[LUTE] Re: Dearodear, correction no 2 to Bach cello suites for theorbo

2012-03-27 Thread Stefan Olof Lundgren
suites for theorbo Dear Stathis, thank you for your information, of course, you're right. All the best Stefan Dear Mr Lundgren, my congratulations for your project! May I say that these are Suites BWV1010-12? Best regards Stathis Skandalidis No IV, BWV 1010 http://www.youtube.com

[LUTE] François Couperin for the theorbo

2012-03-17 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear everyone, I’m pleased to announce that some more music by François Couperin has been intabulated for the theorbo and has been made available by Christoph Dalitz. Christoph is an expert on arrangements and adaptations. His arrangementments of Couperin's music are of intermediate difficulty

[LUTE] Re: New double-DVD with Bach on theorbo

2011-12-27 Thread David Tayler
To: LuteNet lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sat, December 17, 2011 2:20:08 AM Subject: [LUTE] New double-DVD with Bach on theorbo Hello! I've just uplouded the trailer for: J.S. Bach, Six Suites for Violoncello Solo performed by Melanie Poser, Dance, and me on theorbo. [1]http

[LUTE] New double-DVD with Bach on theorbo

2011-12-17 Thread Stefan Olof Lundgren
Hello! I've just uplouded the trailer for: J.S. Bach, Six Suites for Violoncello Solo performed by Melanie Poser, Dance, and me on theorbo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN8lo7omlnYlist=UUCDcjDzUA6lgsOjGdmENzGwind ex=1feature=plcp Have a nice christmas time and all the best for 2012! Stefan

[LUTE] Theorbo sighting

2011-11-21 Thread Leonard Williams
Baroque sextet with hurdy-gurdy and (nicely audible) theorbo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzmPNtpTiiQ Regards, Leonard Williams _ [: :] / | | \ | | | | (_==_) !~¿ To get on or off this list see list information at http

[LUTE] Re: theorbo-lute

2011-11-07 Thread dc
Many thanks to Bill Mathias! Dennis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] theorbo-lute

2011-11-06 Thread dc
The title page of Playford's Harmonia Sacra states that the thorough-bass is for the Theorbo-Lute, Bass-Viol, Harpsichord or Organ. Is this theorbo-lute an instrument such as described in Britannica: A similar, smaller instrument, the theorbo-lute, or French lute, was a modification

[LUTE] Re: theorbo-lute

2011-11-06 Thread William Samson
by women.  Thomas Mace (1672) simply refers to this as the lute.  He also says a lot about the theorbo that was popular in England at the same time and had stepped basses - This seems to have been smaller than the European ones - he only mentions the top course having to be tuned down an octave to avoid

[LUTE] Re: theorbo-lute

2011-11-06 Thread Mathias Rösel
. On the other hand, theorbo lute may just as well have signified the English theorbo with its 1st course down one octave (but not the theorbo which Mace describes). Sad enough, only a handful of 12c lutes in their pristine states have survived at all. So, we will never know where exactly the 12c lute

[LUTE] Re: theorbo interview

2011-10-31 Thread Mathias Rösel
be...@interlog.com Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Oktober 2011 17:02 An: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Betreff: [LUTE] Re: theorbo interview Whoops - here's an international website link. They podcast as well, I believe. http://www.cbc.ca/tapestry/ Quoting be...@interlog.com: Hey, everyone - there's

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo humor in comic strip

2011-10-24 Thread Luca Manassero
Really nice :-) I'll use it on my blog soon (properly citing the source, of course!) Luca howard posner on 23/10/11 02.09 wrote: If your paper doesn't have 9 Chickweed Lane you can catch the October 21 strip here: [1]http://www.gocomics.com/9chickweedlane/2011/10/22 It isn't the

[LUTE] Theorbo humor in comic strip

2011-10-22 Thread howard posner
If your paper doesn't have 9 Chickweed Lane you can catch the October 21 strip here: http://www.gocomics.com/9chickweedlane/2011/10/22 It isn't the first time the lute family has appeared in it. To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo humor in comic strip

2011-10-22 Thread howard posner
I meant October 22, obviously. On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:09 PM, howard posner wrote: If your paper doesn't have 9 Chickweed Lane you can catch the October 21 strip here: http://www.gocomics.com/9chickweedlane/2011/10/22 It isn't the first time the lute family has appeared in it. To

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute and Theorbo Recital, FREE ENTRANCE!

