On Nov 24, 2012, at 22:43 , David H. Adler d...@panix.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:25:33PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
Quoting Guinevere Nell guinevere.n...@gmail.com:
On that subject, I recall that search.cpan.org sucked at the start and I'm
not sure who fixed it (the search) and
Uri == Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com writes:
Uri TAP is used everywhere now. perl invented and spread it so it is universal
in
Uri the perl world.
Uri cpan is always being copied (poorly) by other langs. they just never get
the
Uri community feeling of uploading to cpan as a cred and for
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 07:36:23PM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote:
this thread reminds me of something we need to crow about more. so many
conventions, inventions, ideas have come from the perl community and
then be copied/stolen/absorbed by other langs, usually without much
recognition. the
On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, James Laver wrote:
On 24 Nov 2012, at 00:36, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote:
TAP is used everywhere now. perl invented and spread it so it is
universal in the perl world.
TAP can be used certainly, but most languages have their own testing
infrastructure. Most
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:16:04PM +, Guinevere Nell wrote:
I was looking for Cogent (David Hand)'s module that allowed you to write
Perl in Latin in Klingon that parsed Javascript, I think? But all I found
was Conway's
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 01:19:22PM +0100, Abigail wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:09:36PM +, Guinevere Nell wrote:
On that subject, I recall that search.cpan.org sucked at the start and I'm
not sure who fixed it (the search) and who maintained CPAN (and it's
accumulating wonderful --
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:25:33PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
Quoting Guinevere Nell guinevere.n...@gmail.com:
On that subject, I recall that search.cpan.org sucked at the start and I'm
not sure who fixed it (the search) and who maintained CPAN (and it's
accumulating wonderful -- and sometimes
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote:
On 11/23/2012 02:43 AM, Andrew Savige wrote:
Live Perl Golf Apocalypse 2000 at TPC 4, aka uri's triumph.
wow. that was a painful event. saved by damian's fill in talk and forgiven
by gnat. it was a team failure, so i
On 11/23/2012 02:43 AM, Andrew Savige wrote:
Live Perl Golf Apocalypse 2000 at TPC 4, aka uri's triumph.
wow. that was a painful event. saved by damian's fill in talk and
forgiven by gnat. it was a team failure, so i can't take all the credit.
iirc nfs didn't work well on the donated boxes
On 11/23/2012 02:43 AM, Andrew Savige wrote:
Damian's Coy
module 1999 and subsequent explosion of interest in haiku.
one of my favorite damian stories is about his talk on coy.pm. this was
early damian and tpc didn't schedule him more time or a large enough
room. he was given back to back
/lurk
Annoyingly I'm not going to be able to go to LPW tomorrow now (post-op
dog needs looking after rather more than was anticipated) but one
thing that's not been mentioned is the evolution of the Perl testing
framework.
Test.pm pre-dates Beck's seminal SUnit, and Perl folk caught the
testing
I was looking for Cogent (David Hand)'s module that allowed you to write
Perl in Latin in Klingon that parsed Javascript, I think? But all I found
was Conway's
Latinhttp://search.cpan.org/~dconway/Lingua-Romana-Perligata-0.50/lib/Lingua/Romana/Perligata.pm
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Paul Makepeace pa...@paulm.com wrote:
And some history on what happened,
http://computer-programming-forum.com/53-perl/94afef039a9112e6.htm
Wow, forum posts from 1902.
this thread reminds me of something we need to crow about more. so many
conventions, inventions, ideas have come from the perl community and
then be copied/stolen/absorbed by other langs, usually without much
recognition. the most obvious is regexes with the pcre package everyone
seems to use
On 24 Nov 2012, at 00:36, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote:
this thread reminds me of something we need to crow about more. so many
conventions, inventions, ideas have come from the perl community and then be
copied/stolen/absorbed by other langs, usually without much recognition.
We
On 11/23/2012 08:30 PM, James Laver wrote:
On 24 Nov 2012, at 00:36, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote:
yapc has yet to be properly copied. no one else delivers more bang for the buck
and fun as well.
mjd invented lightning talks and they are at many confs now, not just lang
ones.
I'd agree with you on python but I can say the Ruby community is packed
full of nutballs and is very entertaining. Probably not too surprising
considering ruby's perlish origins. So perhaps chalk that up to perl too ;)
Written on my phone
On Nov 23, 2012 6:57 PM, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:29:29PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
At the LPW on Saturday I'm giving a talk entitled 25 Years of Perl
Twenty five years is a long time, so inevitably some Perl
hackers have passed away during that period:
Iain Truskett (aka Spoon/Koschei)
Nick Ing-Simmons
Dr Randy
1/ Technical
What CPAN modules deserve to be mentioned as part of Perl's history? Which
Perl infrastructure projects are (or were) important? Are there any other
technical things that need to be covered?
