More or less this is what it says...
It has already been a long time since excellent lutes were built in
Bologna, and maybe for their long shape similar to a pear that make them
sweet, maybe for their wide ribs? that make them harmonious, anyway, for
their goodness they were kept in high
Dear any Italian speakers on this list,
Not quite, but I try nevertheless.
Since many years finest quality lutes are made in Bologna. They were
made longish, pear-shaped, broad ribbed to sound as well sweet as
harmonious. (I don't quite understand the l'uno/l'altro thing here, so
I'm not
Duncan, you are right about the l'uno/l'altro part. Thank you!
Another version:
Since many years finest quality lutes were made in Bologna. Whether it
is because of their longish shape similar to a pear, or perhaps
because of their wide ribs, one of which made their sound sweet, the
Dear Gernot and Duncan,
Thank you both SO MUCH for your help; I was able to get the gist of it, but
I really wanted to know more precisely what was being said - or rather, more
precisely what it was that I was misunderstanding Unfortunately, in the
LS journal translation by Stanley Buetens,
What evidence is there for the theorbo being used in Spain?
Rob
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There's an article on oud-making in Iraq here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/01/world/middleeast/01oud.html?_r=1hporef=slogin
Tom
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La Nopce de Gallot - Barbe MS p.85
Rob will provide the reference, I'm sure, but isn't there a piece of
Scottish lute music called haste to the wedding?
Both rather short, I'm afraid - too much haste.
Martin
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Dear Rob:
Sorry for the delay in response to your comments. I wish I had more time.
I'll try to offer some clarity to my prior post.
1. How can you say that you 'can state this without reservation' that
'everyone in the sixteenth century who was fortunate enough to lay hands on
a lute
Dear Arto,
kindly contribute instead at:
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Best Wishes
G.
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On 5/1/2008, Gernot
Not much - but there are some references to the instrument being used as a
continuo instrument by wealthier establishments.
There is an article on the subject by Francisco Valdivia in the Sociedad de
la Vihuela's journal Hispanica lyre - in Spanish of course.
Monica
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In the DICCIONARIO DE INSTRUMENTOS MUSICALES, Barcelona 2001, under
'tiorba', the author of it, Ramón Andrés, after mentioning an inventar
of possesions of Felipe II, the king of Spain, where two theorbos
figure, he tells that culteran poets employed it in its poems because it
was considered
Dear Ron,
Just a short note in support of your point: as I am sure
you will remember, the lute instructions in the Petrucci
prints are entitled 'Regole per quelli che non sanno cantare' -
i.e. for those who don't know how to sing. Petrucci and his
lutenist contributors clearly expected to sell
Thanks to Manolo and Monica. The answer seems to be 'not much'. Mainly
viols, keyboards and guitars for continuo. I suppose the same in Portugal.
Rob
2008/5/1 Manolo Laguillo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In the DICCIONARIO DE INSTRUMENTOS MUSICALES, Barcelona 2001, under
'tiorba', the author of it,
Or exactly the opposite- that the ability to sing was far from prevalent.
RT
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Dear Ron,
Just a short note in support
To All:
Without getting too tedious or serious about this subject, it seems people are
missing a major point: Everyone who was educated in the 16th century was
educated in music. It was one of the seven liberal arts (among the quadrivium
of sciences), and the practice of music was _not_
Dear Ron,
To play the devil's advocate..
I doubt if music for the average 21st century teenager is any less important
than it was in 15??. I don't think they would see it as merely an extra.
All the best
Mark
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On May 1, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Mark Wheeler wrote:
To play the devil's advocate..
I doubt if music for the average 21st century teenager is any less
important
than it was in 15??. I don't think they would see it as merely an
extra.
Ron's point is that everyone in some levels of
On Thu, 1 May 2008, The Other wrote:
What ever happened for the quest to sing/play the one perfect note?
Or maybe that's a modern quest. Just musing...
The Other Stephen Stubbs
Even today Ned Rorem tried; one note just does not cut it. Besides, the
main problem with a lute is that it
Dear Howard,
There certainly is a difference, but I still find the words merely consume
to be a somewhat degrading term for other peoples musical experience.
My problem was with the following passage...
Music was even more important 500 years ago, only it was played by real
people as a part of
Mark,
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My problem was with the following passage...
Music was even more important 500 years ago, only it was played by real
people as a part of daily life.
I am not sure how we can say music was more important 500 years ago.
But art
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My problem was with the following passage...
Music was even more important 500 years ago, only it was played by real
people as a part of daily life.
I am not sure how we can say music was more important 500 years ago.
This is why we have philosophers and other great
Mark wrote...
Even today Ned Rorem tried; one note just does not cut it. Besides, the
main problem with a lute is that it lacks a leg that shines.
Are we leading on to the cello-pin thread again?
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
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Wow Chris it seems you are a real 19th century man, all these nice simple
compartments for music - Art Music, Folk Music etc
I personally don't think that any of these compartments work for music from
the 16th century or for music of the 21st century.
I find your criticisms of rock music
Sorry, I should have attributed this to Peter N.
Even today Ned Rorem tried; one note just does not cut it. Besides, the
main problem with a lute is that it lacks a leg that shines.
Are we leading on to the cello-pin thread again with this one?
Best Wishes
Ron (UK)
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Dear lutenists,
the eve of 1st May is kind of party day here north. My mails about the
torture by the US of A. was affected by that fact. I do really know that
the possible crimes of the US government really have nothing to do with
the lute list! So my sincere apologies for my mis-use of the
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Dear Arto,
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Best Wishes
Dear Goran (and the dear List),
thanks for the idea, but here in the Lute List I am talking with my
friends, many of them are friends for nearly 20
In other words; I'm sorry I mentioned it but as long as I did let me add a
few more faggots to the fire. Why don't you just stop? You have no idea
how many people you offend Arto.
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