2011-10-15 Thread David van Ooijen
, Satoh, Flamenco and I'm sure I'm forgetting something. We'll bring three lutes each. (His all synthetics/wire wounds/nails/no-tuning, mine all-gut/no-nails/lots of tunign, for the string/technique nerds) On Sunday Fred Jacobs will come to play theorbo in the same festival. Here's the programme of all

[LUTE] Lute and Theorbo Recital, FREE ENTRANCE!

2011-10-15 Thread BENJAMIN NARVEY
Dear All, Just a note to say that I'll be playing a recital Sunday next, 23 October, at the Cave du 38 rue de Rivoli as part of the Festival Marin Marais. It is a nice (and new!) programme of de Visee and Weiss, all played on two sumptuously gut-strung instruments. Hope to see some

[LUTE] theorbo interview

2011-10-15 Thread benny
Hey, everyone - there's an interview with me on Canadian radio - CBC's Tapestry - about the phenomenon of picking up a new instrument at (ahem) mid-life. Here are the coordinates: Sunday, Oct 23 @ 2:05 EST on CBC Radio One (99.1FM in Toronto) I'll be playing theorbo, singing and playing

[LUTE] Re: theorbo interview

2011-10-15 Thread benny
-life. Here are the coordinates: Sunday, Oct 23 @ 2:05 EST on CBC Radio One (99.1FM in Toronto) I'll be playing theorbo, singing and playing Bach, Castaldi and my own compositions. The interview will be cached on the CBC website, so you can listen to my inspirational meanderings any time

[LUTE] de Visee theorbo duets

2011-10-09 Thread gtung . walton
Hello lute folks, There is a chaconne in g-major from the Saizenay ms and often attributed to de Visee (and sometimes to le Moyne). There is a duet version of this chaconne on Youtube. Does anyone know whether the duet version of this chaconne has been published and how one might

[LUTE] Re: de Visee theorbo duets

2011-10-09 Thread Edward Martin
Brad, Can you send the link to the duet on you tube? At 11:09 AM 10/9/2011, gtung.wal...@utoronto.ca wrote: Hello lute folks, There is a chaconne in g-major from the Saizenay ms and often attributed to de Visee (and sometimes to le Moyne). There is a duet version of this chaconne on Youtube.

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: German Continuo Theorbo

2011-09-05 Thread Andreas Schlegel
discussions on this topic before, but I don't recall whether there was any agreement on whether or not the German theorboes were single-strung. There doesn't seem to be very much information available on the German continuo theorbo. Does anyone know if these continuo theorboes were single-strung

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Theorbo Performance Practice

2011-09-04 Thread William Samson
...@dolcesfogato.com To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, 1 September 2011, 4:30 Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] French Baroque Theorbo Performance Practice   Greetings,   I have been looking at the performance of Hurel by Christopher Wilke on   his CD and have a couple of questions:   1

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Theorbo Performance Practice - more

2011-09-04 Thread William Samson
Hi again, Here's a translation of Nicholas Vallet's instructions from 1618. The remarks about 'thumb inside' are amusing! Bill [1]http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/319298_1504144020063_ 1728144395_730763_5570481_n.jpg

[BAROQUE-LUTE] German Continuo Theorbo

2011-09-04 Thread David R
continuo theorbo. Does anyone know if these continuo theorboes were single-strung? David R To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: German Continuo Theorbo

2011-09-04 Thread Andreas Schlegel
. by Wolfram Steude and Hans-Günter Ottenberg (Schriften zur mitteldeutschen Musikgeschichte 11), pp 65-88, André Burguete presents this theorbo by Tesler as having been converted into the first German Theorbo in 1715 by Edlinger and having been the personal instrument of Weiss. The discussion about

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Theorbo Performance Practice

2011-09-01 Thread wikla
a thought? 2. What is a good reference for French Baroque performance practice on Lute and/or Theorbo (preferably in English)? I hear lots of ornamentation as well as additional notes in the CD performance and would love to have some guidance on what is stylistically appropriate

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Theorbo Performance Practice

