[LUTE] playing technique of baroque mandolin

2010-05-16 Thread Susanne Herre
Dear Davide, Thank you for your comments! I still think we can not be so sure about certain things because we don't have much evidence. - to my knowledge - there is no evidence at all that it could be played with a quill before the late XVIIIth century. Do you have any evidence against

[LUTE] Re: Piccinini-thumb-index

2010-05-16 Thread Lex van Sante
Hi Susanne, Questions make us tick, answers are usually boring, aren't they? You're right about Piccinini. He was a follower of the then fashionable TO technique. Dowland, Laurencini, Howett and others seem to have used TO , although Dowland is said to have started his career using TI.. At

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I'm not sure it's quite right to say that lute and theorbo players were the ones who 'often' played mandolin because a few may be recorded. What's the evidence for this? What named players ('court musicians') do you have in mind? Did not violinists play the mandolin, especially the

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-16 Thread Susanne Herre
About lute players/theorbo players at courts: I think of Agniolo Conti, Florence Lelio Colista Niccolò Ceccherini Pietro Paolo Cappelini Filippo Sauli and Francesco Bartolomeo Conti, Vienna Johann Sigismund Weiss But there where others who played other plucked instruments like guitar, harp

[LUTE] Re: lute music and playing technique in italy 18th century

2010-05-16 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Many thanks for this. It as an interesting and largely unexplored area which I think we both feel needs much more good research. Regarding the names you list, I don't see that this actually makes the necessary link between professional theorbo/lute players and those also

[LUTE] Re: [english 100%] 8 Palestrina Ricercare

2010-05-16 Thread Karl L. Eggert
Lieber Anton, thank you so much for your duets and other tablatures! Herzliche Grüße Karl -- From: Anton Höger diwa-animat...@t-online.de Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 11:20 AM To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [english 100%] [LUTE] 8

[LUTE] Re: Piccinini-thumb-index

2010-05-16 Thread Edward Mast
I think for most musical instruments playing techniques have evolved in directions away from rigidness and constrictions.Casals comes to mind in the way he moved towards more freedom of arm movement in cello playing. No doubt placing the little finger close to the bridge and firmly keeping

[LUTE] Re: playing technique of baroque mandolin

2010-05-16 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
I agree with Davide. I'm just aware of no baroque-era iconography that implies plectra/quills on 4th-tuned, gut strung mandolins. If it were common in the pit for obligati parts, I would think plectrum use would be at least occasionally evident in the sketchy iconography. I also