[ANNOUNCE] London Perl Workshop: Volunteers

2012-11-22 Thread Mark Keating
Hi all, As usual the London Perl Workshop is shouting out for volunteers to help us set up and run the days activities. In previous years I have received a lot of help from the community and i hope to persuade you to help again. We shall assemble between 08:00 and 08:15 on the morning of the

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread Andrew Savige
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:29:29PM +, Dave Cross wrote: At the LPW on Saturday I'm giving a talk entitled 25 Years of Perl Twenty five years is a long time, so inevitably some Perl hackers have passed away during that period:  Iain Truskett (aka Spoon/Koschei)  Nick Ing-Simmons  Dr Randy

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread Matt Freake
1/ Technical What CPAN modules deserve to be mentioned as part of Perl's history? Which Perl infrastructure projects are (or were) important? Are there any other technical things that need to be covered? Has the CPAN shell always been there? Discovering that made me life a lot easier and

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread Dave Cross
Quoting Matt Freake matthew.d.fre...@gmail.com: 1/ Technical What CPAN modules deserve to be mentioned as part of Perl's history? Which Perl infrastructure projects are (or were) important? Are there any other technical things that need to be covered? Has the CPAN shell always been there?

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread Guinevere Nell
On that subject, I recall that search.cpan.org sucked at the start and I'm not sure who fixed it (the search) and who maintained CPAN (and it's accumulating wonderful -- and sometimes silly -- modules) but yeah it's the heart of most development ... on the irc topic, will you be mentioning purl? I

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread Abigail
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:09:36PM +, Guinevere Nell wrote: On that subject, I recall that search.cpan.org sucked at the start and I'm not sure who fixed it (the search) and who maintained CPAN (and it's accumulating wonderful -- and sometimes silly -- modules) but yeah it's the heart of

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread Dave Cross
Quoting Guinevere Nell guinevere.n...@gmail.com: On that subject, I recall that search.cpan.org sucked at the start and I'm not sure who fixed it (the search) and who maintained CPAN (and it's accumulating wonderful -- and sometimes silly -- modules) but yeah it's the heart of most development

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread James Laver
On 22 Nov 2012, at 12:19, Abigail abig...@abigail.be wrote: A community thing that hasn't been mentioned yet: conference auctions. (Isn't London.pm still suffering from the outcome of an auction in 2001?) I consider it an interesting quirk. Interestingly the PHP and python meetups in london

Re: [ANNOUNCE] London Perl Workshop: Volunteers

2012-11-22 Thread Avi Greenbury
Mark Keating wrote: We shall assemble between 08:00 and 08:15 on the morning of the conference to help with the moving of books, setting up of video cameras, placing of room signs, organising sponsors desks, packing bags etc. - Anyone who can be there all hands are welcome. martin Brooks of

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread Uri Guttman
On 11/22/2012 07:19 AM, Abigail wrote: I do remember Kevin giving us a tour of CMU, which included the location of the box that was running purl. This was during one of the first YAPCs, so indeed no later than 19100. A community thing that hasn't been mentioned yet: conference auctions. (Isn't

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread Abigail
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:57:52AM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote: the first yapc in pitt/cmu run by lenzo was in the red. during the banquet we passed around a (real) hat). we collected over $2k to cover the shortage. Actually, the collection was during Kevins closing remarks. The $2k was

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread Uri Guttman
On 11/22/2012 12:17 PM, Abigail wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:57:52AM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote: the first yapc in pitt/cmu run by lenzo was in the red. during the banquet we passed around a (real) hat). we collected over $2k to cover the shortage. Actually, the collection was during

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread Sam Kington
On 20 Nov 2012, at 16:09, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote: [regarding matt's scripts] If anyone is unaware of the London Perl Mongers' reaction to Matt's scripts, you should probably read http://www.scriptarchive.com/nms.html Some mention should be made also of the attempt to rewrite the

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Sam Kington s...@illuminated.co.uk wrote: Some mention should be made also of the attempt to rewrite the entire Unix support structure in Perl - things like ls, find, head etc. I don't think this ever went very far, and it appears to be very difficult to Google

Re: 25 Years of Perl

2012-11-22 Thread Andrew Savige
Though there doubtless isn't time for a deatiled history of the lighter side of Perl culture, for completeness, in addition to Acme modules, we have: JAPH, Obfu, Golf, Poetry, April Fools. Some highlights: JAPH: First JAPH by merlyn 1988, followed later by trickier ones. Abigail's later