2011-09-01 Thread Christopher Wilke
recommendation of Stefan Lundgren's book. Chris Christopher Wilke Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer www.christopherwilke.com --- On Thu, 9/1/11, Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: From: Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Theorbo

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Theorbo Performance Practice

2011-09-01 Thread David Smith
mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: From: Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Theorbo Performance Practice To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, September 1, 2011, 9:42 AM The Lute Companion, a large collection of 11c lute music compiled

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: French Baroque Theorbo Performance Practice

2011-09-01 Thread Nancy Carlin
that is not clear to me where it comes from. Anyone have a thought? 2. What is a good reference for French Baroque performance practice on Lute and/or Theorbo (preferably in English)? I hear lots of ornamentation as well as additional notes

[BAROQUE-LUTE] French Baroque Theorbo Performance Practice

2011-08-31 Thread David Smith
where it comes from. Anyone have a thought? 2. What is a good reference for French Baroque performance practice on Lute and/or Theorbo (preferably in English)? I hear lots of ornamentation as well as additional notes in the CD performance and would love to have some guidance on what

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Music for Theorbo.

2011-08-13 Thread David Smith
Thank you all for helping me start to gain some understanding about the bibliographic references for the de Visee theorbo document and how to go about trying to get copies of them. I guess my next question, as a person just starting with Theorbo, is what solo theorbo sources I

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Music for Theorbo.

2011-08-13 Thread David Smith
@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Music for Theorbo. Dear David, perhaps you may find something interesting in my oldish page http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/Tiorba/deVisee/ Arto On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:30:43 -0700, David Smith d...@dolcesfogato.com wrote: Thank you all for helping me

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
--- On Thu, 11/8/11, Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo To: Lute Dmth lute@cs.dartmouth.edu, baroque Lutelist baroque-l...@cs.dartmouth.edu, howard posner

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-13 Thread Martyn Hodgson
a microfilm from BN Paris. I've also now copied my recent email to the Baroque Lute list referencing R1575 to the Lute List MH --- On Fri, 12/8/11, David Smith d...@dolcesfogato.com wrote: From: David Smith d...@dolcesfogato.com Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-13 Thread Monica Hall
Rebours' thematic catalogue of De Visee. This lists all the sources which include music by De Visee with the correct library sigla. He has listed 6 manuscripts which inlcude theorbo versions and 6 which include lute versions. There is some overlap between them. Only two of them are dated

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread Monica Hall
A bit more than that, no? Exact transpositions of the same pieces, I'd say. Perhaps we won't be able to tell which was first (as in Lessing's Ring Parable), but it's pretty clear that one _was_ first and the others are adaptations. I have only been following this discussion in a desultary

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread nigelsolomon
Just out of interest, when N. North recorded his Piccinini CD some years ago he recorded it on a K. Jacobsen theorbo. I was interested in ordering the same instrument from Jacobsen and, if I remember correctly, he told me the fingerboard string length was 86cm. North is far from a giant

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread Andreas Schlegel
I have been obliged to transpose the pieces of music because the compass of the guitar extends only to high D la re [at the tenth fret]. Did De Visee write that part about the tenth fret? That would be strange since that would shurely be a 'd la sol' (note: no re here!). Otherwise

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread R. Mattes
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 12:41:04 +0200, Andreas Schlegel wrote Did De Visee write that part about the tenth fret? That would be strange since that would shurely be a 'd la sol' (note: no re here!). Otherwise high might refer to the guitar's lowest note, d (open forth course), but that

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread Monica Hall
Did De Visee write that part about the tenth fret? J'ay esté obligé de transposer les pieces de musique acause de l'estendüe de la Guitare qui va jusques an D. la. re. en haut, il ne faut pas oublier une octave a la quatrième corde, elle y est tres necessaire. at the tenth fret is my

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread Andreas Schlegel
Thank's for the quote - from wich print is this? (sorry, I'm away from my disk with faksimiles). 1682 Livre de guittarre To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread Monica Hall
Thank's for the quote - from wich print is this? (sorry, I'm away from my disk with faksimiles). The quote is from Book 1 printed in 1682. Not that would make Robert's intentions much clearer. Leaving out a sol from the pitch name is possible (since it's redundant except, every d la is a