Has the CPAN shell always been there? Discovering that made me life a lot
easier and
Quoting Matt Freake matthew.d.fre...@gmail.com:
1/ Technical
What CPAN modules deserve to be mentioned as part of Perl's history? Which
Perl infrastructure projects are (or were) important? Are there any other
technical things that need to be covered?
Has the CPAN shell always been there?
On that subject, I recall that search.cpan.org sucked at the start and I'm
not sure who fixed it (the search) and who maintained CPAN (and it's
accumulating wonderful -- and sometimes silly -- modules) but yeah it's the
heart of most development ... on the irc topic, will you be mentioning
purl? I
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:09:36PM +, Guinevere Nell wrote:
On that subject, I recall that search.cpan.org sucked at the start and I'm
not sure who fixed it (the search) and who maintained CPAN (and it's
accumulating wonderful -- and sometimes silly -- modules) but yeah it's the
heart of
Quoting Guinevere Nell guinevere.n...@gmail.com:
On that subject, I recall that search.cpan.org sucked at the start and I'm
not sure who fixed it (the search) and who maintained CPAN (and it's
accumulating wonderful -- and sometimes silly -- modules) but yeah it's the
heart of most development
On 22 Nov 2012, at 12:19, Abigail abig...@abigail.be wrote:
A community thing that hasn't been mentioned yet: conference auctions.
(Isn't London.pm still suffering from the outcome of an auction in 2001?)
I consider it an interesting quirk. Interestingly the PHP and python meetups in
london
On 11/22/2012 07:19 AM, Abigail wrote:
I do remember Kevin giving us a tour of CMU, which included the location
of the box that was running purl. This was during one of the first YAPCs,
so indeed no later than 19100.
A community thing that hasn't been mentioned yet: conference auctions.
(Isn't
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:57:52AM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote:
the first yapc in pitt/cmu run by lenzo was in the red. during the
banquet we passed around a (real) hat). we collected over $2k to cover
the shortage.
Actually, the collection was during Kevins closing remarks. The $2k was
On 11/22/2012 12:17 PM, Abigail wrote:
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:57:52AM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote:
the first yapc in pitt/cmu run by lenzo was in the red. during the
banquet we passed around a (real) hat). we collected over $2k to cover
the shortage.
Actually, the collection was during
On 20 Nov 2012, at 16:09, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
[regarding matt's scripts]
If anyone is unaware of the London Perl Mongers' reaction to Matt's scripts,
you should probably read http://www.scriptarchive.com/nms.html
Some mention should be made also of the attempt to rewrite the
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Sam Kington s...@illuminated.co.uk wrote:
Some mention should be made also of the attempt to rewrite the entire Unix
support structure in Perl - things like ls, find, head etc. I don't think
this ever went very far, and it appears to be very difficult to Google
Though there doubtless isn't time for a deatiled history of the
lighter side of Perl culture, for completeness, in addition to
Acme modules, we have: JAPH, Obfu, Golf, Poetry, April Fools.
Some highlights:
JAPH: First JAPH by merlyn 1988, followed later by trickier ones.
Abigail's later
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 09:46:30AM +, Dave Cross wrote:
Finding it harder to trace the history of #perl though. Can anyone
help out there? Even if it's just an idea of when it first started.
I'm thinking Kevin Lenzo would have a good idea.
Oh, and when was irc.perl.org set up?
I'm
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:27:09AM +0100, Abigail wrote:
I started using Perl in 1995, when the main focus on the community was
on Usenet. At that time, it was just comp.lang.perl; the split into
multiple groups was either late 1995, or early 1996. I first joined a
Perl IRC channel in 1997,
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
Finding it harder to trace the history of #perl though. Can anyone help
out there? Even if it's just an idea of when it first started.
Oh, and when was irc.perl.org set up?
EFnet #perl was the 'original' Perl IRC channel -
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 03:50:34AM -0500, David H. Adler wrote:
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:27:09AM +0100, Abigail wrote:
I started using Perl in 1995, when the main focus on the community was
on Usenet. At that time, it was just comp.lang.perl; the split into
multiple groups was either
Quoting Peter Sergeant p...@clueball.com:
Here is a photo of #perl users from 13 years ago!
http://photography.mengwong.com/yapc1999/group-1.html
Similar photo from YAPC 2000 in London
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gmccarroll/49476450/
DAve...
