[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

Do you folks using very low tension have a problem with string rattle? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

No. But my brain is another issue... Rob 2008/7/8 Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Do you folks using very low tension have a problem with string rattle? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

Erm no - your brain is another tissue - Original Message - From: Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:19 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: very low pitch No. But my brain is another issue

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

Do you folks using very low tension have a problem with string rattle? -Ed Durbrow I don't - but it depends on a number of factors- How low is low?- can be anywhere from 4 kg for a tight single treble to 2.2 in the middle or bass. How close is the string spacing (assuming doubled courses)?

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

David, Not impressed. Black Sabbath was playing at 370 and below, way before anyone else back in the early 1970's. Most other hard rock/metal bands tune to at least 415 or 392 - as they have been doing for a couple of decades. Truly HIP. ;-) Chris --- David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

In France, from my experience, we tend to use A =404, aka the Peugeot pitch ;-) a lot for the early baroque repertoire. Jean-Marie === 30-06-2008 17:41:50 === David, Not impressed. Black Sabbath was playing at 370 and below, way before anyone else back in the early 1970's. Most

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

Mark -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 30. Juni 2008 17:42 An: David Tayler; lute-cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: very low pitch David, Not impressed. Black Sabbath was playing at 370 and below, way before anyone

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

Tony Iommi picked up the guitar as a teenager, after being inspired by the likes of Hank Marvin and The Shadows. Just like Nigel North. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

I'm 2008/6/29 Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I recently tuned my 72cm 13-course down to a tone below 415 (with strings intended for 392, so half a tone lower than that) and it really came to life. Could it be the lower tension strings (now around 3.5 on the top course, basses around 2.5,

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

Oops. I'm convinced that low tension is the way to go. I tune my 11c to 392. You can hear it here: www.songoftherose.co.uk - click on baroque lute. Rob 2008/6/29 Nigel Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I recently tuned my 72cm 13-course down to a tone below 415 (with strings intended for 392, so

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

Dear Nigel, Big ditto. I have a theory that we are all tuning our baroque lutes at too high a pitch standard. If a 10c renaissance lute with 70-73cm string length would be an E lute, *which is A=370*, why should a baroque lute with this string length be tuned an *entire TONE* higher at 415?

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

Low tension, especially for lutes in the new tunings from the early 17thC has been discussed fairly recently on this list (see archives). The preponderance of evidence for the little finger close/on/behind the bridge at this time may suggest a relatively low tension (so low, it can even be

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

Indeed - this is what I meant. I am not using *less* tension than at 415, but rather I have a new set of strings that reproduce the same tension at a lower pitch. That said, I think lower tensions in general work better for the solo repertoire. Incidentally, pitch as such isn't the crucial

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

My French ensemble performs often at 370, this includes specially made keyboards, winds and strings, plus large lutes at 370, which can be considered french pitch along with super low pitch of ~340. Good evidence for both pitches from historical keyboard instruments, but other pitches must have

[LUTE] Re: very low pitch

Right on right on. Got the 68 tune'd to Eb and I still get lots of colors. Just a different palette and intensity. Brings out different stuff in the stories. s On Jun 29, 2008, at 12:10 PM, Daniel Winheld wrote: Nice coincidence here. Back on the list in active mode (despite the emailbox