[LUTE] Re: Lute pictures for website...

2009-03-12 Thread Anthony Hind
Duncan One would think that once a photo was on a web site, linking to that photo would be perfectly alright, just drawing attention to what is already there. I imagine in most cases, there is no problem, as such a link is a sort of promotion, but apparently the legal area here is

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre painting an angelique?

2009-03-05 Thread Anthony Hind
Ed I forgot to send this to the whole list. I rather like this record, but it is now very difficult to find. You can see the tittles at the link below. Perhaps it can be found second hand. I also like this de Visée recording http://tinyurl.com/apg537 There was a thread about this topic on

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?]

2009-03-01 Thread Anthony Hind
possibilities do exist as well, as explained in this thread. regards Jaroslaw - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr To: lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 12:34 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?] Le 28 fĂŠvr

[LUTE] Re: Basses loaded, bottom of the 9th

2009-03-01 Thread Anthony Hind
Oups, I had better correct the end of my message: (This of course does not mean that I am NOT really very much in favour of such research). Or to put it more simply: I am very much in favour of such research. AH Le 1 mars 09 à 11:56, Anthony Hind a écrit : Dear Ed Your latest

[LUTE] Re: Basses loaded, bottom of the 9th

2009-03-01 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Ed Your latest baroque lute recording is an example to us of what can be acheived using gut. It is not an easy thing stringing a Baroque lute in gut (compared to a renaissance one), and your work with Dan Larson is a model of cooperation between lutenist, lute and string maker

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?]

2009-02-28 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Jaroslaw Le 28 févr. 09 à 01:35, Jarosław Lipski a écrit : Dear Anthony, I really didn't want to rehash and old discussion (just wanted to share an interesting picture), but in a way I am beeing forced to reply, by your claims that finaly we found the satisfactory and historicaly

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?]

2009-02-28 Thread Anthony Hind
these are also a plausible alternative, or could have coexisted with loaded gut. I believe silk strings do have much greater sustain, although I don't know how damping through loading may effect this. Perhaps, Alexander can inform us on that. Regards Anthony Le 27 févr. 09 à 11:35, Anthony Hind

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?]

2009-02-28 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 28 févr. 09 à 23:39, alexander a écrit : http://www.aquilacorde.com/articles4.htm And you can see Mimmo taking various measurements, explained in the article above at this link : http://www.aquilacorde.com/researches.htm Note that he does not just measure lute bridge holes. The same

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?]

2009-02-27 Thread Anthony Hind
might have a variance in color from pale ochre to burnt umbre. I hope this information helps you in your research. Cordially, Damian From: Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr To: Jaroslaw Lipski jaroslawlip...@wp.pl; alexander voka...@verizon.net; Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-27 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Alexander and All I adress my musings to you as you obviously have had hands on experimenting with loading and its tonal effect. (I wrote this before my reply to Damian aboout the more general question of loading versus low tension HT, from within the loaded gut

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?]

2009-02-27 Thread Anthony Hind
coexisted with loaded gut. I believe silk strings do have much greater sustain, although I don't know how damping through loading may effect this. Perhaps, Alexander can inform us on that. Regards Anthony Le 27 févr. 09 à 11:35, Anthony Hind a écrit : Dear Anthony, You seem to be intent

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?] or soaked ...

2009-02-27 Thread Anthony Hind
What precise parts of Mace's work do you find not 'reliable'. (Descartes last words here) dt Don't walk away, René... Storing lutes in beds. Smashed more theorbi than the airlines. Daniel Actually this point goes very well together with the observations he makes on the rotten

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?] or soaked ...

2009-02-27 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 27 févr. 09 à 19:15, dem...@suffolk.lib.ny.us a écrit : On Fri, Feb 27, 2009, Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr said: What precise parts of Mace's work do you find not 'reliable'. Storing lutes in beds. Smashed more theorbi than the airlines. I fail to see how this makes Mace

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?]

2009-02-27 Thread Anthony Hind
Anthony Le 27 févr. 09 à 11:35, Anthony Hind a écrit : Dear Anthony, You seem to be intent on finding evidence to support a historical premise for 'loaded' strings. You rely heavily on a color theory that supposes that reddish strings indicate loaded strings. Since you are not privy

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre [loaded?]