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:15:44AM +, Peter Sergeant wrote:
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
Finding it harder to trace the history of #perl though. Can anyone help
out there? Even if it's just an idea of when it first started.
Oh, and when was
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 09:36:57AM +, Dave Cross wrote:
Similar photo from YAPC 2000 in London
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gmccarroll/49476450/
I was looking at this and going wait, I know I was there... Then I
realized I still had some hair then... :-/
dha
--
David H. Adler -
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 10:31:48AM +0100, Abigail wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 03:50:34AM -0500, David H. Adler wrote:
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:27:09AM +0100, Abigail wrote:
I started using Perl in 1995, when the main focus on the community was
on Usenet. At that time, it was just
On 21/11/12 09:45, David H. Adler wrote:
Here is a photo of #perl users from 13 years ago!
http://photography.mengwong.com/yapc1999/group-1.html
And here's one from 8 years ago.
http://www.panix.com/~dha/test/pix/IMG_2749.JPG
It is important and/or enlightening to wonder why most of you
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:40:26AM +, Dirk Koopman wrote:
On 21/11/12 09:45, David H. Adler wrote:
And here's one from 8 years ago.
http://www.panix.com/~dha/test/pix/IMG_2749.JPG
It is important and/or enlightening to wonder why most of you are
wearing pixie style tinfoil hats? Are the points
On 21/11/12 11:47, Roger Burton West wrote:
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:40:26AM +, Dirk Koopman wrote:
On 21/11/12 09:45, David H. Adler wrote:
And here's one from 8 years ago.
http://www.panix.com/~dha/test/pix/IMG_2749.JPG
It is important and/or enlightening to wonder why most of you are
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:55:43AM +, Dave Cross wrote:
Conferences that need mentioning: TPC, German Perl Workshop (first Perl
conference outside of TPC), YAPC, OSCON. And, considering where
you're going to give the presentation: LPW. 2000 may be an interesting
year: at YAPC::NA 19100,
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 04:09:32PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
Quoting Simon Dick sim...@irrelevant.org:
On 20 November 2012 15:45, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote:
[ snip ]
in that vein you should also mention matt's scripts. evil code but they
helped perl gain massive numbers of
On 19/11/2012 17:29, Dave Cross wrote:
What CPAN modules deserve to be mentioned as part of Perl's history?
Which Perl infrastructure projects are (or were) important? Are there
any other technical things that need to be covered?
I know Tim will not blow his own trumpet but ...
One of the
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
What CPAN modules deserve to be mentioned as part of Perl's history? Which
Perl infrastructure projects are (or were) important? Are there any other
technical things that need to be covered?
Templating modules (embperl,
Quoting Randy J. Ray rj...@blackperl.com:
1/ Technical
What CPAN modules deserve to be mentioned as part of Perl's history?
Which Perl infrastructure projects are (or were) important? Are there
any other technical things that need to be covered?
I'd be sure to mention the strong role Perl
Quoting David H. Adler d...@panix.com:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:29:29PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
At the LPW on Saturday I'm giving a talk entitled 25 Years of Perl.
I have the structure of the talk, and I have worked out most of the
things that I want to cover. But I wanted to make sure
Quoting Jacqui Caren jacqui.ca...@ntlworld.com:
On 19/11/2012 17:29, Dave Cross wrote:
What CPAN modules deserve to be mentioned as part of Perl's history?
Which Perl infrastructure projects are (or were) important? Are there
any other technical things that need to be covered?
I know Tim
Quoting Matt Freake matthew.d.fre...@gmail.com:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
What CPAN modules deserve to be mentioned as part of Perl's history? Which
Perl infrastructure projects are (or were) important? Are there any other
technical things that need
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:29:29PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
At the LPW on Saturday I'm giving a talk entitled 25 Years of Perl.
I have the structure of the talk, and I have worked out most of the
things that I want to cover. But I wanted to make sure that I didn't
miss anything important
November 2012 10:27, Abigail abig...@abigail.be wrote:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:29:29PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
At the LPW on Saturday I'm giving a talk entitled 25 Years of Perl.
