On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 05:26:17AM +1200, Kent Fredric wrote:
On 19 September 2013 03:04, Nicholas Clark n...@ccl4.org wrote:
Maybe everyone already feels that they know Perl well enough to blag an
interview.
Maybe an interesting, and uniquely disruptive topic for a book could be
You
On 19 September 2013 08:41, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote:
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 05:26:17AM +1200, Kent Fredric wrote:
Maybe an interesting, and uniquely disruptive topic for a book could be
You don't know Perl ( or something along those lines...
That book needs a
On 19 September 2013 19:41, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
philippe.bru...@free.frwrote:
That book needs a chapter about the secret operators. ;-)
I disagree, I don't see much value in promoting esoteric ways to use Perl.
We just need to promote things that are good, and things that are awesome,
and
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote:
On 19 September 2013 19:41, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
philippe.bru...@free.frwrote:
That book needs a chapter about the secret operators. ;-)
I disagree, I don't see much value in promoting esoteric ways to use Perl.
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 08:46:35PM +1200, Kent Fredric wrote:
On 19 September 2013 19:41, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
philippe.bru...@free.frwrote:
That book needs a chapter about the secret operators. ;-)
I disagree, I don't see much value in promoting esoteric ways to use Perl.
We just
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 04:19:18PM +0100, gvim wrote:
On 18/09/2013 15:57, Jason Clifford wrote:
I wonder whether part of the answer to this question lies in the fact
that the things that could be covered in Perl books about frameworks,
Moose, etc are fairly well documented and that the
Abigail abig...@abigail.be wrote:
I'd call them niche books. If generic books don't sell, why would niche
books?
A thought. One way of mitigating the risk of writing a book that might not
sell could be to use cloud funding (e.g. kickstarter.com). This would have a
number of advantages:
- it
On 19 Sep 2013, at 12:21, Chris Jack chris_j...@msn.com wrote:
[...]
- it would be more apparent how little money is sometimes available for the
effort of writing a book
I don't know the exact figures, but it's roughly a four figure sum for a
reasonably successful Perl book. And given that
think about $20-30 and at least one day out of your life per week for 6
months to work on the book. It's not lucrative, but I found the whole
experience fun and rewarding. Except for the day when I wrote around 4000
words and felt quite mentally unstable at the end. The following day I
threw at
$20-30 per hour that should say. Why don't mailing lists have an edit
button?
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Kieren Diment dim...@gmail.com wrote:
think about $20-30 and at least one day out of your life per week for 6
months to work on the book. It's not lucrative, but I found the whole
Trolling aside, I've come to an understanding about this recently which can
best be described thus:
Peel has entered the Erlang stage of its life cycle. It is a very capable
language, which became popular at a time when there was a great need for
the things it provided.
Since then it has seen
On 18 September 2013 17:01, Paul LeoNerd leon...@leonerd.org.uk wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:45:10 +0100
Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote:
If you don't agree, do feel free to give the titles of a few
hypothetical Perl books that you would be prepared to pay £30 for.
Asynchronous
Dear All,
*TALK DEADLINE*
This is your countdown notice that lets you all know that the deadline
for submitting a talk to the London Perl Workshop is rapidly
approaching. This year the date of Friday the 25th October has been chosen.
The theme for the London Perl Workshop will be Decadon: A
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Philippe Bruhat (BooK)
philippe.bru...@free.fr wrote:
Some of the secret ops are actually awesome, used in production code,
and deserve to be better known. From the top of my head: 0+ !! @{[]} ()x!!
Seriously. Perl's lack of a string eval interpolation
On 18 Sep 2013, at 21:03, gvim gvi...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18/09/2013 18:48, Peter Corlett wrote:
Dancer and Mojolicious are lightweight, DBIx::Class only slightly less so,
and are not separately enough material for a full-sized book. At best,
you're talking a 100 page print-on-demand
On Sep 19, 2013 2:39 PM, Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote:
On 18 Sep 2013, at 21:03, gvim gvi...@gmail.com wrote:
On 18/09/2013 18:48, Peter Corlett wrote:
Dancer and Mojolicious are lightweight, DBIx::Class only slightly less
so, and are not separately enough material for a
On 19/09/2013 19:28, Peter Corlett wrote:
I don't think a book published purely in German is that relevant.
People who speak Mandarin, Hindi or Spanish no doubt have much the same opinion
of books published purely in English.
Relevant as in relevant to solving the suggested dearth of
On 19/09/2013 19:28, Peter Corlett wrote:
As it happens, I own a copy of REST in Practice. I fished it out
of my to read pile and given it a quick skim. The handful of
examples within are in C# and Java, but it's not called RESTful APIs
with C#/Java for a reason: this is a book about REST
On 19 Sep 2013, at 20:39, gvim gvi...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
Again, it's not about me. It's about what's out there in other scripting
languages and how that affects mindshare for new Perl developers. The REST
example was used only to make a point. The fact that you can get by on RFCs
and
On 20/09/2013, at 9:21, Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote:
If you are so passionate about seeing new niche Perl books written as you are
making out, you had better fire up your editor and get cracking.
Many publishers prefer msword ;)
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote:
If somebody new discovers Perl and uses it, that's great. If they don't, I'm
cool with that too.
Well if perl doesn't attract new developers, and the existing user
base is a diminishing set, perl will eventually run out
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