Weiss record by Eduardo Eguez

2004-05-03 Thread Paolo Declich
Dear all, after 1 year or more of searching, even directly to E Lucean le Stelle = record company (they responded to me thata the CD was temporaly = unavalaible), I could find a copy (this one is for personal delectation = only, the second one has been already ordered...for a distant friend) = of

Re: FaSoLa / Shape-Note singing in New Jersey

2004-05-03 Thread Jon Murphy
Arthur, and list, Update on shape-note. I've emailed the convention and they gave me a web site (http://mysite.verizon.net/gssh). A bit more than three quarters of the way down the home page are two sample songs you can play to hear their sound (and there is a lot of info on the Sacred Harp -

S.L.Weiss Lute Concertos.

2004-05-03 Thread Arthur Ness (boston)
This should be on the regular lute list, as well as the baroque list. Stone's edition of the concertos will soon appear from the presses of a major U.S. commercial publiaher, I understand. ajn -- Forwarded Message -- From: Roman Turovsky, INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TO:

Re: FaSoLa / Shape-Note singing in New Jersey

2004-05-03 Thread Arthur Ness (boston)
Yes, Jon, this is music for that old-time religion. I expect the practitioners today constitute a cult following, like those drum and bugle corps who choreograph all their march steps, or the Barbershop Quartet Society. I do know that Sacred Harp refers to an early collection of shape note

Stupid query from beginner

2004-05-03 Thread mark jordan
Hello all, I'm a relative newcomer to the world of luting and this is my first venture into this absorbing forum. My query is this; I came to the lute, as I imagine most people do, from the guitar and am loving it. When playing the guitar I use a support known as an 'A' frame. It sticks on the

Re: Stupid query from beginner

2004-05-03 Thread Roman Turovsky
I've seen other players using a strap round the shoulders, but don't see that this would stop the thing turning in my lap due to the round back. The only other thing that helps is to jam the thing against a cigarette packet in my trouser pocket and I'm planning to give up soon. Thoughts

Re: Stupid query from beginner

2004-05-03 Thread corun
Jez wrote: Hello all, When playing the guitar I use a support known as an 'A' frame. It sticks on the side of the instrument with suckers and rests on the knee with a velcro-adjusted strap, holding the thing at the right height and angle. After struggling to hold the lute equally

Re: Stupid query from beginner

2004-05-03 Thread Joe Mayes
Hello Mark My advice is to forget all about your disapproval concerns. If the a-frame works for you - use it. My wife, who is an accomplished played of many years, uses a Gitano to good effect. I have never felt the need to use anything at all of the renaissance lute ( Larger lutes are a

Re: Stupid query from beginner

2004-05-03 Thread Taco Walstra
On Monday 03 May 2004 13:42, mark jordan wrote: My query is; how much is this going to be disapproved of? Are artificial supports ever used, or should I keep this thing strictly secret? There is no such thing as disapproval: if it works for you and you're happy with it , you should use it. I

Re: FaSoLa / Shape-Note singing in New Jersey

2004-05-03 Thread David Rastall
On Monday, May 3, 2004, at 04:31 AM, Jon Murphy wrote: ...I warn you, don't play the music if your taste is narrow. They have but one volume, shouting. But if you listen carefully you'll hear some musical values of an old form. The harmonies aren't complex, but they do move within the

Re: FaSoLa / Shape-Note singing in New Jersey

2004-05-03 Thread David Rastall
On Monday, May 3, 2004, at 07:33 AM, Arthur Ness (boston) wrote: Yes, Jon, this is music for that old-time religion. I expect the practitioners today constitute a cult following, like those drum and bugle corps who choreograph all their march steps, or the Barbershop Quartet Society. The

Re: Astrologos

2004-05-03 Thread Eugene Braig
At 05:28 AM 05/02/2004 -0400, Jon Murphy wrote: OK, find a copy and photo it, provided that you have no other source but one that wants to monopolize it. Anyone who spends years, or effort, to find a lost piece deserves the fruit of his labors. But just having a copy of something doesn't make that

Re: FaSoLa / Shape-Note singing in New Jersey

2004-05-03 Thread Howard Posner
You wrote: Some of the professional choral groups such as the Hilliard Ensemble have recorded shape-note singing, but most of the fasola community laugh at them. To bring a trained voice into a shape-note sing, or to perform that music in any way, is to completely miss the point. His

history of frets

2004-05-03 Thread bill
dear all - earlier, on the list there was a question concerning the origin of frets. an informed individual on one of the oud lists left this in response to my request for documentation: frets are usually not depicted in miniatures. They are omnipresent, however, in islamic theoretical

RE: Stupid Query

2004-05-03 Thread timothy motz
In the US, you can buy in auto supply stores what is alleged to be chamois leather, to be used in polishing cars. I don't think the leather came from anywhere in the vicinity of a chamois, but it is leather with a slight nap and it does help with slipping. One thing I found with straps is that a

