Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread James Laver
On 27 Mar 2014, at 23:42, Wendy G.A. van Dijk nl...@wendy.org wrote: Scanners I never had luck with scanner support on Windows XP, always stupid errors. This behaviour of idiots working on drivers at the scanner manufacturers is continued for support in Ubuntu. It just sucks always.

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Raphael Mankin
On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 09:55 +, david wrote: Thread drifting for a moment, do folks have any recommendations for where to buy reasonably priced, legal Win 7 licenses ? I really should upgrade my compatability platform... Thanks From your local, private computer shop, not PC WOrld,

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread david
...@mankin.org.uk Date: 28/03/2014 10:17 (GMT+00:00) To david da...@chromiq.org,London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers london.pm@london.pm.org Subject Re: XP-Replacement for Parents On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 09:55 +, david wrote: Thread drifting for a moment, do folks have any recommendations for where

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Gareth Harper
london.pm@london.pm.org Subject Re: XP-Replacement for Parents On Fri, 2014-03-28 at 09:55 +, david wrote: Thread drifting for a moment, do folks have any recommendations for where to buy reasonably priced, legal Win 7 licenses ? I really should upgrade my compatability platform

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Smylers
James Laver writes: On 27 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote: Ubuntu has built in VNC support. If you can walk your mother through setting up reverse SSH tunnel*, you’d be able to do it for her, remotely. James * Well, it’s only one command. You’d need a bounce box

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Smylers
Gordon Banner writes: I do not use Windows, but AFAIK XP-Win7 is an upgrade, not a wipe and re-install. From the back of the Win7 upgrade pack: If you are upgrading from XP, you will need to back up your files and settings, perform a clean install and then reinstall your files, settings

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Fred Youhanaie
On 27/03/14 17:01, Smylers wrote: Fred Youhanaie writes: On 27/03/14 11:48, Smylers wrote: • Ubuntu: The OS will install, but I don't know if Mum's scanner will work with it, and I'm pretty sure it won't work in the same way, where pressing a physical button on the scanner causes

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Paul Makepeace
On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:55 AM, david da...@chromiq.org wrote: Thread drifting for a moment, do folks have any recommendations for where to buy reasonably priced, legal Win 7 licenses ? I really should upgrade my compatability platform... The trick is to go for the OEM license. This is

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-28 Thread Gordon Banner
On 28/03/2014 21:01, Paul Makepeace wrote: On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 2:55 AM, david da...@chromiq.org wrote: Thread drifting for a moment, do folks have any recommendations for where to buy reasonably priced, legal Win 7 licenses ? I really should upgrade my compatability platform... The

XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Smylers
My mum has a laptop running Windows XP, which she's happy with except that support for XP ends on April 8th, and she's asked me what she should do. The only Windows computer I've ever owned ran NT4, so I'm in turn seeking your wisdom. I think Mum uses web-based stuff, WordPerfect, and scanning.

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Alex Balhatchet
• Ubuntu: The OS will install, but I don't know if Mum's scanner will work with it, and I'm pretty sure it won't work in the same way, where pressing a physical button on the scanner causes some HP application to open on the desktop with the scanned document. This may work quite well.

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:48:57AM +, Smylers wrote: • Newer Windows: Would the latest Windows run on her hardware? Even if it did, would it run her several-years-old version of WordPerfect? Or would a newer-than-XP-but-not-the-most-recent version of Windows be better? In which

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Raphael Mankin
But throw away Ubuntu's Unity and install xfce4 or gnome-core instead. I find that full gnome installs too much stuff that I do not want. I don't know which window manager lubuntu uses, but you can install them all side-by side and use the one that you are most comfortable with. On Thu,

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Mike Woods
On 27/03/14 12:20, Raphael Mankin wrote: But throw away Ubuntu's Unity and install xfce4 or gnome-core instead. I find that full gnome installs too much stuff that I do not want. Mint, all day long :D Mike Woods

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Mike Woods
On 27/03/14 11:48, Smylers wrote: My mum has a laptop running Windows XP, which she's happy with except that support for XP ends on April 8th, and she's asked me what she should do. The only Windows computer I've ever owned ran NT4, so I'm in turn seeking your wisdom. I think Mum uses web-based

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Andrew Beverley
On Thu, 2014-03-27 at 11:48 +, Smylers wrote: Options that I can see: • Ubuntu: I moved my parents onto Ubuntu (now Mint) after getting fed up with many support calls with things not working in Windows. They took to Ubuntu with no problems at all, and I now got far fewer requests to help