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread mathias.roe...@t-online.de
Sorry for the delay, I had and have to busy in my profession. May I assure you that these two theorbo mss. do exist. I have contacted the person who gave the xeroxes to me some ten years ago. The shelf marks are okay, Paris Bibliotheque National, but I'm not sure about the current whereabouts

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread mathias.roe...@t-online.de
NN simply is a gorgeous soloist. Mathias PS: My theorbo has 82 cm VSL, and it took a while until I got used to it, but today I wouldn't say any more that 82 cm is large at all. -Original-Nachricht- Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute strings for theorbo Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:03:52

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread David Smith
- From: R. Mattes [mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 12:42 AM To: David Smith; 'Mathias Rösel'; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:57:08 -0700, David Smith wrote Excuse me for what may be a stupid question but which

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread David van Ooijen
To: David Smith; 'Mathias Rösel'; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:57:08 -0700, David Smith wrote Excuse me for what may be a stupid question but which manuscripts are Paris BN 1575 and BN 25391? I have tried to search for these using

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread David Smith
Hello Andreas, Thank you for the information and the link. That helps me to understand where the On the BnF site I see the following when I search for De Visée theorbo music. Does this correspond to either F-Pn Rés. 1106 or F-Pn Rés. 1820? Type : musique imprimée et manuscrite, monographie

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:57:08 -0700, David Smith wrote Excuse me for what may be a stupid question but which manuscripts are Paris BN 1575 and BN 25391? I have tried to search for these using Google with no success. Where are they located, names

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread David van Ooijen
On 12 August 2011 19:19, Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: Paris Ms. Fonds Conservatoire National Rés. 1106 has another marking on it's front page: R 1575 (41035) David - one down, one to go Thank you, David! I only have the xeroxes. The other one possibly is Paris BN

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
NN simply is a gorgeous soloist. Mathias PS: My theorbo has 82 cm VSL, and it took a while until I got used to it, but today I wouldn't say any more that 82 cm is large at all. -Original-Nachricht- Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute strings for theorbo Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:03

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread R. Mattes
. was page-numbered, now dividing an allemande by LeMoine (p. 46-7 and p. 57). Perhaps these data will do to identify the manuscript? So, now that we seem to have traced down what manuscripts you are refering to, would you mind to elaborate a bit about Paris BN 1575 and BN 25391 are two theorbo mss

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
So, now that we seem to have traced down what manuscripts you are refering to, would you mind to elaborate a bit about Paris BN 1575 and BN 25391 are two theorbo mss. that abound with music by de Visee. Some concordances with Saizenay, but both mss. seem to be much earlier than 1699

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-12 Thread Monica Hall
now, that's 20-50 years of your dating (and that of the earliest De Visee guitar publication). Yes. So what? Pls ask Gary R. Boye, the author of that page, for his reasons. I think Gary Boye has copied a lot of his information from RISM which isn't very accurate. And he hasn't always

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
course an octave? The stress of the second course at such a short string length (at , say, A 415) is well below breaking stress. MH --- On Wed, 10/8/11, David Smith d...@dolcesfogato.com wrote: From: David Smith d...@dolcesfogato.com Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute Strings for theorbo

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
From: Martyn Hodgson hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo To: Taco Walstra wals...@science.uva.nl Date: Thursday, 11 August, 2011, 11:16 There are non-English sources which describe theorbos with only the first course

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Dear Taco, Thank you for this: I hope you will not mind me continuing since this matter of theorbo sizes still seems to be an area of misunderstanding. Incidentally, I'd be interested to know what I said which is 'not very logical' as you put it. . I raised the question

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread howard posner
On Aug 11, 2011, at 6:04 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: this matter of theorbo sizes still seems to be an area of misunderstanding. True, but we like you anyway. BTW, I recently saw Toy Story 3 with my family, and heartily recommend it. -- To get on or off this list see list information

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Well, dear Howard, I think we know your own view from much earlier exchanges. Is it that any size of theorbo would have had the top two courses an octave down since there was a wide range of Church pitches at the time? Thus somehow justifying modern theorboes in A with a string

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Christopher Wilke
Howard, --- On Thu, 8/11/11, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: BTW, I recently saw Toy Story 3 with my family, and heartily recommend it. -- I too saw Toy Story 3 and enjoyed it. There were no theorbos in the movie, but if there were, only a fool would disagree that they would