2009-02-26 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Jaroslaw I will begin by the end: I have to stress here, that I am not against loaded strings even if it may sound paradoxicaly. I admire Mimmo's great contribution in finding the best strings for a modern lute player. I use his strings very often and will advice them to other

[LUTE] Re: Res: Re: . http://www.klassiskgitar.net/?

2009-02-24 Thread Anthony Hind
Thanks Rafael, you are right. It is back! It is a very useful database. Anthony Le 24 févr. 09 à 02:44, rafael borges a écrit : It works for me... Great site! Thanks! Rafael Borges De: Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr Para: lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 23 de

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-23 Thread Anthony Hind
example. Regards Anthony Regards Jaroslaw - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr To: Jarosław Lipski jaroslawlip...@wp.pl; lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:49 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre It's good to read

[LUTE] Ed Durbrow open wound strings

2009-02-23 Thread Anthony Hind
Hello Ed I am trying go answer off list, but the message seems to be blocked. I may have to answer on list, unless you have another solution. Regards Anthony Le 23 févr. 09 à 07:58, Ed Durbrow a écrit : Hi Anthony, On Feb 23, 2009, at 5:01 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: copper does vary

[LUTE] Re: nylglut strings advice wanted

2009-02-22 Thread Anthony Hind
Stuart, you can find advice at Aquila FAQ; but I will copy the relevant texts. Anthony http://www.aquilacorde.com/faqi.htm FAQ Aquila 26) What is Nylgut and why is it white? In theory a gut string and a Nylgut one should have the same diameter. But since nylgut is quite 'stretchy' we

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-22 Thread Anthony Hind
. Thank you, Jaroslaw, for this very interesting example. Regards Anthony Regards Jaroslaw - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr To: Jarosław Lipski jaroslawlip...@wp.pl; lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:49 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Anthony Hind
It's good to read you again, Jarosław, and with such an interesting example. I would not presume to give any answers, just add a question or two. It would be good to have Mimmo's specialist opinion, on this. Aesthetic/loaded? I note that MP does give two examples contrasting

[LUTE] Re: Laurent de La Hyre

2009-02-21 Thread Anthony Hind
basses around it (important). I have people asking for one particular string which they fit in with others, as they feel it works better. It definitely has a different color. People were no different back then, at least at this. alexander On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:49:34 +0100 Anthony Hind

[LUTE] Re: Breaking pitch

2009-02-18 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Mimmo and All, If I have understood you correctly, there is a sort of contradiction : as gut becomes thicker, it must be treated to make it more flexible (higher twist and possibly softening chemicals), or else it becomes inharmonic. The more flexible it is, for a given

[LUTE] Re: Breaking pitch

2009-02-18 Thread Anthony Hind
of historical instruments, drops slightly in relation to the mathematical formula, which means that, as Mimmo pointed out, the string twist was higher for the longer instruments. alexander On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 12:29:08 +0100 Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr wrote: Dear Mimmo and All

[LUTE] Re: Fine example of 6-course LH technique!+Baglama

2009-02-12 Thread Anthony Hind
Excellent music and example of TO position Arto! It is a pity that we can't observe JH's LH and RH positions simultaneously. It looks as though he might sometimes be using the thumb, as Mark Wheeler suggested, to protect the bass from being hit in wider plectrum movement, but perhaps he is

[LUTE] Gabriel-Bataille

2009-02-12 Thread Anthony Hind
Pour ceux qui n'ont pas accès à la liste luth, Arto Wikla vient de nous indiquer que http://www.scribd.com/ contient des exemples de tablature de luth, tel que les 6 livres d'Airs de Cour de Bataille par example: http://www.scribd.com/doc/321030/Airs-de-differents-autheurs-Vol-1-

[LUTE] Re: Gabriel-Bataille

2009-02-12 Thread Anthony Hind
Oups wrong list, sorry AH Le 12 févr. 09 à 12:03, Anthony Hind a écrit : Pour ceux qui n'ont pas accès à la liste luth, Arto Wikla vient de nous indiquer que http://www.scribd.com/ contient des exemples de tablature de luth, tel que les 6 livres d'Airs de Cour de Bataille par example: http

[LUTE] Re: RH position, was: Dilettantism (off topic)

