Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Leon Brocard will be talking about the plans for the CPAN cabal meeting in
*a couple of weeks entitled How can we make CPAN even better?
Posing that question to London.pm will likely bring on a slew of Acme
modules to bring up your CPAN portion to 20% or
Rafael Garcia-Suarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
* - that circle of light behind the head of saints (what's the english
* word ?)
Halo or nimbus :)
e.
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
* I don't know that you could get away with that in the US as they'd track
* down the owner of the car after 7 days
*
*What car are you talking about? There is no car.
Perhaps you forgot in this long pointless thread, that you started picking
on drivers
Adam Turoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Actually, contraindications with large (oral?) doses of vitamin C involve
*something called bowel tolerance. Don't know where pissing shards is
*on the spectrum. :-)
Well, Vitamin C does make a reliable abortifacient for women who are very
early in their
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*bah, call them guns - you want to try Northern Ireland you do,
*where in the its hay day, the RUC carried sub machine guns and
*were generally escorted by army with fully automatic rifles and
*a penchant for tracking you in the scopes despite what the
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*CwG: Right, you have seven days to produce your ID card at any police
*station -- here's the appropriate bit of paper to bring along with it.
*Me: Right ho. Have a nice day.
I don't know that you could get away with that in the US as they'd track
down the
Tony Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*You only have to be able to produce your driving license when asked, and
*you have up to 7 days to do so. You don't have to be carrying it.
Well, I suspect something similar would happen with an ID card.
However, that's not the point. The data is already
Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
* Indeed, I feel the same, but it's only a matter of time before it comes.
*
*Only if enough people take that attitude.
Well, I suppose I'd rather worry about the data they've been collecting
and shoving into databases all these years than only now start
Andy Wardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Well I have a great idea! How about we all carry London.pm ID cards?
*That way, you could walk down any street in any town in the world and
*instantly know who was a card-carrying London.pm member just by asking
*to see their ID cards.
:) Well, I'll put
Michel Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I can see a new thread starting, with people arguing for and against ID
*cards in XML (but will they be in Esperanto?).
http://www.axis-of-aevil.org/photos/yapc2003/IMG_1812.html
Just have people be the XML :)
e.
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Well fuck that for a game of soldiers.
Indeedand I just got a 'non-member' bounce.
e.
Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*As a Frog, I probably have a slightly different take on this. We've had
*compulsory ID cards forever (well, for much longer than my lifetime) and
*are accustomed to them. Somewhere between 93-95, a thumbprint was added to
*them. That's biometrics, but
Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Oh yeah, and if we survive that we'll roast to death. I do wonder how the
*field of biometrics will survive the accrued mutation in the human species.
Well, if you believe the talking heads everything will be saved by biotech
and nanotech. Poor Jacques
Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I see no reason why I should have to carry extra papers proving who I am
*in addition to the usual bank issued plastic etc in my pocket as I go
*about my business where I live. I have a passport at home anyway to
*prove who I am should I leave the
Clayton, Nik [IT] [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*One of the big themes for me was hearing the Perl guys wanting to help
* out everyone else, whether the other languages wanted them or not. That
* fits in with what's best described as the irrational exuberance of the
* Perlees. They run around like
Robin Berjon [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I don't think that's what Elaine was pointing at. You're hit by a bus and
*die. How do they contact your friends and family if you can't be identified?
Perl people have friends and families?! :)
e.
Steve Mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I don't live in St. Louis but if I did I would be complaining about that
*law. One bad law in St. Louis doesn't justify introducing a bad law in
*the UK.
It's a really old law, one that has never actually been used as far as I'm
aware. Finland has a law
Rafael Garcia-Suarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I always have in my wallet an official and signed statement asserting
*that I authorize hospitals to take my organs off my dead body and use
*them without bothering asking my family. As a side-effect, it identifies
*me.
One of my side-jobs when I
Simon Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*On a conceptual level I have no particular problem with carrying an id
*card. Do I trust the government to get it right and to protect my data ?
*Not a bloody chance !
Indeed, I feel the same, but it's only a matter of time before it comes.
e.
Mark Rogaski [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Surely the Python folks aren't so frail as to be easily knocked over by
*enthusiastic dachshunds. Personally, I'd say Labrador Retrievers were
*clore to the mark ... they match the above description, and what could be
*more Perlish than a dog with webbed
Sam Vilain [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I think a better approach to the problem with people's organs failing
*all over the place would be to replace the USDA Food Pyramid touted
*around the world as nutritional perfection, to something actually
*based on scientific study and research :-)
Like
Ronan Oger (roasp) [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*with even less:
*I do not know if thi sis done... Correlate POS/air mile data with card-based
*mobile phone users, and get real-time positionning of people who are nown to
*pruchase specific products.
I can say that I know it's possible and likely
Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Imagine the heath warnings that would have to carry, if it were made in
*the US.
