of nihilism.1, a doctrine that all values are baseless, that
nothing is knowable, and itself meaningless. This pretty much describes Mr.
Ness's recipe for historical musical soup, yuck!
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Michael,
The fingers seen in most
Christopher Schaub [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
I haven't heard anyone play
thumb-under faster than top rate classical or flamenco guitarists whose
technique is not that different from thumb-out, especially in regards to
imim
The kind of speed flamenco guitarists have with imim, I
know this because I saw
one of his nails ( a fake one ) explode into the sky above the audience at a
concert once.
Michael
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is interested in Dowland's lute music should hear
both Paul's and Hoppy's CDs.
Nancy Carlin
Michael Thames says:
Personally, I think Paul Odette's recordings of Dowland are
unequalled. Recordings by well known players using thumb out, sound
rather
un- lute like after listening to Odette
of any significance.
I never said Weiss couldn't read bass clef, only that there's a quote
that he could play from a violin score.
AS far as my hate filled message, another slight exaggeration on your
part.
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In Dowland's observations in a varietie of LVTE - lessons, he instructs ( for
the right hand) to stretch your thumb with all the force you can and
... the thumb under the other fingers, which though it be nothing so
elegant, yet to them it will be more easy.
Is Dowland suggesting
: Byrd
At 10:43 AM -0600 7/11/05, Michael Thames wrote:
I'm also courious about Couprion. Not being a historian , but able
to
add 2 and 2 together, one would have expected to see volumes of records
made
of Couperin's lute suites, what a find that would be! Yet as an avid
collector
across, I've yet to see any
lute suites or peices by him. One might also have expected Paul Odette to
record the complete Lute Works of William Byrd.
Arthur, please add me to the lists of requests for the originals, of these
two composers.
Michael Thames
Dear Matthias
recordings ever... is Glenn Gould's
recording of Willaim Byrd, and Orlando Gibbons. According to Gould, they
were his favorite composers as well.
Michael Thames
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there, as
I've heard every angle of this, and we could go on forever.
Michael Thames
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guitar composers of the past and
present, a relatively modern invention your sense of the passage of time
is allot different than mine, what kind of sweetener are you using in you
coffee thesedays? I'd like to try some too!
Michael Thames
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the
English Renaissance modern.
Regards,
I see your point, BTW right now I'm listening to some relatively
modern, Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, and Weiss, not to mention a little modern
guitar music by Sor.
Craig
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The English consider 100 miles to be a long way.
Only Americans consider 100 years to be a long time.
I guess that's why we call Europe the old world, and America the new
world. The only problem is Ness lives in Boston! Things happen here allot
faster than over there.
Michael Thames
a separation point between thehands.
Will someone please inform Aurther Ness that there is no Bass cleft
in Baroque lute notation, unless you happen to be an old, world keyboard,
music historian. Haven't we progressed past the 1930's? mentality?
Michael Thames
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as the REAL Roman
Trovosky, that we all have come to love, and cherish. Welcome home, it's
been a long time! Finally you've succeeded in shedding the old skin of Mr.
Polyhimnion, lute -9.
Michael Thames
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of guitar notation
but
given a time line of - say 900 up to now - something which is 200 years old
is fairly new.
Best wishes
Thomas
the instrument we are discussing
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Perrine
development is wrong. The only notation the six
string has ever known is treble clef. I also appreciate your attempt to
divert attention to the 1400th century guitar but that's not at all what we
are talking about, good try!
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York village idiot!
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Right, and when the same historians talk about things classical they are
talking about things roughly 2500 years old
Earth to Stuart.earth to Stuart... are you there Stuart...hello!
hello! I think we lost him sir
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they are in.
Nancy Carlin
I always assumed they were keyboard arrangements by Byrd of lute
music.
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to be actualized.
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One
is this considered Weiss's original
piece, and not Weiss's arrangement of one of Bach's suites?