2009-02-10 Thread Anthony Hind
Did you notice during the signing that Barack Obama is a lefty? I don't suppose he could be the first lefty US President ? Anthony Le 9 févr. 09 à 23:06, Jean-Marie Poirier a écrit : What about this picture from 1601 (by Philippe Galle) : http:// le.luth.free.fr/lefties.htm When in the same

[LUTE] Re: RH position, was: Dilettantism

2009-02-10 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 10 févr. 09 à 00:08, Mathias Rösel a écrit : I'm assuming the Vermeer doesn't count dt Well, okay, you might as well count Santa Cecilia (Saraceni) or Gaultier (de Reyn). I haven't found out which Vermeer you might have in mind. But wouldn't you say it's clear as the sun that

[LUTE] Re: Francesco discography

2009-02-10 Thread Anthony Hind
for your vintage selection POD Asree AS101 Intabolatura del leuto del divino Francesco da Milano Anthony Le 10 févr. 09 à 13:52, Martin Shepherd a écrit : Hi gang, Can anyone help me compile a list of currently available recordings of Francesco da Milano? Some of the best older recordings

[LUTE] Re: Dilettantism (approaches to music)

2009-02-09 Thread Anthony Hind
two cultures makes me less willing to close the doors to any serious approach to baroque music. Anthony Le 8 févr. 09 à 20:37, Jerzy Zak a écrit : Anthony, On 2009-02-08, at 19:16, Anthony Hind wrote: Indeed, there are signs that there were disagreements, between lutenists of past

[LUTE] Re: RH position, was: Dilettantism

2009-02-09 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 9 févr. 09 à 11:45, David Tayler a écrit : If all the pictures show us that the RH was at the bridge, then many of the pictures have gone missing. dt You must address that question to Robert Barto. But I think these are recorded interviews, I imagine RB does not mean they are only at

[LUTE] Re: J-Bar/fan-bar, was: Dilettantism

2009-02-09 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 8 févr. 09 à 20:39, Mathias Rösel a écrit : Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr schrieb: Thus J-barring=bass rider, and fan-barring=swan-necked lutes would be a tendency, but the two sets may not be identical. e.g. Wolfgang Emmerich who has made research on Railich, tells me

[LUTE] Re: RH position (Hoppy)

2009-02-09 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Jean-Marie Yes these are great pages Jean-Marie, and they were the first to interest me in this topic. I have always enjoyed Hoppy's musicality, and humble approach to his music, however, I was a little disappointed in the Dowland Dream recording, although I enjoyed his

[LUTE] Re: Diletantissimo!

2009-02-08 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 8 févr. 09 à 00:10, wi...@cs.helsinki.fi a écrit : Hey gang, I just found out that I have in a way or another - and more or less - tubed all my 8 instruments! :-) Being both a valve and gut sound fan myself, and strongly associating the warm sound quality of both (transistors with

[LUTE] Re: Dilettantism

2009-02-08 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 8 févr. 09 à 01:07, howard posner a écrit : On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: I can think of professional players who do limit themselves to Renaissance lutes, Jacob Heringman, and this does seem to have allowed him to develop an extremely elegant Renaissance RH position

[LUTE] Re: Grammy awards tonight

2009-02-08 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 8 févr. 09 à 17:07, Rob MacKillop a écrit : I would add Ed Martin's 'Allemande' recording to their list. One of the best I've heard in a long time. Rob MacKillop Very beautiful, and very well appreciated by all I have played it to, including non-specialists. I wasn't

[LUTE] Re: Dilettantism

2009-02-07 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 7 févr. 09 à 16:43, David Rastall a écrit : On Feb 6, 2009, at 7:11 PM, jsl...@verizon.net wrote: Isn't it possible that playing several plucked instruments can be mutually reinforcing? If I spend all day playing the vihuela, won't that improve my lute playing? If I work on

[LUTE] Re: Dilettantism

2009-02-07 Thread Anthony Hind
. - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr I can think of two French based professionals who use only one lute (not the same one), and that is Pascale Boquet on a 7c lute Renaissance lute, and Miguel Serdoura on a 13c J-barred lute. To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: Dilettantism

2009-02-07 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 7 févr. 09 à 19:38, Mathias Rösel a écrit : Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr schrieb: Renaissance lute, and Miguel Serdoura on a 13c J-barred lute. Note that barring has become an operative trait, whereas bass rider vs. swan neck may go unmentioned 8) -- Mathias Oh well

