[BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute music in Wroclaw (Breslau)

2012-11-29 Thread Grzegorz Joachimiak
Dear lute friends, I would like to share with you some memories and reports about Lute Weekend during 15th Wroclaw Guitar Festival in Wroclaw (Breslau), 20-21.10.2012. You can watch this and listen to some music here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfCoocO8qCUfeature=youtu.be Lute things

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Anthony Hind
For loaded strings, what is the evidence that one would expect to find? Shaun   Apart from the fact that the knowledge existed at the time for loading silk and leather in a process generally called dyeing, most of the clues are indirect but have been mentioned here in the previous

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Shaun, You ask: 'But then what is the explanation for thin bass strings on lutes? For loaded strings, what is the evidence that one would expect to find?' The explanation for thin bass strings on at least some lutes (I presume you're referring to measurements of bidge

[LUTE] Re: Pistoys prone to rot (and string structure) according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Jaroslaw Thank you again for raising the discussion. I quite understand and am very happy that you are busy, a very good thing for a musician. It happens that I have to travel for the next few weeks (unfortunately, not on tour as for yourself), so it would be best for

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Shaun Ng
Dear Martyn, Yes, I am aware of these things. The evidence for loading on strings is? Or has the lute world already made a collective decision not to ask this question anymore? Shaun On 29/11/2012, at 7:30 PM, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Dear Shaun, You ask:

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Shaun, With respect, I think I've already answered this - see below regards Martyn --- On Thu, 29/11/12, Shaun Ng shaunk...@gmail.com wrote: From: Shaun Ng shaunk...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Shaun Ng
I'm sorry Martyn, the thread is very long. Just mention the book, image, quote, etc. On 29/11/2012, at 8:37 PM, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Dear Shaun, With respect, I think I've already answered this - see below regards Martyn --- On Thu, 29/11/12, Shaun

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Shaun, As said, the nub of the case is set out in my last but one email. And, of course, the many, many others from numerous people commenting on the matter over the moths (and years). Anthony Hind and Mimmo Peruffo, to name but two, are amongst those providing or

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread William Samson
Ah well - It looks like we have started arguing in circles using hypotheses that don't lend themselves to testing. Until we can get hold of a fragment of an old thin bass string that can be subjected to physical and chemical analysis, this argument will go on and on without

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Markus Lutz
Hi Shaun, Hi Martyn, unfortunately I cannot say too much on this topic, at least for the 17th century. For sure wound strings had been available in the 18th century. At least Frank Legl has found some accounts around 1750 in Munich, where there are mentioned halb umsponnene Saiten (= half

[LUTE] Re: Swedish lute songs?

2012-11-29 Thread Jan Johansson
Ed, the organ tablature version is in another volume in the Dueben collection. Since the lust list machine for some reason corrupts my url:s I will tell you how to get to the tablature through the search pages for the Dueben collection. Start at the main page

[LUTE] Re: Watch this...

2012-11-29 Thread Edward Martin
Hilarious! At 11:36 AM 11/28/2012, Monica Hall wrote: NOTHING TO DO WITH LUTE, BUT VERY VERY FUNNY . . . AND CHRISTMASSY . . . [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJLqyuxm96k [or go on Youtube and search for 'Africa for Norway'] And a merry Christmas to one and all -

[LUTE] Digital Download Program

2012-11-29 Thread Marvin Reiss
Dear Early Music Contributors, The major increase in your recent quarterly royalty checks is correct. We credit this up-tick to our marketing and growth in market share. Please feel free to continue to submit mastered tracks for review. Best Holiday wishes, Marvin

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread R. Mattes
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 12:04:48 +0100, Markus Lutz wrote Hi Shaun, Hi Martyn, unfortunately I cannot say too much on this topic, at least for the 17th century. [...] Another important source, though late, on all topics of life is Krünitz, Oeconomische Encyclopädie. Probably it also depends

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Dan Winheld
Kapsberger used a wire strung theorbo... Apples and oranges. Monofilament wire string technology, used in musical instruments, goes way back- predating the Renaissance, maybe 13th century (best I can remember off the top of my head). Nothing to do with the idea of thin wire overwound on a gut

[LUTE] Lute music in Wroclaw (Breslau)

2012-11-29 Thread Grzegorz Joachimiak
Dear lute friends, I would like to share with you some memories and reports about Lute Weekend during 15th Wroclaw Guitar Festival in Wroclaw (Breslau), 20-21.10.2012. You can watch this and listen to some music here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfCoocO8qCUfeature=youtu.be Lute things

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Stephan Olbertz
How about Zedler? The 64 volumes were published between 1732 and 1754, vol. 33 describing interesting things on the topic of saite, like the process of manufacturing, different colours and materials. No loading, I'm afraid, but overspuns, though they seem to serve as a kind of jewelery

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Shaun Ng
Well, wouldn't this mean that every time we see a painting of an instrument with strings, we would have to consider one more stringing option, instead of just gut or wound? It says something quite important, that metal strings on instruments existed. Now, in the light of this, interpretation of

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Shaun Ng
Seems that there is just a little bit more evidence for wound string use in the 18th century than there is for their supposed invention in the 1660s. Shaun Ng On 30/11/2012, at 9:39, Stephan Olbertz stephan.olbe...@web.de wrote: How about Zedler? The 64 volumes were published between 1732

[LUTE] Re: 8-ch lute strings spacing

2012-11-29 Thread David Tayler
Ideally what we need is for ppl to upload their spacings. I will upload one from about 20 years ago which is slightly wider than what I have now--I will call it fat and happy d --- On Thu, 11/15/12, Edward Mast nedma...@aol.com wrote: From: Edward Mast nedma...@aol.com

[LUTE] Re: Lute bass strings - was Re: Are Pistoys prone to rot according to Mace?

2012-11-29 Thread Andreas Schlegel
The lexicon, dated 1715, is available with this link: http://diglib.hab.de/wdb.php?dir=drucke/ae-12 Andreas Am 29.11.2012 um 23:39 schrieb Stephan Olbertz: How about Zedler? The 64 volumes were published between 1732 and 1754, vol. 33 describing interesting things on the topic of saite,