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread James Laver
On 27 Mar 2014, at 12:07, Alex Balhatchet ka...@slackwise.net wrote: On another topic if you want something that looks like Windows XP but acts like Ubuntu I've read good things about Lubuntu[2]. In this vein, many Linuxes ship LXDE now. My old favourite foresight does, but there aren’t as

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Bite the bullet and get a Mac. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:37 PM, James Laver james.la...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 Mar 2014, at 12:07, Alex Balhatchet ka...@slackwise.net wrote: On another topic if you want something that looks like Windows XP but acts like Ubuntu I've read good things

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Smylers
Mike Woods writes: On 27/03/14 11:48, Smylers wrote: My mum has a laptop running Windows XP, which she's happy with except that support for XP ends on April 8th, and she's asked me what she should do. The only Windows computer I've ever owned ran NT4, so I'm in turn seeking your wisdom.

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Smylers
Andrew Beverley writes: On Thu, 2014-03-27 at 11:48 +, Smylers wrote: Options that I can see: • Ubuntu: I moved my parents onto Ubuntu after getting fed up with many support calls with things not working in Windows. They took to Ubuntu with no problems at all, Yeah, I'm sure

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Smylers
Alex Balhatchet writes: • Ubuntu: The OS will install, but I don't know if Mum's scanner will work with it, and I'm pretty sure it won't work in the same way, where pressing a physical button on the scanner causes some HP application to open on the desktop with the scanned

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Avleen Vig
+1 to this. As technically inclined people we want others to use Linux and have it be a viable desktop. Maybe in some cases it is. But OSX is a much better one, is very well supported, and also just works in every way that matters. She'll still have libreoffice available as well as a large

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Smylers
Dave Hodgkinson writes: Bite the bullet and get a Mac. It isn't clear if this suggestion is for James (whose message it was in reply to), me, or my mum. If Mum, then I don't feel it's entirely accurate to say that the only reason she doesn't already have a Mac is through reluctance to pay for

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Smylers
Raphael Mankin wrote directly to me, but has given me permission to reply on the list: On Thu, 2014-03-27 at 11:48 +, Smylers wrote: • Ubuntu: The OS will install, but I don't know if Mum's scanner will work with it, and I'm pretty sure it won't work in the same way, where

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 03:21:02PM +, Smylers wrote: Note my concerns weren't about the OS's user interface, but scanner support and a couple of decades' worth of WordPerfect documents. Assuming that Ubuntu supports the scanner, WordPerfect could run inside a WinXP VM. You might even be

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Smylers
Fred Youhanaie writes: On 27/03/14 11:48, Smylers wrote: • Ubuntu: The OS will install, but I don't know if Mum's scanner will work with it, and I'm pretty sure it won't work in the same way, where pressing a physical button on the scanner causes some HP application to open on

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread James Laver
On 27 Mar 2014, at 17:01, Smylers smyl...@stripey.com wrote: Yeah, if I end up doing this in person that'd be a sensible way to proceed. Or even otherwise. Ubuntu has built in VNC support. If you can walk your mother through setting up reverse SSH tunnel*, you’d be able to do it for her,

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Smylers
David Cantrell writes: On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 03:21:02PM +, Smylers wrote: Note my concerns weren't about the OS's user interface, but scanner support and a couple of decades' worth of WordPerfect documents. Assuming that Ubuntu supports the scanner, WordPerfect could run inside a

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Raphael Mankin
On Thu, 2014-03-27 at 17:34 +, Smylers wrote: David Cantrell writes: On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 03:21:02PM +, Smylers wrote: Note my concerns weren't about the OS's user interface, but scanner support and a couple of decades' worth of WordPerfect documents. Assuming that

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Gordon Banner
Thoughts at random... I do not use Windows, but AFAIK XP-Win7 is an upgrade, not a wipe and re-install. From the back of the Win7 upgrade pack: If you are upgrading from XP, you will need to back up your files and settings, perform a clean install and then reinstall your files, settings

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread Wendy G.A. van Dijk
At 04:21 PM 3/27/2014, Smylers wrote: Note my concerns weren't about the OS's user interface, but scanner support and a couple of decades' worth of WordPerfect documents. I'm on Ubunty, I switched over from Windows XP several years ago, and I do have quite an extensive amount of WordPerfect

Re: XP-Replacement for Parents

2014-03-27 Thread David Cantrell
On 27/03/2014 17:34, Smylers wrote: David Cantrell writes: On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 03:21:02PM +, Smylers wrote: Note my concerns weren't about the OS's user interface, but scanner support and a couple of decades' worth of WordPerfect documents. Assuming that Ubuntu supports the scanner,