[LUTE] Re: Dilettantism

2009-02-07 Thread Anthony Hind
is also playing romantic guitar. V. - Original Message - From: Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr To: Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de; lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dilettantism Le 7 févr. 09 à 19:38, Mathias

[LUTE] Re: was trench fill now exact replica

2009-02-06 Thread Anthony Hind
David I very much doubt whether one could now make an exact copy of a lute that could be confused with the original. Even a modern lute maker cannot make two exactly identical lutes. They may be able to make two fairly similar ones, and they will be original lutes, by that lute maker.

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: was trench fill [fake?] now ex act replica

2009-02-05 Thread Anthony Hind
Do you mean the very early fakes, in which a lesser known lutemaker added a famous name to make them worth more, possibly when Baroquing a lute? Anthony Le 5 févr. 09 à 11:24, David Tayler a écrit : I'm talking about the fakes that no one knows are fakes--the thirty percent that we know

[LUTE] Re: Metronome was Re: piece of the month restored

2009-02-05 Thread Anthony Hind
. 09 à 10:11, Martin Shepherd a écrit : Dear Anthony, My comments are below yours: Anthony Hind wrote: Le 4 févr. 09 à 22:08, Martin Shepherd a écrit : Dear Anthony and All, Please don't use me as a metronome! I haven't checked this particular performance against a metronome, but I can

[LUTE] Re: exact replicas, pastiches, and fakes

2009-02-05 Thread Anthony Hind
There was an interesting BBC programme, last year, on fakes and copies, Originals/fakes/reconstructions, Copies and Pastiches, from the world of art to architecture. Although it was addressed to the general public, certain questions raised seem relevant to the issue, here; that is, if we

[LUTE] Re: piece of the month restored

2009-02-04 Thread Anthony Hind
Thank you, Martin, once more for a delicate performance. Although I have the excellent hard-bound Tree edition, it is good to be able to swiftly access your PDF, on which it is possible to note fingering. Being of a slightly tense nature, I tend to speed up, while playing, so following

[LUTE] Re: Metronome was Re: piece of the month restored

2009-02-04 Thread Anthony Hind
Anthony Hind wrote: Thank you, Martin, once more for a delicate performance. Although I have the excellent hard-bound Tree edition, it is good to be able to swiftly access your PDF, on which it is possible to note fingering. Being of a slightly tense nature, I tend to speed up, while

[LUTE] Re: Old Satoh - Serdoura and gut

2009-02-03 Thread Anthony Hind
believes he can express them. Anthony Le 2 févr. 09 à 15:57, Taco Walstra a écrit : On Monday 02 February 2009, Anthony Hind rattled on the keyboard: The LP's (it is a 2-record set) were done years ago, before people were recording in gut. ed ... Yes, I forgot that gut stringing, came

[LUTE] Re: Old Satoh - Serdoura and gut

2009-02-03 Thread Anthony Hind
for unbowed, below, please read unfretted AH Le 3 févr. 09 à 12:56, Anthony Hind a écrit : Taco Your remark are short, but call for a rather long answer. As you may know, I was one of the first to adopt Mimmo Peruffo's loaded strings on my Baroque lute, and reported back

[LUTE] Re: French trill?

2009-02-03 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 3 févr. 09 à 11:52, Mark Wheeler a écrit : Dear David, Thanks for highlighting some of the problems involved with classical recordings... Here are some quotes from a Jacob Heringman interview (LSA Quartely) about recording a lute CD... I would play it safe - I wouldn't take risks

[LUTE] Re: Rousseau - was: French trill?

