[LUTE] Re: John Bull's Fantasy XII is Raga Yaman

I would not dare to call you a fool if you actually took your time to listen :) In case of my experiments I grant you, there is room for doubt. But with Fantasy X and XII: Did you *really* listen? (I hope your disbelief did not impair your hearing. This human trait has been proven

[LUTE] German song questions

Hi all, Some of the easiest pieces in early German tab books are: Hast du mich genommen (Madonna Katerina) and Unsere Koechin kann aus der massen kochen Does anyone have the texts or know more about these songs? (I have the first two volumes of Forster and have looked in

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

Au moins cette intéressante discussion aura permis à Göran de montrer sa maîtrise de la langue française ;-) ! Bien Amicalement, Jean-Marie > Le 7 févr. 2018 à 23:36, G. C. a écrit : > > Right, so all we other lutenetters interested in this should just keep > hanging.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Looking for a dissertation about the Bach BWV995 - FOUND!!

Dear Collective Wisdom, thank you to absolutely everybody in this fantastic community for providing so much help in such a short time frame! I ended up following François-Pierre Goy advice and bought it from ProQuest as a PDF with immediate download for US$ 38 (which

[LUTE] Re: John Bull's Fantasy XII is Raga Yaman

I agree with you Arto. The first example is quite amazing in its compatibility. Due to a common scale, the forced duet somehow sounds compatible. I would say a musical quirk and a coincidence. How could Indian music be compatible with Western renaissance. No chance! And the other

[LUTE] Re: Mystery Pieces of the Siena Manuscript xx

Sorry. This is the last Iâll have to say on his matter. > RA wrote: I'll say plainly that I have no particular dog in this difference of opinion between Arthur and Victor . . . > Has it become a dogfight? That's sad to hear. Ron Andrico certainly has a dog in this matter.

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

Right, so all we other lutenetters interested in this should just keep hanging. Tres bien. That's the way! Ce est le route? G. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 11:20 PM, Jean-Marie Poirier <[1]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: Jaroslaw I do agree with you and the study of past mentalities

[LUTE] Re: John Bull's Fantasy XII is Raga Yaman

Well, I listened carefully all those example combinations of Bull's harpsichord pieces and the suggested similiar(?) raga performances, and sincerely I could not find much in common between them, just two different sound clips connected. Tristan von Neumann is of course free to name me also

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

Jaroslaw I do agree with you and the study of past mentalities and culture has been my daily bread for the last 35 years or so. I know exactly what you are talking about.. Let’s leave it here as you suggested in your email and thank you for your very well informed contribution. All the best,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

Dear Mathias, Thank you for the file. Here is my version, very similar to yours except bar 19 which I consider correct in the manuscript and bar 11 which I read differently from you. This makes a total of 3 "mistakes" which is really few for a manuscript piece of this type ! A very beautiful

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Looking for a dissertation about the Bach BWV995

Hello Luca, Why not contact the author? Last thing I hear he's the director of Chesa Planta ( http://www.chesaplanta.ch), an Engadin cultural foundation (the library holds two 16th century lute manuscripts). HTH Ralf Mattes To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

BTW. I never wrote that Jacques Gaultier was related to Enemond, so don't know were is this supposition from⦠That is from: On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 5:50 AM, Ron Andrico <[1]praelu...@hotmail.com> wrote: Speaking of Thurston Dart, I always return to his article, "Miss Mary

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

Dear Jean-Marie, Let me be the first, hoping that your PC opens Fronimo files. Mathias -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jean-Marie Poirier [mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Februar 2018 17:51 An: Mathias Rösel; 'Baroque Lute List' Betreff: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re:

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Looking for a dissertation about the Bach BWV995

Hi,  You can buy a copy on various formats from ProQuest Dissertation Express ([1]https://dissexpress.proquest.com/search.html : search publication number 10296642). Alternatively, I suppose the Library of the University of Pavia participates in the Interlibrary loan

[LUTE] Re: Cherbury lute book

Jean-Marie, This is a vast subject for a long debate. To judge a man’s behaviour from 17th century and predict probability of its consequences is not a trivial matter. As historian Miles Fairborn says that: „impossible, strange and bizarre are less so when placed in their proper context. This

[BAROQUE-LUTE] A polish MS

Hi everyone. I am looking for the manuscript PL-Kj ms. mus. 40637. I cannot seem to find it online. Does anyone know? All the best Anders Ericson -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Looking for a dissertation about the Bach BWV995

Dear collective wisdom, I'm presently working on my last year of the "laurea magistralis" (I'm actually 52, but I loved lute music so much that I finally managed to get there…) at the Conservatorio of Pavia and trying to investigate as much as possible the history of the

[LUTE] Re: John Bull's Fantasy XII is Raga Yaman

Dear Tristan, I'm super excited about your discovery, and thank you many times for providing it, as well as your other notes which are much appreciated. There must have been a lot more intercultural exchange back then than what we read in standard history books. I recently

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

"SORRY FOR THE TYPO" :-D -- >ooops ! Sorry fothe typo : "except the odd mistake"... >Classical flat tuning here A D g b flat d f, supposing a lute in A... > >Jean-Marie > > >-- > >>Sorry Mathias, but except the opddmistake here and there, I don't see >>anything

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

ooops ! Sorry fothe typo : "except the odd mistake"... Classical flat tuning here A D g b flat d f, supposing a lute in A... Jean-Marie -- >Sorry Mathias, but except the opddmistake here and there, I don't see anything >strange about the 3rd course in this piece which I love and

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

Sorry Mathias, but except the opddmistake here and there, I don't see anything strange about the 3rd course in this piece which I love and play regularly. It sure could be a transcription from the old tuning. When I have the time, I will try to transcribe it back to old tuning ;-) ! Just to

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Ballo Ungherese "Czeretöm a tánzba"

"Czeretöm a tánzba" for Baroque Lute, in 6/8+2, not for faint-hearted! http://torbanorg/czeretom/czeretom-baroque.mp3 http://torbanorg/czeretom/czeretom-baroque.pdf Enjoy! Amities, RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Denis Gaultier

> And almost nobody so far has made any mention of the very beautiful > Tombeau de Mésangeau in flat tuning which appears in Rés. 6211 (f° 31v-32) Did you notice the slips of the pen for the 3rd course? There are some more lines below, slightly faded, containing music in another tuning, viz.