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the
hands somehow work together automatically.
ajn
Well I don't know a whole lot of violinist's that read bass clef, and may
cellist's that read treble clef. Or may lutenists that read Italian tab,
or
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inventory of
lutes is the actual Sandalwood from India?
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Subject: cartloads of yew
I think this has been discused on the lute list
the common lutes made
of yew.
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Dear Chad and All,
The question of what
Brown,
Bernd , and Carl.
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Michael and everyone,
Diagrams for tying
.
Now, if only I can figure out how to tie a double fret!
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Hi Michael
will put double frets on all my lutes from now on.
Thanks again, for the dialogue, and expertise, and your patience with my
journey
Michael Thames
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Ha ha! My diabolical plan to inflate the third-quarter share price of
fretgut manufactories is proceeding apace!
You've just doubled your projected profit!
Michael Thames
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city
area.
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Subject: Stage presence and formal manners.
In A Tale of Two Cities there is a French marquis
with a cold
.
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There are a few frets that would take a while to wear down because
cedar ( a little
heaver) for the core.
Michael Thames
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Michael Thames wrote: If one
on the treble...And that's if
the plane is just STRAIGHT from the nut to the bridge!!! Angle the neck
BACK as Lundberg suggests, and you end up with something that resembles the
bowed family of instruments.
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of tunness
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Martyn Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Date: Sun, 19 Jun
Jon,
Another thing to bear in mind is that a string, when pressed against the
fret, never makes a perfectly straight plane. I mean that when your finger
presses the string down in back of the fret, it produces a slight arch, not
a straight line.
Michael Thames
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, you've
just managed to tune your lute.
Your idea of a perfectly tuned lute, and mine, might be very different
as the many systems of tuning attest too. However, your attitude clearly
suggests that your system is superior to that of the guitarist. Good for
you, Sean.
Michael Thames
like.
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I think that's game set and match to Martyn, then - I've never
can see the details involved in
clearly showing double frets. As I'm sure that this painting shows DF's it
still is not convincing evidence that this was a wide spread custom.
Michael Thames
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prevents the courses from sliding around so much?
What is the advantage to these, and seriously, why don't performers use them
thesedays. Has anyone talked to the guys at the top, like Odette, Wilson,
Barto, Cardin etc. as to their rational behind not using them?
Michael Thames
that more actual contact
surface would help this a bit?
Michael Thames
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Would it be safe
Peter,
I have to now admit you, Sean, and Kenneth have got me pretty excited to
try this. I hope to try this out tomorrow and will report back.
I take back all those horrible things I said about Dowland. However I do
think the Painting show more single frets than double.
Michael Thames
., and the
height of the strings off the top.
In the lute it's a different story, there is no room for error. For a
lute to be properly set up there is no choice the neck angle is a given.
Michael Thames
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of the neck
will affect, is how high off the top the strings ride at the bridge. It has
nothing to do with the action.
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maintain a
constant height of the string over the frets.
This idea of the neck angle affecting the action is a popular
misconception by many luthiers.
Michael Thames
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. This ideal height can only vary by 1 or
perhaps 2 mm. The neck angle determines the bridge height. From that
point, you then, can fine tune the action.
This theory assumes one has some experience in the proper set up of
lutes, and guitars.
Michael Thames
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out so well. Unless you like the strings to float 10mm off the top.
Michael Thames
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Another, way to look at it, is Humphrey's Millennium guitar, with an
EXTREME neck angle, however the action is pretty good, at least on the ones
set up by Jurlick out in LA.
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be dysfunctional.
However, in theory or on paper it works doesn't it ? Just look at Humphrey's
guitar, and keep imagining more and more of an angle, but instead of moving
the neck to change the angle you move the top, which is what he did.
Michael Thames
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One more example would be a cello or violin which has an EXTREME neck angle,
this doesn't effect the action, now does it. It only affects how far of the
top, the strings ride, like I've been saying.
