg wrote: Yes, I actually got acquainted with Firebug solely for dealing with Magento front-end. And the reliance on Javascript to do things that belong to HTML, CSS and the server was gross. Yet people use it. Ah, you've shared that pain.

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread James Laver
On 14 Sep 2011, at 12:26, Peter Edwards wrote: I'll echo what James says here. For a free software cart frontend use a PHP cart like ZenCart and OSCommerce, the Perl solutions aren't fully featured enough IME. ZenCart is a fork of OSCommerce that does not fix the horrible security holes.

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Peter Edwards
ZenCart is a fork of OSCommerce that does not fix the horrible security holes. Don't use either of these. I tend to assume any PHP site is going be insecure unless proven otherwise :-D I won't repeat conversations I've had with small business owners about why they should pay a bit more for a

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:36:23PM +0100, Peter Edwards wrote: That's why PHP is used PHP is a thorough and effective solution to the following problem, which is also its main design goal: How can stupid people create poor-quality web sites cheaply? Turns out this is in high demand, due to the

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:47, Andrew Suffield asuffi...@suffields.me.uk wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:36:23PM +0100, Peter Edwards wrote: That's why PHP is used PHP is a thorough and effective solution to the following problem, which is also its main design goal: How can stupid people

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Simon Wilcox
On 14/09/2011 19:47, Andrew Suffield wrote: PHP is a thorough and effective solution to the following problem, which is also its main design goal: How can stupid people create poor-quality web sites cheaply? Turns out this is in high demand, due to the large quantity of both those things in

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 08:14:03PM +0100, Simon Wilcox wrote: On 14/09/2011 19:47, Andrew Suffield wrote: PHP is a thorough and effective solution to the following problem, which is also its main design goal: How can stupid people create poor-quality web sites cheaply? Turns out this is

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Richard Huxton
On 14/09/11 20:42, Nicholas Clark wrote: I'm not convinced that their language design is sane ...[snipped fairly agree-able list of php's flaws] On the other hand, they have managed to implement a class keyword. And exceptions. -- Richard Huxton Archonet Ltd

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Sue Spence
On 14 September 2011 19:47, Andrew Suffield asuffi...@suffields.me.uk wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:36:23PM +0100, Peter Edwards wrote: That's why PHP is used PHP is a thorough and effective solution to the following problem, which is also its main design goal: How can stupid people

Re: Perl e-commerce?

2011-09-14 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Simon == Simon Wilcox es...@ourshack.com writes: Simon PHP solved the problem of making web-based applications easy to Simon install. Something that all the 'big brains' of Perl still Simon haven't solved. Ease of installation leads to ease of Simon adoption. Hence why PHP has hammered Perl into