2009-02-02 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 2 févr. 09 à 04:06, Andreas Schlegel a écrit : The most powerful statement on HIP I know was written in 1768 by Jean- Jacques Rousseau in his Dictionnaire de musique, art. Notation p. 324: He speaks about concerts with antique Greek music: I can give a fairly literal translation, but

[LUTE] Re: Old Satoh Vinyl Recording

2009-02-02 Thread Anthony Hind
thumb- out; and now, once again, there seems to be a move to an even stronger thumb-out, right now (similar to the Charles Mouton painting, rather than the supposed Jacques Gautier, one). Anthony Le 2 févr. 09 à 15:03, Anthony Hind a écrit : Le 2 févr. 09 à 13:36, Edward Martin a écrit

[LUTE] Re: Old Satoh Vinyl Recording

2009-02-02 Thread Anthony Hind
Anthony At 11:04 AM 2/1/2009 +0100, Anthony Hind wrote: ED Well, personally, I don't have the LP, but if I did, I certainly would not want the degradation that a transfer to CD usually brings. Compare most of the early Astrée CDs and their CD transfers. However, these Astrée Lps also appeared

[LUTE] Re: Old Satoh Vinyl Recording

2009-02-02 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 2 févr. 09 à 13:36, Edward Martin a écrit : No, it was recorded before carbon was available. He used standard Pyramid strings, strung in the manner in which we strung lutes back in the 1970's. His technique was playing close to the rose, etc. Right, my first, rather brief contact

[LUTE] Re: Old Satoh Vinyl Recording

2009-02-01 Thread Anthony Hind
ED Well, personally, I don't have the LP, but if I did, I certainly would not want the degradation that a transfer to CD usually brings. Compare most of the early Astrée CDs and their CD transfers. However, these Astrée Lps also appeared under the Telefunken label, and these were even

[LUTE] Re: my first video

2009-01-31 Thread Anthony Hind
Peter I very often have problems of that sort with my MAC, but this time, no problem at all. It is a MACbook, but a few years old, and it is having problems with any large file, but this time there was absolutely no difficulty. However, I was using FireFox. Anthony Le 31 janv. 09 à

[LUTE] Re: Fourier measurements of lute sound.

2009-01-29 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 29 janv. 09 à 01:17, Herbert Ward a écrit : The width of the central peak ... increases as the interval decreases, but I could not come up with any simple mechanism that would shift the maximum of the curve noticeably. I verified this experimentally. In other words, determining

[LUTE] Re: Fourier measurements of lute sound.

2009-01-29 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 29 janv. 09 à 11:09, Anthony Hind a écrit : Le 29 janv. 09 à 01:17, Herbert Ward a écrit : The width of the central peak ... increases as the interval decreases, but I could not come up with any simple mechanism that would shift the maximum of the curve noticeably. I verified

[LUTE] Re: French trill?

2009-01-29 Thread Anthony Hind
The variant border vs brouder, is exactly of the same sort as that of French fromage vs fourmage (from M.L. formaticum, from L. forma shape, form, mold), originally formage (something that is shaped) giving also the regional variant Fourme. In other words it is an easilly explainable

[LUTE] Re: Melchior Neusidler

2009-01-28 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 28 janv. 09 à 05:04, David Tayler a écrit : The vast majority of the early lutes had no body frets, and the high notes can be easily and with a nice but distinctively different sound played all the way up the B flat (imaginary fret 15) on the soundboard.. Some lutes either show body

[LUTE] Re: Melchior Neusidler

2009-01-28 Thread Anthony Hind
I suppose you are talking about the fact that the wooden frets are fixed and may not correspond to the tuning that you are using, or do you mean that there is a difference of tone with a wooden fret? When I mentionned Stephen's having set my Baroque lute in 6th comma, many people here

[LUTE] Re: LUTE CDs Ed Martin's Allemande/Serdoura's Baricades

2009-01-25 Thread Anthony Hind
Anthony Le 23 janv. 09 à 12:53, Anthony Hind a écrit : I should have used TinyUrl, but you can copy the link into your browser. AH Le 23 janv. 09 à 12:47, Anthony Hind a écrit : Dear All Miguel Serdoura sent me a link where samples of his Baroque CD can be heard in reasonable quality

[LUTE] LUTE CDs Serdoura's Baricades + Lindberg Dowland

2009-01-23 Thread Anthony Hind
field does give more guitar than lute recordings http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/home/hitlist Anthony Le 2 janv. 09 à 20:24, Anthony Hind a écrit : Dear All I have just been informed that Miguel's lute CD is already out of stock. It should be possible to preorder here: http://www.amazon.com

[LUTE] Re: LUTE CDs Serdoura's Baricades + Lindberg Dowland

2009-01-23 Thread Anthony Hind
I should have used TinyUrl, but you can copy the link into your browser. AH Le 23 janv. 09 à 12:47, Anthony Hind a écrit : Dear All Miguel Serdoura sent me a link where samples of his Baroque CD can be heard in reasonable quality. http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/hnum/7946221

