[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread David van Ooijen
- I wonder if there are there people who use all gut and nails. I did for a while. I started life as a guitar player with nails on nylon. Then included lutes with nails on carbon and overspuns to the collection. The sound was singing, strong and very clear. Very clean too, which

[LUTE] Bream, Hoppy, nails and stuff

2013-12-11 Thread William Samson
As my lute guru, Diana Poulton reminded me - Don't base your playing on what today's lutenists do. Go to the sources and make up your own mind. In fact the only times I saw her angry was when people made sweeping assertions that weren't underpinned by the sources. Bill

[LUTE] Re: Bream, Hoppy, nails and stuff

2013-12-11 Thread David van Ooijen
Can I 'like' this mail? David *** David van Ooijen [1]davidvanooi...@gmail.com [2]www.davidvanooijen.nl *** On 11 December 2013 09:36, William Samson [3]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: As my lute guru, Diana

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-11 Thread gary
Ah, the just leave your dogma on the porch dogma. Gary On 2013-12-10 18:20, Mayes, Joseph wrote: Well, I was sort of fearing some push-back from the tap-dancing barefoot crowd. I don't know how you can speak for most of the lutenists out there. I certainly only meant to speak for me. Sweetness

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-11 Thread gary
I feel more like I do now than I ever did before. The past is the future of the present. Gary On 2013-12-10 18:17, Sean Smith wrote: If things weren't like they were, they'd be different! s On Dec 10, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Tom Draughon wrote: With Viagra he may have had more! Tom Draughon

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread Allan Alexander
Sean I know his father bought Bream his first lute off the back of a sailor, he was carrying it One day in 1947, his dad was walking down Charing Cross Road and met a sailor carrying a lute. It would become a key moment for British postwar music. He asked: 'What is that?' The

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread David Morales
A couple of links about that interesting last mail (thanks Allan) [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Augustine_Ltd. and [2]http://archive.is/ZP3yY (recovered webpage where you can read From Gut to Nylon by Ivor Mairants) Regards David Morales Cuerdas Pulsadas

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Wilke
Dan, On Wed, 12/11/13, Dan Winheld dwinh...@lmi.net wrote: In fact, before Dupont's nylon came along, Agustin Barrios Mangore had to use steel strings, as the greater part of his life and work was in South America- no place for gut! Barrios made

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread Braig, Eugene
The Barrios-as-first legend is batted around quite a bit, but I think that's due to his current popularity as a mainstream classical instrumentalist. I suppose giving Barrios that credit depends upon if you're willing to consider accompanists. Roy H. Butin, e.g., was a fine professional

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread David Morales
Allan, about your last mail (and sorry for the indirect advertising). We have some customers at Cuerdas Pulsadas that prefer gut strings for their classical guitars. In fact, we have a full set of gut strings for guitar made by Pyramid although experienced musicians prefer to buy

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread Dan Winheld
Chris- Thanks for the clarification. Hazy second-hand stories get turned into mythic certainties, blown out proportion- Barrios Mangore, the South American Indian playing classical guitar in the steaming Amazon jungles, gut strings rotting out from under his fingers. etc. The truth makes

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread Sean Smith
Dear David Thank you for this. Interesting video and it's a shame about the sound quality. He sounds like a good player. I wonder if he would have benefitted from a carpet under his chair or a screen just behind him. So much sound seems lost to the volume of the hall. I think I'm

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread Sean Smith
For me, Dan, it's a gut discussion. Watching how it moved in, out and maybe back in a related instrument in its social and mechanical dynamics is, I hope, instructive to a few lutenists; it certainly is to me. I'm sorry to hear about PR. He was spoken highly of by many here in the

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread David Morales
Let me talk with him. He's in China at the moment, but i'm sure he can read and reply my mails. For the moment, i can tell you that he's using gut only in the top three strings (i can't remember the gauges), and he's playing with Aquila Corde gut strings, but he's looking for a full

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread howard posner
On Dec 11, 2013, at 9:06 AM, Sean Smith lutesm...@mac.com wrote: Interesting video and it's a shame about the sound quality. He sounds like a good player. I wonder if he would have benefitted from a carpet under his chair or a screen just behind him. So much sound seems lost to the volume

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread Sean Smith
Dear David Thanks. That's a healthy sized first string! That ought to get the soundboard moving. I'm confused about the basses, however. His 6th string is about double the diameter of the 1st yet yields a two-octave difference. On my lutes my 6th fundamental (roped but still fairly

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread Dan Winheld
Sean- It gets even healthier; Dan Larson markets gut guitar strings as well- for either a-415 or a-440 he recommends: e - .62, .64, .66 mm.(light, medium heavy) b-.82, .84, .86 mm. g- 1.00, 1.02, 1.04 mm. I would guess that his basses are some kind of

[LUTE] Re: nails

2013-12-11 Thread Martin Shepherd
Sorry, David, I couldn't resist forwarding this... Original Message Subject: nails Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 21:45:06 + From: David Hill [1]div...@tiscali.co.uk To: Martin Shepherd [2]mar...@luteshop.co.uk I really can't believe that lutenists

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-11 Thread Bruno Correia
Do you think he needed it? 2013/12/10 Tom Draughon [1]t...@heartistrymusic.com With Viagra he may have had more! -- References 1. mailto:t...@heartistrymusic.com To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Bream Collection... I just noticed

2013-12-11 Thread Bruno Correia
2013/12/11 Mayes, Joseph [1]ma...@rowan.edu Well, browse the recordings since mid seventies. Well, I was sort of fearing some push-back from the tap-dancing barefoot crowd. I don't know how you can speak for most of the lutenists out there. I certainly only meant to speak for

[LUTE] Re: Nails and lute playing

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Wilke
Hi Eugene, On Wed, 12/11/13, Braig, Eugene brai...@osu.edu wrote: The Barrios-as-first legend is batted around quite a bit, but I think that's due to his current popularity as a mainstream classical instrumentalist.  I suppose giving Barrios that credit depends upon if you're willing to