I have the structure of the talk, and I have worked out most of the
things that I want to cover. But I wanted
Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
Quoting Chris Benson chr...@ccandc.org:
Back before there were modules: the earliest version I used (3.something)
came with *2p utilities that were useful in their own right and enabled
bootstrapping knowledge from find, sed and especially in my case awk:
Quoting Abigail abig...@abigail.be:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:29:29PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
At the LPW on Saturday I'm giving a talk entitled 25 Years of Perl.
I have the structure of the talk, and I have worked out most of the
things that I want to cover. But I wanted to make sure that I
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
Yeah. Got TT and Mason on my list. Was Embperl ever really important. I
know I have a strong aversion to it (and I think you might also have the
same aversion - engendered by the same project).
That project was the only one
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:29:29PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
At the LPW on Saturday I'm giving a talk entitled 25 Years of Perl
Great idea.
An amusing anecdote from the very early days that illustrates how
Perl attracted some of its early users is that merlyn relentlessly
answered requests
On 20 Nov 2012, at 09:09, Jacqui Caren jacqui.ca...@ntlworld.com wrote:
I know Tim will not blow his own trumpet but ...
One of the biggies was and is DBI.
We take it so much for granted that you could connect to any number of
different database engines with the same perl binary these days,
Quoting Andrew Savige ajsav...@yahoo.com.au:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:29:29PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
At the LPW on Saturday I'm giving a talk entitled 25 Years of Perl
Great idea.
An amusing anecdote from the very early days that illustrates how
Perl attracted some of its early users
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 12:09:34PM +, James Laver wrote:
We take it so much for granted that you could connect to any number of
different database engines with the same perl binary these days, or with any
other programming language too, but really perl led the world here. This was
Was Embperl ever really important.
I know I have a strong aversion to it (and I think you might also
have
the same aversion - engendered by the same project).
That project was the only one where I used a proper templating
system, so I felt obliged to mention it :-) I did struggle to
Quoting David H. Adler d...@panix.com:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:29:29PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
2/ Community
What community initiatives should I cover? Can I mention TPI without
giving some people nightmares? How much detail can I cover about
Perl Mongers? Which conferences deserve a
Andrew == Andrew Savige ajsav...@yahoo.com.au writes:
Andrew An amusing anecdote from the very early days that illustrates how
Andrew Perl attracted some of its early users is that merlyn relentlessly
Andrew answered requests for Unix sed, awk, and shell help with snippets
Andrew of *Perl* code.
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 06:10:42AM -0800, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
Andrew == Andrew Savige ajsav...@yahoo.com.au writes:
Andrew An amusing anecdote from the very early days that illustrates how
Andrew Perl attracted some of its early users is that merlyn relentlessly
Andrew answered
Quoting Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com:
in that vein you should also mention matt's scripts. evil code but
they helped perl gain massive numbers of users. many were kiddies
but some actually learned perl.
Yes. I'm well aware of the effects of Matt's scripts. In fact I think
I may have
Quoting Simon Dick sim...@irrelevant.org:
On 20 November 2012 15:45, Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com wrote:
[ snip ]
in that vein you should also mention matt's scripts. evil code but they
helped perl gain massive numbers of users. many were kiddies but some
actually learned perl.
Dave Cross said:
What parts of Perl's history do you think are important. I'm
particularly interested in two areas.
1/ Technical
2/ Community
FWIW, I think the decision to start with time-based releases of Perl5
was a good one, and probably worth mentioning. Not sure if that should
be
On 11/20/2012 11:00 AM, Dave Cross wrote:
Quoting Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com:
in that vein you should also mention matt's scripts. evil code but
they helped perl gain massive numbers of users. many were kiddies but
some actually learned perl.
Yes. I'm well aware of the effects of
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:22:14AM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote:
On 11/20/2012 11:00 AM, Dave Cross wrote:
Quoting Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com:
in that vein you should also mention matt's scripts. evil code but
they helped perl gain massive numbers of users. many were kiddies but
some
Quoting Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com:
On 11/20/2012 11:00 AM, Dave Cross wrote:
Quoting Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com:
in that vein you should also mention matt's scripts. evil code but
they helped perl gain massive numbers of users. many were kiddies but
some actually learned perl.
Matt Freake matthew.d.fre...@gmail.com writes:
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
Yeah. Got TT and Mason on my list. Was Embperl ever really important. I
know I have a strong aversion to it (and I think you might also have the
same aversion - engendered by
On 20 Nov 2012, at 13:37, Dave Cross d...@dave.org.uk wrote:
[...]
That davorg chap is awesome :-)
We've all known this for years, but didn't want to flatter your ego too much by
saying so :)
Not sure if they would fit on the same league of DBI and TT, but to me LWP
and WWW::Mechanize are also true PERL gems.