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread R. Mattes
in the movie, but if there were, only a fool would disagree that they would certainly have had only the top string reentrant or been pitched in D. ;-) Not even a toy theorbo (i.e. string length 80 cm)? Cheers RalfD Chris Christopher Wilke Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Christopher Pearcy
with a range of string lengths which Ray Nurse saw as representing related pitches as per viol consorts - treble, alto, tenor and bass lutes. Though I'm not suggesting the idea of a consort of theorbos playing together! Is it realistic to think that the 70s theorbo found its way to France where

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Taco Walstra
On 08/10/2011 07:54 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: Hi, I've the same type of SS theorbo, but in a 7+7 setup. Indeed it's a bit of searching for the right (5), 6 and 7th gutstringtype/diameter with the relative short 76 cm. I'm using only a loaded gut on the G (7th). This string behaves rather

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Taco Walstra
On 08/11/2011 09:30 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Playing close to the bridge is a story in itself. It's not proved that it was common practice on theorbo. It's logical however, but playing with nails was perhaps also used, or both. What you call historical practice... only lower the first course

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread David Smith
, 2011 12:57 AM To: Martyn Hodgson; lute net Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo On 08/11/2011 09:30 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Playing close to the bridge is a story in itself. It's not proved that it was common practice on theorbo. It's logical however, but playing with nails was perhaps

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
Historical practice was tuning small theorbos in dm, although even this is not very certain (it's mostly based on a few examples, like the pieces by visee which exist in staff notation and theorbo tablature). That's news to me, indeed. There is a theory that some theorbos were tuned in D

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Christopher Wilke
Mathias, --- On Thu, 8/11/11, Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: The theorbo pieces of de Visée's publication en musique stand a 4th higher than the correspondent tablature versions. Can the transposition of a 4th en musique be because deVisee was using his guitar pieces

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread R. Mattes
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 05:49:33 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Wilke wrote Mathias, --- On Thu, 8/11/11, Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote: The theorbo pieces of de Visée's publication en musique stand a 4th higher than the correspondent tablature versions. Can

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread R. Mattes
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:28:40 +0200, Mathias Rösel wrote I was speaking of the Pieces de Theorbe et de Luth, Mises en Partition Dessus et Basse, 1716 (facsimile Madrid, 1983). The guitar is not mentioned. I was speaking of the two printed guitar books from 1682 and 1686. No theorbo mentioned

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
I was speaking of the Pieces de Theorbe et de Luth, Mises en Partition Dessus et Basse, 1716 (facsimile Madrid, 1983). The guitar is not mentioned. I was speaking of the two printed guitar books from 1682 and 1686. No theorbo mentioned in those. That being so, it was off-topic, wasn't

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
I would object to the idea that some version is a rewrite of another version. I take all three version (guitar/theorbo/score) as renderings of the same compositional idea. A bit more than that, no? Exact transpositions of the same pieces, I'd say. Perhaps we won't be able to tell which

[LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-11 Thread David Smith
[mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Mathias Rösel Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 2:46 PM To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo I would object to the idea that some version is a rewrite of another version. I take all three version (guitar/theorbo/score

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-10 Thread David Smith
renaissance lute to theorbo. It is teaching me all kinds of new things about left hand technique and how to use my right hand thumb. It has been fun! Regards David -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of David van Ooijen Sent: Wednesday

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-10 Thread David Smith
Greetings, I have a Barber and Harris Lesser French Theorbo with 14 strings (7x1 and 7x1) with lengths of 760mm and 1400mm. The 7 diapasons are gut but the other are carbon fiber and silver wrapped. I bought the instrument used and would like to convert to all gut. I have

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-10 Thread David van Ooijen
David I play a SS theorbo like yours: 76/140cm, build for me in 1988. Current set-up is 6+8. First two strings re-entrant, tuned in a. 415/440 as required with the same set of strings. I've had all sorts of tensions over the years, but this is what it is at the moment: All-gut, obviously. 76cm 1

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Lute Strings for theorbo

2011-08-10 Thread Edward Martin
I have a great deal of experience with gut, but not theorbo. David is very passionate about gut, as am I. I would trust his string prescription, as he has had a great deal of experience with theorbos with gut. I am sure he has fine tuned his stringing (pun intended). ed At 12:54 PM 8/10

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo Strings...