Michael Thames
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Michael Thames wrote:
I'm afraid you are wrong!
Howard wrote...
They would be dysfunctional because the ANGLE OF THE NECK MAKES THE ACTION
TOO HIGH, right? Which is to say that you can't change the angle of the
neck to the plane of the top without changing the action
Howard, the fatal
Lutenists tend stay away from lutes with moving neck joints.
The Schelle therobo has a hinge on the neck.
Michael Thames
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everything to do with the fact that the
strings ride a good 15mm off the top.
Michael Thames
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.
In this case, high frets can tend to feel like railroad ties, as your going
down the track. However, I've not come across this technique in any lute
music.
Michael Thames
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Wayne,
Stu Mac sells a digital caliper much more readable, and so more accurate.
They customized it so you can take a reading with the fret gut on the lute.
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Calipers.html
Michael Thames
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in the neck the luthier should built it in the
neck before fretting it.
Michael Thames
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appear in?
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of the Dresden MS, of a smaller book, with 34
sonatas, non edited facsimiles, that is very nice as well, but seems to be
out of print.
I wonder if anyone out there has this edition, and would like to sell
it?
Michael Thames
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been reading from Xeroxed copies of these so called, damaged
facsimiles, for quite a while, with no problems. Oh Well.
Michael Thames
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Hmm. You may have something here. It would be funny if
my sticking fingers were because I'd overzealously scrubbed
all the natural oil out of my skin
A little bow resin on the tips works wonders.
Michael Thames
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then post my findings.
Michael Thames
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You
Vance,
I know you want to debate this thing, but I know lutes bodies, with
their necks are asymmetrical.
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was there in Cermona. As Trovosky points out
they probably won't give a Mickey Mouse luthier such as I, access, anyway. I
only have a book with photos.
Michael Thames
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Hi Michael,
actually italian tab is quite easy. Just imagine to look *through* your
lute and you'll see the numbers just on the right position.
Hi Thomas,
Very help tip, that made it much easier.
Michael Thames
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, and Dresden MS. edited by DAS.
BTW, OMI in NY has a compressive catalogue of Facsimiles, for guitar
and lute.
The Capriola in color is $33 ,and the Dalsa, is $38.
http://www.omifacsimiles.com/mgencatalogs.html
Michael Thames
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the octave at certain times, of
the fourth course? Is this what is meant as splitting a course?
Denys, thanks for the Dalsa peices I love this stuff!
Michael Thames
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There is a book showing all of Stradivari's moulds, and templates, and also
his tools. When I was there, all they had left, were versions in Italian,
for 20 Euros.
http://www.comune.cremona.it/doc_comu/mus/mus_stradivar.html
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Vance said
The point here is that the
use of asymmetry was to create the illusion of symmetry.
Why would anyone want the illusion of symmetry, when one can have the
real thing? Stradivari obviously thought very highly of symmetry, since all
of his moulds are symmetrical.
Michael Thames
tuning the 6th course down
a step yet at the same time shows an open a'' on the 6th courses as well?
Michael Thames
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.
Anyway, isn't this lute builder list material?
It seems most of the interest in this topic has come from non lute
makers. Besides, it seems to be more metaphysical than practible. I think
most any lute players would be somewhat interested in the thought behind it
all.
Michael Thames
an open 7th course
but this means to tune the 6th course down a step?. Why would there be 2
different open a one for the 6th and one to indicate the tuning?
Michael Thames
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One interesting detail on the template is the location of the rose which is
off centre, leaning more to the bass side.
Michael Thames
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) are rather shallow sounding, and the not so perfect
ones, are more interesting to listen to.
This is my second, naturally occurring law as applied to musical
instruments. The first being the rule of relative perception.
Michael Thames
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and other instruments. However many violin moulds of his exist, so the
existence of a template doesn't negate the use of a mould, a least for his
violins.
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years before. Who knows!