*
*(My immediate thought was the fat per 100g, based on my impression of US
*obesity statistics, but it occurs to me that may cause altzheimers or
*CJD would be the more
Dean Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*If i use 'autobundle' while in the CPAN shell to create a snapshot and then
*i try to install all the modules in the bundle (with something like
*perl -MCPAN -e 'install Bundle::Snapshot_2003_08_25_01') what should the
*behaviour of the modules be in regards
Steve Keay [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I've heard lots of people say leave the system perl in place and
*that makes good sense to me, but,
*
*in the past I've had trouble while installing modules because the
*scripts they use for installation end up running /usr/bin/perl and it
*screws up the
Andy Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*How do I change the search directories in @INC?
*
*I have recently installed a later version of perl (5.8.0) from version
*5.6.1 on a solaris 2.8 box. I am now trying to make new perl modules to
*use under this distribution but @INC point ot the wrong
Joel Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Sell the children, I say.
Well, you know.years ago I suggested that there be a series of Perl
for kids cartoons with jingles in the vein of School House Rock [
www.schoolhouserock.com ] which were educational cartoons shown on
saturday mornings with
Steve Purkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*The greatest thing about all this targeted marketing will be the
*side-effects - kids asking their parents if they can code Perl. You
*know, the pressure that marketing puts on parents is phenomenal...
*we'll have them coding Perl in no time!
You
Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I am not sure if that is interesting or if it makes sense but if there were
*some (educational ?) games in Perl that school kids could play and then
*hack around the code.
Well, see, the cool thing about School House Rock, especially Grammar Rock
and
Alex Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I have had a look at your archives and can't see much reference to
*this, and wonder if there are any users of the perl in Mac OSX out
*there?
http://lists.cpan.org/search.cgi?cat=Mac
e.
Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*This counts as art rather than debauchery? On the basis that debauchery
*is frowned on at social meetings?
*
*Anyway, this seems unlikely, given Leon's previous insistence that he
*won't be wearing it.
Gads, given the choice, I'd almost rather have
Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*NATURE-LOVING HOTTIES FROM THE PLAINS STATES DO IT ALL FOR YOU!
You should ask if they do web design as well :)
e.
darren chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
** Elaine -HFB- Ashton elaine at chaos.wustl.edu [2003-08-06 11:30]:
*
* Or how many of you will be revealed to be quite fetching in drag! :)
*
*I assume you mean Leon[0][1].
Actually, no, but now that you mention it:)
e.
Andy Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*Another word to confuse the non English speaking community -the verb to
*text!!
Welcome to English where any noun can be verbed :) Also popular is 'to
SMS' or 'to be SMS-ed'. The American side of the OED is a lot more
progressive and so it may even be possible
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*will other people be wearing clothes they won at the auction - leon?
He needs to send me his postal address first :)
e.
Rhys Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Put another way do you mung, or munge the data ?
mung is a fun word in American English :)
The dictionary of american regional english defines it as
mang or mung
1. 1884 Amer. Philol. Accos. Trans. for 1183 14.51 WV, Man means in West.
Virginia the
Dan Sugalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*At 10:32 AM +0100 7/12/03, Mark Fowler wrote:
*
*It burns! It burns! I haven't seen anything that ugly since slashdot
*released their games themed subsection[1]. I'll drop a hundred bucks if
*you get them to change it back *right* *now*.
*
*Graham has said
Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I think that this would be good. Sunday night would be quieter than
*Saturday night (but I'm biased because I'm taking that Monday off work)
We're on holiday so we could, technically, go out either or both nights :)
I have no idea what day the eurostar
Andy Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*What is an easy way to find all installed perl modules
*
*Is there a module to do it!!
http://www.cpan.org/misc/cpan-faq.html#How_installed_modules
e.
Peter Sergeant [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I believe Elaine prefers 'pussy-whipped towel boy', but my memory may be
*faulty...
No, he was unsuitable for that since he kept bringing me orange towels.
I won't be auctioning myself off either as I have enough to do with
helping to keep Jarkko from
Natalie Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Well, if it was then a lot of us (that don't live actually *in* london
*but do live *near* london - i.e. in the UK) would also be deemed to be
*cheating if listed as london.pm members...
20kilometres is a bit closer than halfway around the planet and in a
Joel Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
* For inspiring Acme modules around the world, maybe. Yes, as soon as my Evil
* Island Lair with Volcano upgrade dispatches I'll send some henchmen over to
* the UK to take care of that. :)
*
*Don't volcanos freeze in finland? ;-)
No more than they do
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Won't the fact that lots of people going round saying 'Live long and
*Prosper' and doing strange things with their hands be a bit of a
*give way that the secret base is there?
Nah, we'll just say it's the location for the next Star Trek movie. :)
e.
Mark Overmeer [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*What is the reason to create packages in the first place? To group
*related code. But what is related?
*
*Both choices have their advantages and disadvantages.