2011-07-29 Thread Taco Walstra
On 07/29/2011 01:01 AM, Hector wrote: Dear all, A quick question. Any experience with the New Nylgut NNG and NGE as basses on a 85cm theorbo? I'm just thinking of stinging the short neck all with Nylgut. Currently I have Nylgut in the a-e-b-g and d (from the top), and I just wonder

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo Strings...

2011-07-29 Thread Martin Shepherd
wishes, Martin On 29/07/2011 00:01, Hector wrote: Dear all, A quick question. Any experience with the New Nylgut NNG and NGE as basses on a 85cm theorbo? I'm just thinking of stinging the short neck all with Nylgut. Currently I have Nylgut in the a-e-b-g and d (from the top), and I just wonder

[LUTE] Theorbo Strings...

2011-07-28 Thread Hector
Dear all, A quick question. Any experience with the New Nylgut NNG and NGE as basses on a 85cm theorbo? I'm just thinking of stinging the short neck all with Nylgut. Currently I have Nylgut in the a-e-b-g and d (from the top), and I just wonder if the NGE will work for the A and G as well

[LUTE] Re: Double stringed on a theorbo?

2011-06-27 Thread David Tayler
Just as combining the registers of a harpsichord produces a very different sound, so do double strings on a theorbo. It is clear that this quality sound was very much desired historically, and in many ways is the opposite of modern practice in professional circles. Well, there is a reason

[LUTE] Baroque LUTE and Theorbo for sale.

2011-06-12 Thread Anton Birula
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[LUTE] Baroque Lute and Theorbo for sale

2011-06-03 Thread Anton Birula
Dear Colleagues, We are selling two of our instruments Baroque lute 69/74 Burkholzer model spruce top, maple back Martin de Witte 2010, The Hague Holland price 4500Eur --- Theorbo 76/151 after Matteo Sellas spruce top yew back Martin de

[LUTE] Re: Double stringed on a theorbo?

2011-06-02 Thread Hilbert Jörg
Dear Chris, can it be, that the historical original to your old theorbo survived, because it was so big? A luthier just told me some days ago, that we may just know the more or less extravagant instruments of the old days, the representative ones with ivory or impressing ornaments etc

[LUTE] Re: Double stringed on a theorbo?

2011-06-02 Thread Hilbert Jörg
Dear Gabor, dar all, thank you very much for many most interesting answers! Let me just ask two more question: 1. Does somebody happen to be aware of a recording of an instrument, such as Gabors (bigger theorbo with double choruses)? 2. Do you think, Kapsberger, Piccinini or Castaldi used

[LUTE] Re: Double stringed on a theorbo?

2011-06-02 Thread Benjamin Narvey
Dear All, Very interesting thread. I have a very accurate reproduction of the huge d-minor Schelle German theorbo from Nuernberg, and this instrument has doubled courses on the petit jeu. I did briefly have it set up some years ago in this way and it sounded like a lovely

[LUTE] Re: Double stringed on a theorbo?

2011-06-02 Thread David van Ooijen
continuo options tend to be single-strung theorbo or double-strung archlute, and actual presence (needed in obligato parts or when alone on a bass line) versus general luty noise to be mixed in with the ensemble (default setting) are influenced by single/double strung more than by size or type

[LUTE] Re: Double stringed on a theorbo?

2011-06-02 Thread Christopher Wilke
Jorg, I don't know whether my big theorbo was based on a historical model or not. It was my first theorbo and I was just thrilled to have one. I finally decided to get rid of it and buy a smaller one when I had a bad experience in a performance. I made a page turn but the instrument

[LUTE] Double stringed on a theorbo?

2011-06-01 Thread Hilbert Jörg
Dear collected wisdom, as the old italian theorbos seemed to be quite huge and double stringed (for 1-6), I am not aware of anyone to play such an instrument in my neighborhood. I recently had the possibility to test an instrument of about 90 cm, which was amazing but single stringed. Does

[LUTE] Re: Double stringed on a theorbo?

