[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-27 Thread Tristan von Neumann
You're absolutely right, I see your point. But - when making music, does your mind revolve around music theory, or around the music? Does a musician sit down and create theoretical novelties before playing them? Music theory is a way to communicate musical matters so that others can

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread Ed Durbrow
Modern chord symbols appeared much later than you might think. I looked this up not long ago. I believe it was the 1920s or 30s and had to do with session playing. To do with films perhaps? On Jul 25, 2018, at 9:54 PM, Leonard Williams wrote: > As chordal music (as opposed to

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread David van Ooijen
l 26, 2018 2:44 pm Subject: [LUTE] Re: chord names Musicians and Music Theorists are rarely one and the same person :) It is not necessary to name or classify anything while making music - Music Theory is mostly after the fact. Theory is taught, bu

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread Leonard Williams
: [LUTE] Re: chord names Musicians and Music Theorists are rarely one and the same person :) It is not necessary to name or classify anything while making music - Music Theory is mostly after the fact. Theory is taught, but novelties appear regardless - see Monteverdi and Artusi. Am

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread Ralf Mattes
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2018 20:44 CEST, Tristan von Neumann schrieb: > Musicians and Music Theorists are rarely one and the same person :) Sorry, but that's the biggest bulls**t I've ever heard! Tinctoris (choir master, composer and most likely a singer)? Gafurius (composer, maestro di

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Musicians and Music Theorists are rarely one and the same person :) It is not necessary to name or classify anything while making music - Music Theory is mostly after the fact. Theory is taught, but novelties appear regardless - see Monteverdi and Artusi. Am 26.07.2018 um 19:11 schrieb

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread Leonard Williams
How would musicians like Dowland or Johnson have named their chords? Were they thinking in chord progressions, modalities, incidental chords arising in polyphonic cadences? I guess this is a question of music theory evolution. Leonard -Original Message- From:

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-25 Thread howard posner
> Tonic, dominant, etc? When did this start? “Tonic" and “dominant" are from Rameau’s 1722 Treatise on Harmony. I can’t swear he invented the terms, but he’s the reason they’re used. Describing music in harmonic terms is his legacy. The Treatise was published less than 20 years after

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-25 Thread G. C.
Interestingly, the compendium is for spanish guitar of 5 courses, 2 pages about the 4 couse guitar and then the same again in catalan, but with improved diagrams. (The text says that the first version was made in 1586 already!)

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-25 Thread G. C.
Juan Carlos Amat's little book Guitarra Espanola y Vandola (?) was published already in 1596 but the earliest surviving edition is from 1627. [1]https://imslp.org/wiki/Guitarra_espa%C3%B1ola%2C_y_vandola_(Amat%2C_ Juan_Carlos) -- References 1.

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-25 Thread G. C.
The guitarists spring to mind with their alfabetto and chord diagrams: Foscarini, Sanz, Pablo Minguet y Yrol etc. G. On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Leonard Williams <[1]arc...@verizon.net> wrote: As chordal music (as opposed to polyphonic) became more prevalent,