Re: history of frets

2004-05-03 Thread Roman Turovsky
again, if i may, i'd like to pose a question concerning the oud's swan's neck and lute's angular peg box. does anyone know why the former was abandoned during the development of the european lute It wasn't. Some lutes have curved pegboxes, notably Dutch 12-course Lutes, mandoras, Ukrainian

Re: FaSoLa / Shape-Note singing in New Jersey

2004-05-03 Thread Marcus Merrin
Quite right. I am sure if Billings could have secured trained singers, he would have welcomed them with open arms. With Sacred Harp, the Music and The Event are very different things. The music is just what the printed page says it is, and you may do with it what you will. However a

Re: Stupid Query

2004-05-03 Thread Mathias Rösel
Every now and then I go and get myself a new rubber for window cleaning as the old one has become to dry, dusty, and slippery. I put it between my belly and the lute's belly so that we both have rest :) -- Best wishes, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5, 28199 Bremen, Deutschland/

RE: Stupid Query

2004-05-03 Thread Arto Wikla
Dear Tim, On Mon, 3 May 2004, you wrote: One thing I found with straps is that a standard guitar strap is much too stiff and heavy for the lute to hang from it properly. I made a strap from cloth ribbon and it works much better. This is true for the smaller lutes: With my tiny soprano lute

Re: FaSoLa / Shape-Note singing in New Jersey

2004-05-03 Thread David Rastall
Once again, the academic lute world shows how inept they are at doing anything beyond studying what other people do naturally. No, Howard is not quite right. He doesn't know what he's talking about. What he knows about the point of shape-note singing events is precisely zero. But that

Re: history of frets

2004-05-03 Thread bill
thank you roman - do you think one style of peg box has a structural advantage over the other or can the curvature of the swan's neck peg box be considered simply as oriental embellishment? ciao - bill On Lunedì, mag 3, 2004, at 19:18 Europe/Rome, Roman Turovsky wrote: again, if i may, i'd

Re: Stupid Query

2004-05-03 Thread chriswilke
Mathias, I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about. Can you be more specific (perhaps we don't have this sort of thing in the U.S.?). This could also have a VERY different and highly disturbing meaning in America! CW --- Mathias Rösel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every now and then I

Lute queries

2004-05-03 Thread RichardTomBeck
Vance, The suede leather suggestion I made also solves the problem of the left hand. As the lute is supported both on the knees and the chest/stomach, it is unable to move and stays in whatever position one wishes to have it, which means that the left hand is in no way forced to support the

Re: Astro Logos

2004-05-03 Thread Arthur Ness (boston)
Yes, AstroLogos is simply re-selling the UMI product. UMI (now ProQuest) in Ann Arbor is the only firm authorized by the copyright owners to reproduce the HUP edition oof FdaM's works. UMI's price $157, AstroLogos's price $190. Even at $157price it is less expensive than gathering together all

Re: Collected Works of Francesco da Milano Ness

2004-05-03 Thread Arthur Ness (boston)
The mentioned reprint edition offered by AstroLogos for $190 is simply the ProQuest (formerly UMI) product, not a separate repinting. -- Forwarded Message -- From: beau, INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: ajness, 71162,751 DATE: 5/3/04 5:32 PM RE: Re: Collected Works of

Re: Stupid query from beginner

2004-05-03 Thread Vance Wood
Mark: Just a side note on holding the Lute. There is much said about the right hand etc. but no one has mentioned the left. I have found that unless you have the Lute well supported and stable, independent of the left hand, you will lose much of your range and motion in that hand because you

Stupid query from beginner

2004-05-03 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Mark, It has often been said that the only stupid question is the one which never gets asked. There is no such thing as disapproval in the lute world. There are almost as many ways to hold the lute as there are lute players. You need to find what is most comfortable for you, bearing in mind

Re: Stupid query from beginner

2004-05-03 Thread arckon
Mark-- It took me many years to find a truly secure and comfortable way to hold my lute. I'm on the tall side, and long in the torso, so I've usually had trouble supporting the lute on a thigh and having my arms at a workable position. I used a footrest, but it had to be rather high. A

Re: Stupid query from beginner

2004-05-03 Thread bill
On Lunedì, mag 3, 2004, at 13:42 Europe/Rome, mark jordan wrote: The only other thing that helps is to jam the thing against a cigarette packet in my trouser pocket and I'm planning to give up soon. according to the spam i get, there are pills that will help you replace that cigarette bulge

Renaissance Wedding

2004-05-03 Thread Guitar Lute
Hi, Anyone able to help this person? Please respond to Trevor at his email address. Hello, My Name is Trevor Gillette and my fiancé Heather and I are having a renaissance themed wedding this September 26, 2004. I was sent a link to your website and I would like to get some more information