[LUTE] Re: LUTE CDs Serdoura's Baricades + Lindberg Dowland

2009-01-23 Thread Anthony Hind
almost as surprised to find that fruit was sold per unit. Anthony Le 23 janv. 09 à 13:02, Andrew Gibbs a écrit : Anthony - what does this mean? Are CDs priced by the note now? Andrew On 23 Jan 2009, at 11:53, Anthony Hind wrote: I wonder whether the cheap Brilliant version is up

[LUTE] Re: LUTE CDs Serdoura's Baricades + Lindberg Dowland

2009-01-23 Thread Anthony Hind
, Anthony Hind rattled on the keyboard: Oups sorry, that is a gallicism, (although it is ambiguous in French, now you make me think about it). I have not completely acquired French, and I have already lost much of my English, soon to be in an interlingual no-man's land ... Come to think about it, French

[LUTE] Re: LUTE CDs Serdoura's Baricades + Lindberg Dowland

2009-01-23 Thread Anthony Hind
Oups Le 23 janv. 09 à 18:32, Anthony Hind a écrit : Well Taco, the question concerned the various realizations of the Bis recording of Lindberg's Dowland, not Miguel's Baricade. I leant that Brilliant does not make the Masters, but buys the rights, so presumably they bought the rights

[LUTE] Re: Green Sleeves

2009-01-20 Thread Anthony Hind
Of course there is the Cutting variation. It might predate Ballet, as Cutting seems to have died around 1596, but the ms Add 31392 LBL (presumably a copy) appears to be c. 1605. However, the same is probably true of version in the Ballet ms. It would presumably predate the ms date of

[LUTE] Re: 4 courses and a bit of ham

2009-01-19 Thread Anthony Hind
Is this the third one? http://www.arkhipovskiy.com/video/kolechko.wmv Anthony Le 19 janv. 09 à 17:43, Alexander Batov a écrit : Alexey Archipovsky is indeed quite amazing musician. For those who don't know there are several of his full-time videos that are available for download directly

[LUTE] Re: There is a traitor in our midst!

2009-01-18 Thread Anthony Hind
Rob, After listening to you, I saw there were other ukulele players listed, and I listened to one or two. Some were virtuosi, and I might admire their skill, but it seemed all flash and little music. A couple of years ago, I went to a Hoppy concert organized by the French guitar society.

[LUTE] Re: 'notable composers (lute, vihuela and guitar)'

2009-01-18 Thread Anthony Hind
There may be a couple of pieces for guitar, and guitar and voice, by Maxwell Davies, I believe. http://www.chesternovello.com/default.aspx? TabId=2432State_3041=2workId_3041=11859 http://www.chesternovello.com/default.aspx? TabId=2432State_3041=2workId_3041=11859 Anthony Le 18 janv. 09 à

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13 (barring)

2009-01-15 Thread Anthony Hind
I suppose to the three hypotheses, mentioned in my previous message, I should add something about the apparent success of demi-filé, probably around the same time that swannecks became popular. There are arguments about whether the extension on swan-necked lutes had pure gut or demifilé, or

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 11 or 13

2009-01-14 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Benjamin and Markus Le 14 janv. 09 à 10:49, Markus Lutz a écrit : Miguel has told me something about different barring of French eleven course lutes and later baroque lutes. So that might also be a difference of sound. Maybe others can say something on that. Unfortunately I also

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le Fameux Corsair + Enigma

2009-01-14 Thread Anthony Hind
Message from Jean-Daniel Forget, remarques from Miguel Serdoura, and an anecdote Dear Ed and All Jean-Daniel Forget: I had a message from Jean-Daniel Forget, on the topic of the fameux Corsaire, J-D says that in the 18th century the confusion between corsaire (privateer) and pirate

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le Fameux Corsair

2009-01-12 Thread Anthony Hind
of Saint-Louis. He died peacefully in 1736. Anthony Le 12 janv. 09 à 15:34, Anthony Hind a écrit : I would think the most famous, and also the last French Corsair would have been Surcouf:$ I found this about him in wikipedia (although I always treat this source with caution, and I have

