Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-25 Thread Nik Clayton
http://prepaidwithdata.wikia.com/wiki/UK is probably relevant (no idea how up to date it is though). N -- http://try-dot-ch.blogspot.com/

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-23 Thread Toby Wintermute
On 23 August 2012 00:41, Anthony Lucas anthonyjlu...@gmail.com wrote: They just want you to buy their tethering add-on and mifi products. It's probably simpler for me to just pay for the damn tethering add-on, but part of me is annoyed at the restriction and wishes to try to bypass it :) I'll

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-23 Thread Paul Makepeace
The charge is to attempt to mitigate the Tragedy of the Commons which would affect everyone else so just fork over the cash already ;) In practice that all said I've never run into any restrictions with T Mobile but I also don't take the piss so who knows... Written on my phone On Aug 22, 2012

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-23 Thread Smylers
Chris Carline writes: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Nuno Jesus nunje...@gmail.com wrote: I'm also going to London very soon and I was thinking to order a giffgaff SIM card. If you're going to do that, order via a referral link from somebody already on Giffgaff and each of you get £5

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-23 Thread Mike Whitaker
On 21 Aug 2012, at 15:48, Nuno Jesus nunje...@gmail.com wrote: I'm also going to London very soon and I was thinking to order a giffgaff SIM card. They seem to have the best prices. Am I missing something? I *have* a giffgaff SIM going spare (they send you one after a while if you're a

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-23 Thread Daniel Perrett
The charge is to attempt to mitigate the Tragedy of the Commons which would affect everyone else Um, but the people who watch hours of videos on their telephones are the cause of bandwidth problems, not the people who tether their laptops so they can open attachments more easily or run git push

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-23 Thread Peter Corlett
On 23 Aug 2012, at 07:22, Toby Wintermute wrote: [...] I'll try VPNing back to my shell account and see what happens.. can't be any slower than 3G already is.. IME, this will make HTTP *faster* because it bypasses the bloody awful transparent proxies that mobile telcos insist on using to

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-23 Thread the hatter
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, Anthony Lucas wrote: 3 can be quite good with the traffic detection if it's obvious. I've used all the other real networks over the last many years - from my current t-mobile contract and my orange PAYG with 1ukp/day data addon, think my previous payg option was

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-23 Thread Toby Wintermute
On 23 August 2012 19:43, Peter Corlett ab...@cabal.org.uk wrote: On 23 Aug 2012, at 07:22, Toby Wintermute wrote: [...] I'll try VPNing back to my shell account and see what happens.. can't be any slower than 3G already is.. IME, this will make HTTP *faster* because it bypasses the bloody

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-22 Thread Paul Weaver
Just fyi, EU Data prices on my O2 phone dropped between may and July from £2.55+ vat per meg to £0.58+vat. £100 cap and 300MB max. Outside Europe it's still £6/mb. I tore through £50 between the airport and hotel in Delhi last week while checking the taxi driver was taking me the right way!

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-22 Thread David Cantrell
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:57:53PM +0800, Paul Weaver wrote: Just fyi, EU Data prices on my O2 phone dropped between may and July from £2.55+ vat per meg to £0.58+vat. £100 cap and 300MB max. Then you need to change your tariff. O2 charge me 8p per MB on the mainland, 2 quid cap per day

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-22 Thread Paul Weaver
The joys of corporate deals :) I think I (or my employer) was charged £1.80 a minute while i was in Pakistan last year. I dread to think how much it cost! On 22 Aug 2012, at 19:51, David Cantrell da...@cantrell.org.uk wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:57:53PM +0800, Paul Weaver wrote: Just

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-22 Thread Anthony Lucas
They just want you to buy their tethering add-on and mifi products. I got through a gig of data before they caught on last time, in a fairly short space of time (as in hours, using it as a hotspot for my laptop, streaming, you name it) and put the temporary block and redirect page up. They

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-21 Thread Nuno Jesus
I'm also going to London very soon and I was thinking to order a giffgaff SIM card. They seem to have the best prices. Am I missing something? On Monday, August 20, 2012, David Hodgkinson wrote: What they said. 3. All the cool kids in the Apple stores buy their iPhones outright and use 3.

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-21 Thread Toby Wintermute
On 21 August 2012 01:17, James Laver london...@jameslaver.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 04:03:43PM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote: [0] The unlimit appears to be of the order of a few gigabytes. They're claiming truly unlimited actually. For an extra fiver they even officially permit

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-21 Thread Denny
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 00:53 +1000, Toby Wintermute wrote: On 21 August 2012 01:17, James Laver london...@jameslaver.com wrote: They're claiming truly unlimited actually. For an extra fiver they even officially permit tethering. Are they likely to even notice if I'm tethering it, sans that

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-21 Thread Peter Corlett
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 12:53:36AM +1000, Toby Wintermute wrote: [...] Now to see if I can get a 3 SIM dispatched to where I'll be staying first up in London.. :) There's no need. You can't throw a stone in London without hitting at least three shops that will sell you SIMs and top-up vouchers.

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-21 Thread Chris Carline
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Nuno Jesus nunje...@gmail.com wrote: I'm also going to London very soon and I was thinking to order a giffgaff SIM card. They seem to have the best prices. Am I missing something? I use giffgaff and they're absolutely fine, even great, for phone and mobile data

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-21 Thread Jason Clifford
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 00:53 +1000, Toby Wintermute wrote: Are they likely to even notice if I'm tethering it, sans that fiver? They *can* detect what you are doing based upon user agent detection and other traffic signatures if they want to. My experience is that they cannot be bothered and I

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-21 Thread Anthony Lucas
3 can be quite good with the traffic detection if it's obvious. In my experience, 5 or so hours of usage (unauthorised tethering) and they're on to you. Pop it back in your phone, reboot or lose the tower, and you're back in business as far as internet access on the phone, but you're now on

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-21 Thread Jason Clifford
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 17:15 +0100, Anthony Lucas wrote: 3 can be quite good with the traffic detection if it's obvious. In my experience, 5 or so hours of usage (unauthorised tethering) and they're on to you. Pop it back in your phone, reboot or lose the tower, and you're back in

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-21 Thread Toby Wintermute
On 22 August 2012 02:15, Anthony Lucas anthonyjlu...@gmail.com wrote: 3 can be quite good with the traffic detection if it's obvious. In my experience, 5 or so hours of usage (unauthorised tethering) and they're on to you. Pop it back in your phone, reboot or lose the tower, and you're back

[OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-20 Thread Toby Wintermute
Hello all, I'm making a whirlwind visit to London and bits of Europe soon, although with awfully poor timing, just missing YAPC:EU :( Hopefully I'll manage to run into a few of you while I'm in London though. The last time I visited, I picked up an Orange SIM that had Unlimited data on the plan..

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-20 Thread James Laver
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:42:40AM +1000, Toby Wintermute wrote: So this time around I thought I should get some local knowledge. Can you suggest a mobile carrier who has: * 3G support for prepaid SIMs * Has reasonably priced data plans * For bonus points -- will work while roaming in

Re: [OT] Prepaid mobile plans with data, possibly roaming

2012-08-20 Thread James Laver
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 04:03:43PM +0100, Peter Corlett wrote: [0] The unlimit appears to be of the order of a few gigabytes. They're claiming truly unlimited actually. For an extra fiver they even officially permit tethering. /j