I suppose it is worth mentioning in this context that Cabezon and
Henestrosa's
keyboard music was for tecla, harpa y vihuela, so keyboard players,
harpists
and vihuela players were all expected to play from the same notation,
which is a
form of tablature.
Hate to object, but organ tablature
On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:28 PM, Mathias Roesel wrote:
Next time I'll play from the staff, not from the tablature sounds
like a
self-deprecating joke to me, rather than matter-of-fact-speech.
Well of course it was a joke. The joke was not
exactly self-deprecating, but mock
/11, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote:
From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was
Re: A=392]
To: Baroque lute Dmth baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 21:14
On Dec 1
On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
Howard, think a little -
transposition is precluded by temperament.
I'll let David know.
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On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
The idea of instant transposition on an instrument PRECLUDES meantone
temperaments, for starters.
It would only possible in EqualT. in a hypothetical situation that a given
transposition causes no hideously hard fingerings.
Say, your singer
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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:13 AM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re:
A=392]
Hi Stuart,
SNIP
Having said that, I can't remember if you were at the Lute Soc Summer
School when Eugen Dombois was giving master classes? He
On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:29 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
Have you anything constructive to add to the exchange?
No; once you've told us that transposition is unnecessary because almost half
the singers who'd want to sing the music can do it without transposition,
you've said it all.
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Howard, think a little -
transposition is precluded by temperament.
RT
- Original Message -
From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com
To: Baroque lute Dmth baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 10:21 AM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature
The idea of instant transposition on an instrument PRECLUDES meantone
temperaments, for starters.
It would only possible in EqualT. in a hypothetical situation that a given
transposition causes no hideously hard fingerings.
Say, your singer decides to transpose down a semitone from C-major. All
Roman,
--- On Fri, 12/2/11, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net wrote:
The idea of instant transposition on
an instrument PRECLUDES meantone
temperaments, for starters.
The affective quality of a piece was in part dependent on the key. Each key
had its own flavor imparted by the fact
From: Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com
Roman,
--- On Fri, 12/2/11, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net wrote:
The idea of instant transposition on
an instrument PRECLUDES meantone
temperaments, for starters.
The affective quality of a piece was in part dependent on the key. Each
key
On Dec 3, 2011, at 8:38 AM, A. J. Ness wrote:
I've witnessed Daniel Heartz, a piano virtuoso, when he ripped
through a lute tablature at tempo.
I'm reminded of one of my favorite professors back in college. I had
just taken up the lute and was so taken with Francesco's La
Ooijen
Cc: Baroque Lute List (E-mail)
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re:
A=392]
On 30/11/2011 16:37, David van Ooijen wrote:
On 30 November 2011 17:28, howard posnerhowardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote:
On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:39 AM, David van Ooijen wrote:
Ask your
: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re:
A=392]
On 1 December 2011 10:13, William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
clavichord and sight read from lute tablature flawlessly.
The real wonder would have been if he wouldn't have known what notes
the tablature represented.
David - cannot play
On 1 December 2011 13:58, Roman Turovsky r.turov...@verizon.net wrote:
reading off lute tabulature is common practice of historical harpists.
WITHOUT transposion, naturally.
Unless someone moved the harp an inch or two ...
David
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David van Ooijen
) voices in
this repertoire such as David's male alto. Again, see David Hill's
paper - well worth a read.
Martyn
--- On Thu, 1/12/11, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote:
From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature
On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
We've already discussed this: the range of these songs is well within
that of the generality of sopranos and tenors (see David Hill's recent
paper which also discusses this matter) so there is really no need to
transpose except, of
On 1 December 2011 11:08, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Further to this, all the sopranos and tenors I have worked with have found
the early lute song repertoire well within their comfortable range: why would
you wish to transpose the lute part at all?
I see. I work a lot
On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:08 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
why would you wish to transpose the lute part at all?
I can claim no particular great expertise on the subject of transposition
motivation, but could it be in any way possible (and I know this sounds crazy)
that the idea of transposition comes
Just to jump in the fray. My wife is aprofessional musician, as many of you
are, and I asked here if she thought it was an important skill for piano
accompanists to be able to transpose on sight. Her response was a resounding
yes.
Now I know the piano is a more amenable for transposition
On 30 November 2011 16:45, David Smith d...@dolcesfogato.com wrote:
Just to jump in the fray. My wife is aprofessional musician, as many of you
are, and I asked here if she thought it was an important skill for piano
accompanists to be able to transpose on sight. Her response was a resounding
] Transposing lute tablature on sight [was
Re: A=392]
To: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: Baroque Lute List (E-mail) baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu,
David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com
Date: Wednesday, 30 November, 2011, 15:45
Just to jump in the fray. My
On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:39 AM, David van Ooijen wrote:
Ask your colleagues if they can
transpose a lute song.
What evidence do you have that he has colleagues?
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On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, David van Ooijen wrote:
Oh dear, English again - and from the other side of the pond at that!
Perhaps I'm guilty of the Carly Simon song here: You're so vain, you
probably think this song is about you. My humble apologies to all
involved if that is the case.
Not
On 30 November 2011 18:44, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote:
Not sure what you're apologizing for, unless it's sending a message to the
list instead of to me.
It wouldn't do to be laughing at someone else's expense; but laughing
at my own expense is fine.
Your English seems fine,
On 30/11/2011 16:37, David van Ooijen wrote:
On 30 November 2011 17:28, howard posnerhowardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote:
On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:39 AM, David van Ooijen wrote:
Ask your colleagues if they can
transpose a lute song.
What evidence do you have that he has colleagues?
ROTFLOL!
Not
I like to think we're all enthusiastic amateurs here, sharing our love
for the lute and its repertoire.
Rather than perform a party trick for you, I'd like to show something
much better: you can transpose from tablature yourself. Give it a try,
even if just as a thought experiment.
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:59 AM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re:
A=392]
Dear David,
Thank you for this. I too think it a useful skill to be able to
transpose staff notation on sight (and, indeed, I often do when playing
theorbo
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