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le Fameux Corsair

2009-01-12 Thread Anthony Hind
I forgot to say surely it must be Duguay-Trouin. Anthony Le 12 janv. 09 à 17:26, Anthony Hind a écrit : Michel Cardin being both a French speaker and a specialist on Weiss, of course I bow to his greater knowledge, but wasn't Blackbeard a pirate, in modern French, Corsair is very much

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le Fameux Corsair

2009-01-12 Thread Anthony Hind
Oh well, I just thought of searching specifically for Fameux corsaire barbe Barbe Noire, and I found that things are less clear than I fist thought. In a text from figaro international, Barbe Noire is constantly called pirate, le plus redoutable pirate, but it seems that he started out

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le Fameux Corsair

2009-01-12 Thread Anthony Hind
I would think the most famous, and also the last French Corsair would have been Surcouf:$ I found this about him in wikipedia (although I always treat this source with caution, and I have not counterchecked it) Anthony http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsair Robert Surcouf Robert Surcouf

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le Fameux Corsair

2009-01-12 Thread Anthony Hind
was written 1720 or in the beginning of 1721. Best regards Markus Anthony Hind schrieb: I would think the most famous, and also the last French Corsair would have been Surcouf:$ I found this about him in wikipedia (although I always treat this source with caution, and I have

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le Fameux Corsair

2009-01-12 Thread Anthony Hind
Quite so, but he is not a corsair, and wouldn't it still be likely to refer to a French one? Anthony Le 12 janv. 09 à 19:08, Bernd Haegemann a écrit : And why would Weiss use the French tittle for Blackbeard? Pourquoi pas? B. I think that French was quite common in courtly circles, more

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le Fameux Corsair, more evidence

2009-01-12 Thread Anthony Hind
. The dates are close, so a slight shift for either could make this impossible. Fameaux Corsaire probably was written 1720 or in the beginning of 1721. Anthony Le 12 janv. 09 à 17:43, Anthony Hind a écrit : Duguay-Trouin -- To get on or off this list see list information at http

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le Fameux Corsair, more evidence

2009-01-12 Thread Anthony Hind
before that date. Indeed, how else could there have been a pirated version in 1730? Nevertheless, had the pirated version been a little earlier, we could be more certain that the fameux Corsair was Duguay-Touin. Anthony Le 12 janv. 09 à 21:15, Anthony Hind a écrit : I made

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Le Fameux Corsair

2009-01-12 Thread Anthony Hind
Bernd Oh well I am wrong again, however, the dictionnaire historique Robert, defines it as someone who captures enemy merchant vessels. often later confused with filibustier and pirate (it is true), although they are denote quite distinct entities. So it could denote, pirate, but it

[LUTE] Re: honey combed carbon sandwich or salt loading

2009-01-03 Thread Anthony Hind
Alexander This carbon fibre honey comb sandwiched between wood has been used for turntable plinths and speaker cabinets. This gives an impression of a faster sound (the sound wave is diffused rapidly) and transients are better presented, but usually there is a lack of focus, a

[LUTE] Re: honey combed carbon sandwich or salt loading

2009-01-03 Thread Anthony Hind
strings. No wonder by the way the oud makers jumped on it, the same way they accepted nylon strings unquestionably... alexander On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 15:51:25 +0100 Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr wrote: Alexander This carbon fibre honey comb sandwiched between wood has been used

[LUTE] Re: damping of basses

2009-01-03 Thread Anthony Hind
is an important factor too. From this point of view Miguel's reference is not sufficently complete. Although, intuitively, I would guess the proportional values (not the absolute ones) might not be completely wrong. Le 3 janv. 09 à 17:05, chriswi...@yahoo.com a écrit : Anthony, --- Anthony

[LUTE] Re: damping of basses but not my enthusiasm, I hope!