The Strad template at least for me, has cleared up all my doubts about the
symmetrically challenged makers of the past.
Michael Thames
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Jauch using symmetry and it
looks very pleasing. The challenge will be to actually translate the final
outcome of construction, in which case Manolo will be pleased to know, it
probably won't be perfectly symmetrical.
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a single plane of symmetry, but that's usually where it
ends.
Eugene
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but having been refering to only the body of the
lute in this discussion, as Stad's template is only of the belly.
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this is not the correct way to describe it.
Personally I can see know acoustical advantage to an asymmetrical shape.
Michael Thames
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, that is to say, thicker
and higher on the bass side. The bracing is always asymmetrical, the
exception being swanneck lutes which have a symmetrical fan bracing.
Relatively speaking of course.
Michael Thames
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.
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it over, the other side will not be the same as the template. This has been
the whole point of this discussion, most lutes are not symmetrical.
Michael Thames
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it.
I wonder if these early makers had some mind set to stop just short of
perfection?
Michael Thames
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Eugene,
Sorry I mis read the link to the NMM, in SD, as saying there was a
Stadivari guitar in Cremona. Must have been the jet lag, last night.
Michael Thames
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idea, the
imperfection of man, but that can be achieved simply by trying to be perfect.
That being said, there are some lutes that appear to be very symmetrical, as
well.
All the best,
Michael Thames
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, but something much more
exciting: the appearance of it, without really being it
I'm not sure, but would venture to say, symmetry exists in ice crystal,
and crystal formations?
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his divine
art.
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Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 10:26 AM
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On Sat, 21 May 2005, Roman Turovsky wrote:
Let me put it this way: I have never
quit your daytime job, maybe in this lifetime, if not the
next.
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lute net
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:33 AM
Subject: Re
than usual string length.
At the Cremona Museum there was only a broken off neck of a guitar by
Stradivari that I noticed. I'm sure I would have seen a guitar there if
there was one. I hope I didn't over look it.
There was also a template for a therobo, as well.
Michael Thames
Marion,
Yes, it was one of the highlights of the trip for my wife and I. There
are also 4 Strads, and an Amati, as well as a Gesu, in a private room in the
city hall, that we found out about by accident, not well known there.
G.B. Ceruti any relation to you?
Michael Thames
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Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: Dr. Marion Ceruti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Arto Wikla
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Roman Turovsky
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Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: The List
To the great delight of some, I gone to Italy for a month. Keep an eye on Dr.
Jeckel and Mr. Hyde.
All the best,
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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I don't know if anyone else has noticed, all these multiple personalities,
Felix Krull, Gian luigi Chiaperalli, Saucheck, etc. I'm concerned, Roman might
be off his medication again.
Roman are you out there?
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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isn't Mickey, is it Felix?
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Alain Veylit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Lute net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: lost in NY
Michael
better tp keave such things from the list. Although I occassionally really
enjoy discussing them - and to my shame - I have to admit that I
participated on such discussions often on the lutelist.
Best wishes
Thomas
Yes, sorry, but I could help myself.
Michael Thames
dull and tubby in my mind.
That being said, I do love the sound of gut, from the sixth course up!
but defiantly not the basses of a 13 course lute.
Also, as I've said before, there does seem to be some evidence pointing
to the use of wound basses, on 13 course lutes.
Michael Thames
Yes Roman, to answer you inquiry, if your having no luck with Amazon, try
here.
http://www.dynamic.it/ just do a search for Baron.
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
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Does anyone know of paintings of German baroque lutes, swan neck preferably,
after 1732?
Michael Thames
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
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Anyhow, if Michael Thames promises to behave:
http://polyhymnion.org/swv/images/tripledet.jpg
http://polyhymnion.org/swv/images/triplepeg.jpg
RT
I can make no such promises, it's my nature to misbehave, but in all
fairness, thanks, for the photo.
I do believe I spot some wound basses
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