Re: MO's attacks

2003-10-15 Thread Bernd Haegemann
Bonjour André! instance, we have in France Les Editions du CNRS, which release french lute composers - that's is not quite as convenient as a fac similé- but at a reasonable price : I have never seen any xerox copy of the CNTS editions ... all the lute players I know just buy them. Then you only

Re: Dowland

2003-10-15 Thread Roman Turovsky
Do we know if the Lachrimrae were ever done as a dance? Or were they purely an instrumental performance piece? Would you also consider a choreography to JSBach's Agnus Dei form the b-minor Mass RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://turovsky.org http://polyhymnion.org

Re: Re: Dowland

2003-10-15 Thread corun
Roman wrote: Would you also consider a choreography to JSBach's Agnus Dei form the b-minor Mass I'm not sure I understand what you're implying here. Craig

RE: Re: Dowland

2003-10-15 Thread Fossum, Arthur
Given the popularity, I see no reason to conclude that it was not danced to. Any evidence? -Arthur Fossum

RE: Re: Dowland

2003-10-15 Thread Fossum, Arthur
Also here is a site with the steps to the pavanne and other dances http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/dihtml/diessay2.html -Original Message- From: Fossum, Arthur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 8:36 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Re: Dowland Given the

RE: Re: Dowland

2003-10-15 Thread Chris Schaub
This points to a big problem in music scholarship -- where common knowledge meets actual hard facts. Common knowledge approach: people have somehow always found a way to dance to popular music; popular music is played at events where there is likely to be dancing; king's make request and court

Re: ABCtab Archive

2003-10-15 Thread Ed Durbrow
Use the email version of the program. Paste an ABCtab file in the body of an email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will get an EPS file back in a few seconds. I use ghostscript and EPS2pdf for system X to convert this to pdf, but photoshop can usually open it and save as a jpg. I just

Re: The cost of lute music

2003-10-15 Thread Martin Shepherd
- Original Message - From: Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute Net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 October 2003 00:17 Subject: The cost of lute music snip Boone was musical successor to the dichotic phenomenon Blind Tom, who, though said to be semi-idiotic, repeated the most complex

Re: Dowland

2003-10-15 Thread Taco Walstra
On Wednesday 15 October 2003 15:19, Chris Schaub wrote: ! Also, just because we think a piece is virtuosic does not mean Dowland or his contemporaries did! That last sentence is known: already in his time dowland was known as a virtuosic player appreciated by several members of the upper

RE: Dowland

2003-10-15 Thread Hernán Mouro
Dance music generally gives way to just-for-listening music, doesn't it? Look at jazz, tango, even rock'n'roll. I have no idea if the Lachrimae was supposed to be danced or not, but it seems logical to think pavanas and galliards also developed into just-for-listening works. What about bourrees,

Re: The cost of lute music

2003-10-15 Thread Howard Posner
Arthur Ness (boston) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's an idiot savant in one of Steinbeck's short stories, Oh yes. Of Mice and Men. Wasn't he called Bear? You're confusing Steinbeck's tales told about two idiots, if I can paraphrase Shakespeare. Lenny in Of Mice and Men has enormous

Re: Dowland

2003-10-15 Thread Tony Chalkley
To go back to the original message... Do we know if the Lachrimrae were ever done as a dance? I certainly don't, but it seems rather optimistic to hope for a journal/diary entry or a dance list saying that they did, and the absence of such a document certainly doesn't prove that they didn't.

RE: Dowland

2003-10-15 Thread André Blanc
Is there any recording of Lachrimae ever made in a dancing spirit ? Not to my kwnoledge Will it more natural to play a very famous tune in a dancing form or on the contrary in a much estetic view in order to get the quintessence of the harmony and the strenght of the word ? Why top the

Re: L'vov lute manuscript (Was Re: MO's attacks

2003-10-15 Thread Arthur Ness (boston)
FROM: Matanya Ophee, INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DATE: 10/13/03 5:02 PM Re: Re: MO's attacks snip MOrphee woteUnfortunately for him and for his misguided predatory philosophy, that is far from being the case. We should be grateful to him and his ilk for the fact that the Franko

Re: Re: Dowland

2003-10-15 Thread corun
Tony wrote: To go back to the original message... Do we know if the Lachrimrae were ever done as a dance? I certainly don't, but it seems rather optimistic to hope for a journal/diary entry or a dance list saying that they did, and the absence of such a document certainly doesn't prove

Re: Re: Dowland

2003-10-15 Thread Vance Wood
Craig: I think you have been dissed, impugned, and generally condescended to, but I could be wrong. Personally; I think it's a valid question, understanding that the pieces in the Suite are dance pieces. If yes what is the evidence and all that implies, if no, then the arguments about

Virtuosity (was Dowland)

2003-10-15 Thread Candace Magner
Chris Schaub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I have a problem comparing our modern idea of virtuosic with what we suppose it meant in the Renaissance -- did that word even exist. and Howard Posner replied: You mean in English? Maybe. The OED records use of the word starting in the

Re: The cost of lute music

2003-10-15 Thread Arthur Ness (boston)
Donatella sent me a message saying she thought that perhaps the price in quatrains was too low. I really can't say. I don;'t remember the original message, but I think the price came from the catalogue of his library by Ferdinand Columbus. Alas almst everything in his liobrary was destroyed in