[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-23 Thread Martyn Hodgson
, as far as I'm aware, by any modern 'restorer'! All goes to show the dangers of allowing speculative reconstructions... Martyn --- On Sun, 22/4/12, Sam Chapman manchap...@gmail.com wrote: From: Sam Chapman manchap...@gmail.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: Why no active historical

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-23 Thread Louis Aull
--=_NextPart_001_0008_01CD213F.A088D270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The violin has an overhanging lip around the top and back. This make removal of either much easier and allows the repairman to move or replace the end block to effect

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-22 Thread William Samson
Stetson christophertstet...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2012, 2:59 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes? Hi, everyone, I've been waiting for one of the luthiers on the list to reply, but since they haven't, I'll toss in that it's my

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-22 Thread Martin Shepherd
Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2012, 2:59 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes? Hi, everyone, I've been waiting for one of the luthiers on the list to reply, but since they haven't, I'll toss in that it's my understanding that the physical forces of strings

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-22 Thread Christopher Stetson
...@gmail.com *To:* lute@cs.dartmouth.edu *Sent:* Sunday, 22 April 2012, 2:59 *Subject:* [LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes? Hi, everyone, I've been waiting for one of the luthiers on the list to reply, but since they haven't, I'll toss in that it's my understanding

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-22 Thread Luca Manassero
: Why no active historical lutes? Hi, everyone, I've been waiting for one of the luthiers on the list to reply, but since they haven't, I'll toss in that it's my understanding that the physical forces of strings pulling on the glued-down bridges

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-22 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Martyn --- On Sun, 22/4/12, William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: William Samson willsam...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes? To: Christopher Stetson christophertstet...@gmail.com Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-22 Thread Martin Shepherd
...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: William Samsonwillsam...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: [LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes? To: Christopher Stetsonchristophertstet...@gmail.com Cc: Lute Listlute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Sunday, 22 April, 2012, 8:09 I agree with most

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-22 Thread Denys Stephens
-Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Shepherd Sent: 22 April 2012 19:35 To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes? Thanks for your vote of confidence, Martyn, but it worries me that we modern makers are too

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-22 Thread Edward Martin
April 2012, 2:59 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes? Hi, everyone, I've been waiting for one of the luthiers on the list to reply, but since they haven't, I'll toss in that it's my understanding that the physical forces of strings pulling on the glued

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-22 Thread Sam Chapman
Dear Ned, Yes, the Messiah is more or less unmodified I think, though it is certainly not in active use - as far as I know, all instruments in the Hill collection at the Ashmolean were donated under the strict condition that they are never to be played! Also, it is pretty hard to convincingly

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-22 Thread Martin Shepherd
Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Shepherd Sent: 22 April 2012 19:35 To: Lute List Subject: [LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes? Thanks for your vote of confidence, Martyn, but it worries me that we modern makers are too slavish

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-21 Thread Sam Chapman
Just for the record, I don't think any of those Stradivarius violins are in anything like their original condition. Which is a real shame. All the best, Sam On 20 April 2012 20:23, Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu wrote: According to Wikipedia, there are many Strativarius violins in

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-21 Thread Edward Mast
I think one or two may have survived un-modified (perhaps the Messiah?). Also, Yo Yo Ma 'de-modified' one of his strad cellos (I believe I've read this), reconfiguring it as a Baroque instrument. (How much of a shame the modifications are depends upon who you're talking with, of course). -Ned

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-21 Thread Christopher Stetson
Hi, everyone, I've been waiting for one of the luthiers on the list to reply, but since they haven't, I'll toss in that it's my understanding that the physical forces of strings pulling on the glued-down bridges of lutes, which then torque the bridge against the very thin

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-20 Thread Max Langer
I thought Jakob Lindberg (http://www.musicamano.com/) plays one? Also on Toyohiko Satoh's recording Style brisé it says on original lute! (sic), though I don't know if he plays it in concert. /Max the lute-list lurker. Thanks for all the interesting posts guys! On 20 April 2012 20:23, Herbert

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-20 Thread Edward Mast
I would say the lute is a more fragile instrument than the violin. Also, the lute fell out of favor for a long period of time and consequently wasn't valued as highly as the violin. And the better (Italian especially) makers were widely known among players, and their instruments would in

[LUTE] Re: Why no active historical lutes?

2012-04-20 Thread Eugene Kurenko
I think that lutes were used more hard than violins. Let's imagine: turn that damned pegs every day, move that frets every day. Then rebuild that silly 7 courses lute to 8 courses. Then to 10,11, 12, 13... Open that belly and make new brace pattern. Try few stringings and tunings.