2009-01-03 Thread Anthony Hind
to communicate on this list. Le 3 janv. 09 à 17:58, howard posner a écrit : On Jan 3, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: I agree with you, being able to damp strings does not mean that you have to damp them all the time. It is something to be kept in the panoply of the lute player. If you

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Miguel Serdoura's CD and Method

2009-01-02 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear All I have just been informed that Miguel's lute CD is already out of stock. It should be possible to preorder here: http://www.amazon.com/Baricades-Misterieuses-Miguel-Barockluta- Serdoura/dp/B001LJL6ES/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1? ie=UTF8s=musicqid30922859sr=8-1 Or later :

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Miguel Serdoura's CD and Method

2009-01-02 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 2 janv. 09 à 20:24, Anthony Hind a écrit : Dear All I have just been informed that Miguel's lute CD is already out of stock. It should be possible to preorder here: sorry about the broken link, please try this: http://tinyurl.com/9c6qut Or later : http://www.arkivmusic.com His

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: damping of basses

2009-01-01 Thread Anthony Hind
Sorry like David, replied to the wrong list Dear Chris and All, According to Miguel Serdoura (p111-123) in his Baroque lute method, there is one explicit mention of damping in Mace (1676). He indicates the damping of a note with two small dots before it., and calls this effect Tut.

[LUTE] Re: le Tocsein de Gautier

2009-01-01 Thread Anthony Hind
is present throughout. 'le cabriolet' is about a rollicking cab ride through paris; 'la poste' rhythmically creates the rhythm of a galloping horse, but the drama unfolding is the journey; from departure to arrival à la fin. Damian Anthony Hind wrote: Having just discussed the tempo of La

[LUTE] Re: damping of basses

2009-01-01 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Chris and All, According to Miguel Serdoura (p111-123) in his Baroque lute method, there is one explicit mention of damping in Mace (1676). He indicates the damping of a note with two small dots before it., and calls this effect Tut. The tut is a Grace always with the Right

[LUTE] Re: damping of basses

2009-01-01 Thread Anthony Hind
David, Miguel Serdoura's pages are 122-124, and not the ones I just gave. I am only forwarding the point of view expressed there. It would be interesting to record a passage on a gut strung lute, following the Miguel's dampling indications, testing how this sounds when the basses are

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: le Tocsein de Gautier

2008-12-31 Thread Anthony Hind
on to say that without the presence of a text, all speculation is possible. Anthony Le 30 déc. 08 à 11:16, Anthony Hind a écrit : I agree that the gigue form, in French lute music could have determined the degree of imitation possible when evoking the tocsein. It might nevertheless

[LUTE] Re: le Tocsein de Gautier

2008-12-30 Thread Anthony Hind
GIGUES). Mathias Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr schrieb: Damian Sonner le tocsin, meant roughly to ring a peal of warning bells , but could also mean the bell used for such a warning. This would have come from earlier touquesain from Provencal tocaseneh. It seems that tocar

[BAROQUE-LUTE] 2 Baroque Lute recordings

2008-12-28 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Lutenists In the last month I have received two excellent Baroque lute CDs, that very nicely complement each other. Both contain music by Kellner, but the pieces do not overlap, and while Ed Martin's CD also contains music by Conradi, in Miguel Serdoura's CD there is music by well

[LUTE] Re: le Tocsein de Gautier

2008-12-28 Thread Anthony Hind
Damian Sonner le tocsin, meant roughly to ring a peal of warning bells , but could also mean the bell used for such a warning. This would have come from earlier touquesain from Provencal tocaseneh. It seems that tocar (or toquer), distantly related to touch, comes from Latin toccāre

[LUTE] Re: le Tocsein de Gautier

2008-12-28 Thread Anthony Hind
usually be chimed as loud and fast as possible in case of emergency, was the gigue which bears that name supposed to be played that way, too? It's a sequel, so to say, of a short discussion that we had in December 2003 (Re: binary and ternary GIGUES). Mathias Anthony Hind anthony.h...@noos.fr

[LUTE] Re: Peg count on Choc lute

2008-12-22 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear Martin and All Le 22 déc. 08 à 10:33, Martin Shepherd a écrit : Dear Anthony and All, Just to answer a few things from your message: If the evidence from surviving lutes is anything to go by, a double first was common on 7 and 8c lutes. There is no reason to associate this practice

[LUTE] Re: Peg count on Choc lute

2008-12-22 Thread Anthony Hind
Dan, I have very much enjoyed your explanations of how you came to terms with the double top course, and how this improved your TO technique. It gave me more hope actually, as I am struggling somewhat with TO at present. Le 21 déc. 08 à 19:37, Daniel Winheld a écrit : No need to apologize

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