2011-06-01 Thread Christopher Wilke
Jorg, I can only partially answer your question from experience. At one time I owned a huge theorbo (single strung) with a 99cm string length. Now I have thankfully gotten rid of the beast and play on a double strung toy with a 76cm fingerboard length. I usually use synthetic strings

[LUTE] Re: Double stringed on a theorbo?

2011-06-01 Thread Bruno Correia
Interesting to hear that someone plays a double string theorbo. I've never heard or seen it. Does it sound louder or maybe with more refinement than the single strung version? Does it have octaves on 5th and 6th courses? Could it be possible that the double course was used

[LUTE] Re: Double stringed on a theorbo?

2011-06-01 Thread David van Ooijen
A friend of mine plays a double-strung theorbo. I was not impressed with it, as regards to volume or projection. Strumming was 'fun' though. David On 1 June 2011 19:02, Bruno Correia bruno.l...@gmail.com wrote:   Interesting to hear that someone plays a double string theorbo. I've   never

[LUTE] Re: Double stringed on a theorbo?

2011-06-01 Thread Domján Gábor
Dear Jörg Yes, I have a double stringed huge theorbo. It is a copy of Tieffenbrucker RCM 26 in the Royal College of Music, London. I have it built a year ago being inspired by Lynda Sayce's thought provoking articles on her homepage. I wanted to hear how the originals might have sounded so

[LUTE] Baroque LUTE and Theorbo for sale.

2011-05-22 Thread Anton Birula
Dear Colleagues, We are selling two of our instruments Baroque lute 69/74 Burkholzer model spruce top, maple back Martin de Witte 2010, The Hague Holland price 4500Eur --- Theorbo 76/151 after Matteo Sellas spruce top yew back Martin de

[LUTE] Baroque LUTE and Theorbo for sale.

2011-05-17 Thread Anton Birula
Dear Colleagues I am selling two of my instruments Baroque Lute by Martin de Witte 2010 69/74 Burkholzer Model Theorbo after Sellas 2006 76/151 Pictures avaliable on request Best wishes, Anton Birula www.luteduo.com To get on or off this list see list information at http

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Marais with theorbo

2011-04-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On 28 April 2011 07:25, wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote: Beautiful and effective! Thanks David and Cassandra! And thanks to the guy with the mobile phone. He filmed and uploaded it without asking us (never noticed him in the concert). I came accross the video on YouTube while looking for something

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Marais with theorbo

2011-04-27 Thread wikla
Beautiful and effective! Thanks David and Cassandra! Arto On 28/04/11 00:53, David van Ooijen wrote: For those of you who might be wondering if I do anything serious these days, this is how I earn my living (actually, it was a fund raising concert ...):

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S

2011-03-23 Thread T.Kakinami
I introduce some pictures, Theorbo shipping using DHL. Please refer my blog. http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com/2011/03/theorbo-shipping-using-dhl.html Toshiaki Kakinami E-mail :  tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp Blog   : http

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S

2011-03-22 Thread T.Kakinami
I have received my theorbo from Italy to Japan last month. DHL was used. There is no damage on my theorbo and a Kingham case. Lute maker (sender) is Mr. Paolo Busato. Toshiaki Kakinami E-mail :  tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp Blog   : http

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S

2011-03-22 Thread T.Kakinami
Sorry, this is non U.S.-related. Kakinami -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of T.Kakinami Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 9:48 PM To: 'howard posner'; 'Lutelist' Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S I have

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S

2011-03-22 Thread Stephen Stubbs
: T.Kakinami tk...@orchid.plala.or.jp To: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com; Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 7:54:22 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S Sorry, this is non U.S.-related. Kakinami -Original Message- From: [1

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S

2011-03-22 Thread Graham Freeman
An interesting point is that the damage to my (now someone else's) theorbo came not during shipping but during the customs inspection. The case was an ultra-hardshell case by Jiri Bednar, but the damage to the peg was most likely the result of customs officials taking it roughly

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo shipping within the U.S

2011-03-22 Thread David Tayler
Secure the neck inside the case--in the event of a swift drop, that will go. Most cases have too much play in the neck, they need to be braces with foam or bubbles. Check if it possible to reduce the sideways compression of the case. You may be able to drill a tinyhole trought the flap that

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