When you write 'The better explanation for seemingly thin, coloured
strings on the basses of lutes...', what do you mean by
'better''?: - better in relation to the historical evidence (if so
precisely what)?; better for modern ears?; better for the cost?; better
than
I don't suppose we'll ever know for sure, unless somebody comes across
a well-preserved, accurately dated stash of old lute strings - or
perhaps they have all decayed/rotted?
Still, interesting views are being expressed. I suppose what we should
all be doing is trying to produce
While I won't argue, Stephan, that the red guiterne strings of which you write
are not copper wire, I think it is highly unlikely that Mace's red Pistoys were
wirewounds (as suggested by Shaun below). Mace would hardly have mentioned red
dye, and said he thought that they were thick Venice
Dear Shaun,
When you write 'The better explanation for seemingly thin, coloured
strings on the basses of lutes...', what do you mean by
'better''?: - better in relation to the historical evidence (if so
precisely what)?; better for modern ears?; better for the cost?; better
Dear Bill,
I meant to send the email to the lute list but pressed the wrong button
- I've rectified this now.
As you say it's unlikely we'll know for absolute certain - but I think
we can be pretty sure (95%+?) that before 1660 wire wounds were unknown
(tho' of course,
Dear Jaroslaw
Unfortunately I don't have time just now to reply in any detail about all
these interesting questions you raise, but I will nevertheless do so, as soon
as I have enough time to do your analysis justice.
Just on this issue of the meaning of rottenness. I find that Martyn did have
NOTHING TO DO WITH LUTE, BUT VERY VERY FUNNY . . . AND CHRISTMASSY . .
.
[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJLqyuxm96k
[or go on Youtube and search for 'Africa for Norway']
And a merry Christmas to one and all - when it arrives.
Monica
--
References
1.
Dear Martyn,
Thanks for these sources. I don't think they were making it up, but I do find
the Playford source questionable, being an advertisement. I know this sounds
nitpicky, but all it says is 'silver wire' on string is the new invention. It
doesn't say what came before. Kapsberger used a
Delicious!
Thank you Arthur.
Best regards
Jaroslaw
- Original Message -
From: Arthur Ness arthurjn...@verizon.net
To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; howard posner
howardpos...@ca.rr.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:26 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot
Dear Anthony,
As I said before, Martyn or Howard may be right, but if one reads the whole
context it seems rather unlikely. Mace uses the word „decay” in places where
he definitely means decomposition. The quote about an old oak in my previous
message maybe a good example. You can’t expect
Please look at Samuel Johnson's dictionary published in 1755. It is available
online and lists several meanings of 'decay'. There doesn't seem to be a direct
reference to decomposition during this time. While this isn't the best source
for understanding Mace, Johnson uses earlier sources to
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