On 19/11/2012 17:29, Dave Cross wrote:
What CPAN modules deserve to be mentioned as part of Perl's history?
Which Perl infrastructure projects are (or were) important? Are
On 20 Nov 2012, at 16:30, Abigail abig...@abigail.be wrote:
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:22:14AM -0500, Uri Guttman wrote:
On 11/20/2012 11:00 AM, Dave Cross wrote:
Quoting Uri Guttman u...@stemsystems.com:
in that vein you should also mention matt's scripts. evil code but
they helped perl
On 20/11/12 20:42, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
As did PHP. And the rest is history.
Speaking of which, is it just a folk memory that suggests that the first
'P' in PHP once stood for perl?
On 11/20/12 1:10 PM, Dirk Koopman wrote:
On 20/11/12 20:42, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
As did PHP. And the rest is history.
Speaking of which, is it just a folk memory that suggests that the first
'P' in PHP once stood for perl?
I thought, for the longest time, that PHP had originally been
On 11/20/2012 04:17 PM, Randy J. Ray wrote:
On 11/20/12 1:10 PM, Dirk Koopman wrote:
On 20/11/12 20:42, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
As did PHP. And the rest is history.
Speaking of which, is it just a folk memory that suggests that the first
'P' in PHP once stood for perl?
I thought, for the
On 21/11/2012, at 8:17 AM, Randy J. Ray wrote:
On 11/20/12 1:10 PM, Dirk Koopman wrote:
On 20/11/12 20:42, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
As did PHP. And the rest is history.
Speaking of which, is it just a folk memory that suggests that the first
'P' in PHP once stood for perl?
I
On 21/11/2012, at 8:29 AM, Uri Guttman wrote:
On 11/20/2012 04:17 PM, Randy J. Ray wrote:
On 11/20/12 1:10 PM, Dirk Koopman wrote:
On 20/11/12 20:42, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
As did PHP. And the rest is history.
Speaking of which, is it just a folk memory that suggests that the first
On 20/11/12 21:17, Randy J. Ray wrote:
On 11/20/12 1:10 PM, Dirk Koopman wrote:
On 20/11/12 20:42, DAVID HODGKINSON wrote:
As did PHP. And the rest is history.
Speaking of which, is it just a folk memory that suggests that the first
'P' in PHP once stood for perl?
I thought, for the
At the LPW on Saturday I'm giving a talk entitled 25 Years of Perl.
I have the structure of the talk, and I have worked out most of the
things that I want to cover. But I wanted to make sure that I didn't
miss anything important.
So I thought I'd turn to the london.pm hivemind. What parts
1/ Technical
What CPAN modules deserve to be mentioned as part of Perl's history?
Which Perl infrastructure projects are (or were) important? Are there
any other technical things that need to be covered?
I'd be sure to mention the strong role Perl played in the emergence of
CGI applications--
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:29:29PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
1/ Technical
What CPAN modules deserve to be mentioned as part of Perl's history?
Which Perl infrastructure projects are (or were) important? Are
there any other technical things that need to be covered?
Back before there were
Chris == Chris Benson chr...@ccandc.org writes:
Chris I think the early days of comp.lang.perl (before the split) with
informed,
Chris entertaining helpful commentary from some of stalwarts was also key
Chris in the rise of Perl.
I believe there was also a perl mailing list before that.
--
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:29:29PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
At the LPW on Saturday I'm giving a talk entitled 25 Years of Perl.
I have the structure of the talk, and I have worked out most of the
things that I want to cover. But I wanted to make sure that I didn't
miss anything important
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:12 PM, David H. Adler d...@panix.com wrote:
If memory serves, YAS didn't become TPF. They were separate entities,
as was Perl Mongers. At a certain point, Kevin decided he didn't want to
run YAS anymore and brian decided not to run Perl Mongers anymore
TPF also
On 11/20/2012 04:57 AM, Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes wrote:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 5:12 PM, David H. Adler d...@panix.com wrote:
If memory serves, YAS didn't become TPF. They were separate entities,
as was Perl Mongers. At a certain point, Kevin decided he didn't want to
run YAS anymore and
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 08:12:46PM -0500, David H. Adler wrote:
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 05:29:29PM +, Dave Cross wrote:
At the LPW on Saturday I'm giving a talk entitled 25 Years of Perl.
I have the structure of the talk, and I have worked out most of the
things that I want to cover
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