*
* * integrate code of different sources into one package file:
We call them distributions
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Hmmm, personally I'd find bundles a lot more useful if they understood
*version numbers. But I suspect that's just a pet hate of mine.
They do. Have you read the documentation? :)
e.
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*They're documented as doing so, but last I checked the version numbers
*where ignored. This was last year, so the situation may well have changed.
I've never had a problem with version numbers in bundles, but if you
require a particular version of a
Nicholas Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*london.pm is now responsible for 9% of CPAN.
*It would be nice to get over 10%.
Since when did Damian join the London.pm? :)
*We don't (yet) have stats for just Acme modules. That might get more
*interesting (or just confirm our reputation)
Actually, I
Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
* Since when did Damian join the London.pm? :)
*
*IIRC he insisted on being added.
Hmmm. I suspect non-geographic affiliation is cheating but, then again, we
blame him for the Acme:: epidemic so perhaps it's just as well. :)
*I'm mentioned in the credits.
Ian Malpass [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*I modify, say, WWW::CIA::Parser and call it version 0.02.
*
*Do I create a new tarball called WWW-CIA-0.02.tar.gz, including the
*updated module, and upload that, or do I just upload the modified module
*somehow?
do a 'make manifest;make dist' in your build
michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*monger - O.E. mangere, from L. mango (gen. mangonis) dealer, trader,
*from Gk. manganon contrivance, means of enchantment. Used in comb. form
*in Eng. since at least 12c.; since 16c. chiefly with overtones of petty
*and disreputable. The modern verb is first
Jonathan Stowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*As the perlmod manpage says (with my emphasis) :
*
*
* START WITH H2XS!
Actually, it stole it from the ExtUtils::MakeMaker man page :)
How To Write A Makefile.PL
The short answer is: Don't.
Always begin with h2xs.
Always begin
Walt Mankowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 05:29:29AM -0500, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
* Friar Tuck, as I recall :) You might be amused to know the original name
* for search.cpan was TUCS which I believe was to be accompanied by a
* picture of Friar Tuck.
*
*What did TUCS
Luis Campos de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
* Where are the list girls and their good-taste for decoration? =-]
Well, to be honest, gay men know far more about decorating than I do as I
only use white or beige paint on the walls of my house and my clothes are
mostly all black so I can be
Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*what are garanimal tags, i'm sure google would tell me where is the social
*interaction in that.
http://www.garanimals.com/garanimals_history.htm
Because fashion retardation starts early in life and, for many, never
leaves :)
*as for the colour of perl
Steve Purkis [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*That's horribly out-dated though. The fact of the matter is that
*Makefile.PL's aren't that difficult to write. It's writing customized
*make targets that's the hard bit, and you only need to do that for more
*complicated projects (ie: not for
Mark Fowler [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Elaine -HFB- Ashton wrote:
*
* praise for h2xs
*
*How about looking at ExtUtils::ModuleMaker?
I'm aware of ModuleMaker and even stuck a blurb about it in the CPAN talk
at TPC when he was just releasing it. I have no tool bias but would
Rafael Garcia-Suarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*Because there are no perl nuns ?
*(seems to me that a discussion with monks necessarily
*involves brothers)
I registered the domain 'perlnuns.org' a long time ago but it never really
got going due to a decided lack of women and interest. It was
Rafael Garcia-Suarez [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*And if you're depicting oneself as a monk, this could be an avatari of
*that awesome fellow of Robin Hood, (what's his name?), who prefers
*beverages to prayers.
Friar Tuck, as I recall :) You might be amused to know the original name
for
Ali Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoth:
*
*For some reason, I hadn't really put much thought into the fact that
*monks implied a male-only group in that context. Cue rerun of Life of
*Brian.
*
*I can't imagine wanting to join a for the girls Perl group, since I've
*not met anyone in any Perlmongers
Dan Sugalski [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*At 09:44 AM 1/10/2002 -0600, Chris Devers wrote:
*
*Oh no! May I ask who the editor-in-chief was? None of the books seem to
*mention this position at all, though I've noticed that they have been
*adjusting the format of their books recently (not as many
Paul Johnson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 05:03:27PM +0100, Lee Goddard wrote:
*
* Oh, CPAN if I can find a licence that'll stop people from making
* money out of this when I'm not.
*
*There are certainly numerous licences like that, but I'm afraid that you
*wouldn't then
http://search.cpan.org/doc/LGODDARD/Acme-PM-London-Maps-Earth-0.01/Earth.pm
Remove the PC carriage returns and not only will this be readable on
search but from perldoc on unix as well :)
dos2unix should work.
e.
Cross David - dcross [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth:
*
*
*Notice how 'PERL' (sic) is singled out for particular attention.
I wonder what ActiveState's reaction to this is. Especially in light of MS
shipping the Windows resource kit or somesuch with ActivePerl last year if
I remember correctly.
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