[LUTE] Forlorn Hope

2008-06-02 Thread Peter Jones-RR
Dear Luters, I played a concert with a singer on Saturday and was chatting to a member of the audience afterwards who had an interest in military history. He was interested in title of the Forlorn Hope Fancy by Dowland and told me something I didn't know about it. Apparently, the Forlorn Hope was

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo sizes (was Choosing Strings)

2008-06-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Or to wish away historical evidence for theorbo sizes.. --- On Sun, 1/6/08, howard posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: howard posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LUTE] Theorbo sizes (was Choosing Strings) To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, 1 June, 2008, 10:09 PM

[LUTE] Re: Forlorn Hope

2008-06-02 Thread G. Crona
This has been covered before, see: http://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg22831.html G. - Original Message - From: Peter Jones-RR [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 10:01 AM Subject: [LUTE] Forlorn Hope Dear

[LUTE] Re: theorbo sizes; theorbo definitions

2008-06-02 Thread David Tayler
Exactly-- the distinction is a modern one, the historical one semi-interchangeable based on time region. The only way to define an archlute as distinct from a theorbo is to ignore the myriad historical examples where the terms are used interchangeably. This distinction is similar to calling

[LUTE] Re: These new network sites

2008-06-02 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Dear Peter, I aa just coming back from Norwich where I collected a lute from David Van Edward and he told me thet you lived nearby ! Next time I go there I would be very glad to meet you. After my lightning visit to Norwich, I also dropped an email to Ian Harwood about his forthcoming

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: Double headed 12c/ loaded/Demi-filé

2008-06-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
If significantly lower string tensions are employed than those commonly used nowadays, a plain gut high twist bass can sound fine without requiring loaded strings (which may, or may not, have existed). Of course one needs to pluck much closer to the bridge than is the common modern fashion

[LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings

2008-06-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
How do do we (ie you) know, without prejudging the issue, that 1) the actual range of sizes of surviving instruments is much larger This implies you are able to identify double re-entrant instruments from single (not to mention archlutes)- which may indeed be smaller; 2) 99 cm is

[LUTE] Re: These new network sites

2008-06-02 Thread Peter Forrester
on 22/5/08 8:14 pm, Rob MacKillop at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what do we think of the new 'social network' sites? There is one for lute, one for cittern and one for early guitars/vihuelas. Some have written to me saying they are worried that this list might stop running, but I don't

[LUTE] Re: Lute songs

2008-06-02 Thread Christopher Stetson
Apparently, as a historical note, Mr. Alison's Psalms of David Set In Meter for four voices and broken consort (sorry for the modernized spelling. I don't have the book in front of me, and don't want to fake it.) was one of the two books carried to the new world by my ancestors on the

[LUTE] Re: These new network sites

2008-06-02 Thread Rob MacKillop
Very nicely said, Jean-Pierre! Rob On 02/06/2008, Jean-Marie Poirier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Peter, I aa just coming back from Norwich where I collected a lute from David Van Edward and he told me thet you lived nearby ! Next time I go there I would be very glad to meet you. After

[LUTE] Re: Double headed 12c/loaded/Low tension/Toroidal

2008-06-02 Thread Anthony Hind
Martyn As you will probably know from previous postings, I am very interested in this string-type question, and I have given much thought to it, which, of course, is no guarantee, and I don't have the experience in lute making, and therefore, in lute stringing that you obvioulsy have, so

[LUTE] Krakow SAM 2008

2008-06-02 Thread Jerzy Zak
Dear Liste, Although late, I’d like to let you know of the next – 10-th Summer Music Academy Krakow (Poland) 2008 http://www.amuz.krakow.pl/en/?web=linki Below there are esential info from the Academy’s web page concerning the cources. To that I might add, that the Jagiellonian Library in

[LUTE] Re: Double headed 12c/loaded/Low tension/Toroidal

2008-06-02 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Anthony, I'm by no means trying to argue against loaded strings (in fact I like the idea and am almost convinced), but we need to guard against hasty judgements when there is a possible alternative. Lower tension basses mean, of course, thinner strings and thin enough to go through the small

[LUTE] Re: Choosing Strings

2008-06-02 Thread howard posner
On Jun 2, 2008, at 2:06 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: How do do we (ie you) know, without prejudging the issue, that 1) the actual range of sizes of surviving instruments is much larger This implies you are able to identify double re-entrant instruments from single (not to mention

[LUTE] Re: Forlorn Hope

2008-06-02 Thread David Tayler
Forlorn hope is possibly a musical pun drawn from the text of lacrimae, where the the two cadences under the words forlorn and hope in the song pivot a half step apart, and settle a half step apart, as in mi fa morire of lasso vita mia. dt At 03:10 AM 6/2/2008, you wrote: This has been