On 21/02/2017 11:32, Rainer wrote:
As I already said, sometimes Vallet uses hold lines on empty strings.
Here is an example: In "La Courante Sarabande" (CNRS No. 74, page 177
or original source page 83) in bar 21 (first bar in 3rd stave in the
original) there is a hold line starting on th
As I already said, sometimes Vallet uses hold lines on empty strings.
Here is an example: In "La Courante Sarabande" (CNRS No. 74, page 177 or
original source page 83) in bar 21 (first bar in 3rd stave in the original) there is a
hold line starting on the open 6th course.
I think
Dear lute-netters,
has anybody out there read this article?
http://scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1112context=ppr
I wonder what others think about it.
Rainer adS
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important question: to use fingering as an
indication for a conscious choice of articulation the author would need to
show that Vallet did choose the most fitting fingering from a selection of
possible fingerings. But how else would you finger the last chord of
mss. 25? As for the cadencial ornament
There was another article about Vallet's fingerings by Laudon Schuett published
in the LSA Quarterly not so long ago. He reaches essentially the same
conclusions as Sandman that Vallet chose fingerings primarily for their musical
effect.
I'm curious about the origin of this article as well
Fingering (Vallet)
To: adS rainer.aus-dem-spr...@gmx.de, Lute net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Sunday, February 16, 2014, 9:36 AM
On Sun, 16 Feb 2014 12:15:23 +0100,
adS wrote
Dear lute-netters,
has anybody out there read this article?
Only after you posted this link - thanks for doing so
On 16.02.2014 20:43, Christopher Wilke wrote:
There was another article about Vallet's fingerings by Laudon Schuett published
in the LSA Quarterly not so long ago. He reaches essentially the same
conclusions as Sandman that Vallet chose fingerings primarily for their musical
effect.
I'm
The LSA has actually publishe 2 articles on Vallet recently - the one by
Laudon Schuett mentioned below and
The Brief Discours of Nicolas Vallet, from the Secret of the Muses
1615-1618 by Michael Stover - LSA Quarterly Spring 2012. If any of you
non-LSA membersd would like a copy email me
See the psalms and manuscript previously posted to fill out the entry.
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: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: New UR Research Publications [Lute MS
Vallet psalms]
I meant to mention the Goy/Schlegel list. It's also in Boetticher's
RISM volume with a rather poor description. The Vallet prints seem to
be unknown to Souris in the modern edition of Vallet, rev. Goy. But the
Ms
,
There's not much that I can add.The manuscript is bound with Livre
1 and Livre 2 of Nicolas Vallet *Secret des Muses* (Amsterdam 1618,
1619), and *[21] Psalmen Davids* (1619), second editions made from
plates of the first editions. Purchased 1933 from the great Berlin
music antiquarian
cher Jean-Marie
contrairement à ce que tu dis, ce manuscrit est dans la liste
d'Andreas et François-Pierre sous le sigle US 186, je crois
Amicalement
Jean-François Christoflour
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I meant to mention the Goy/Schlegel list. It's also in Boetticher's
RISM volume with a rather poor description. The Vallet prints seem to
be unknown to Souris in the modern edition of Vallet, rev. Goy. But the
Ms. is cited. So it's n ot entirely unknown. ajn
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Perhaps none of our friends from the Dutch Lute Society is on this list,
so I'll promote their introductory offer (valid until 30 april):
There will be a new Vallet facsimile edition in spring
1. facsimile-editie van de werken van Vallet € 75 NOW € 65
2. dubbel-CD met muziek van Vallet € 22
Mignarda Editions is pleased to announce availability of Angelique:
Selected Lute Solos by Robert
Ballard Nicolas Vallet, a new performing edition of selected lute
solos by Robert Ballard and
Nicolas Vallet. The entirely new collection consists of some of the
best music by both
Lovely to listen to, however it was achieved! A thought to comfort you
as you are tied to the stake . . .
Bill
From: Tobiah t...@tobiah.org
To: 'Lute Net' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Monday, 2 April 2012, 1:21
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vallet score and recording
On 4/1/2012 1
, Tobiah t...@tobiah.org wrote:
From: Tobiah t...@tobiah.org
Subject: [LUTE] Vallet score and recording
To: 'Lute Net' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Saturday, March 31, 2012, 11:28 PM
There is a .pdf that I made with Finale,
and a recording of the piece I made after
finishing
On 4/1/2012 1:20 AM, Lex van Sante wrote:
To me it sounds like a classical guitar with a capo on III
Lex
You caught me, the heretical witch that I am.
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On 31/03/2012 21:28, Tobiah wrote:
There is a .pdf that I made with Finale,
and a recording of the piece I made after
finishing it.
http://tobiah.org/vallet
Tobiah
Very good!
Stuart
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On 3/31/2012 2:12 PM, stephen arndt wrote:
Hello, Tobiah,
That was very impressive. Your tone is exceptionally clear. What did you
record with?
Thanks!
I have a pair of RØDE NT1-A mics. They are hailed for
their low self-noise. I plug those into a Mackie 1402-VLZPro
mixer, and into my
On 1 April 2012 01:03, Tobiah t...@tobiah.org wrote:
I have a pair of RØDE NT1-A mics. They are hailed for
their low self-noise. I plug those into a Mackie 1402-VLZPro
mixer, and into my computer through an Echo Mia MIDI Soundcard.
I used Reaper as the recording software. I did one single
Thank you for your detailed explanations. I recently bought a Rode
NT1-A and 1402-VLZPro as well, and am very pleased with the very clear
recordings I can make now.
How strange that our choices of equipment were so similar. Great
minds think alike? This is getting way off topic, but I'm not
Even better, I'm on the same page as Rick Stein! :- Yes, best day
in my carreer!
David - playing St. John for days on end till Easter, not bad either
On 23 March 2012 10:51, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote:
I've recorded some Vallet (at home) for a Japanese TV-programme
://kakitoshilute.blogspot.com
*
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Of David van Ooijen
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vallet on Japanese TV
Even better, I'm on the same
Hi Shaun
Nicolas Vallet
Secretum Musarum, Boeck 1, Amsterdam 1615
http://www.gerbode.net/ft2/composers/Vallet/secret_des_muses_v1_1615/source/
Le secret des muses, le second livre, Amsterdam 1616
http://www.gerbode.net/ft2/composers/Vallet/secret_des_muses_v2_1616/source/
Best wishes
Karl
http://gerbode.net/ft2/sources/vallet/
Rainer adS
On 25.03.2010 13:30, Shaun Ng wrote:
Dear All,
I was wondering if Nicolas Vallet's Secret de Muses (1615) is available
online in facsimile. I am looking to do some research on his
ornaments.
Many thanks.
Shaun Ng
Dear All,
I was wondering if Nicolas Vallet's Secret de Muses (1615) is available
online in facsimile. I am looking to do some research on his
ornaments.
Many thanks.
Shaun Ng
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Dear collectors
I have to compare the different versions of the Vallet prints (except Regia
Pietas). If somebody has films or copies of original books (not the
STIMU-facsimile), please contact me directly.
The history of these prints is more complicated than written in Louis Peter
Grijp's
, March 11, 2010 9:21 AM
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Subject: [LUTE] Vallet
Dear collectors
I have to compare the different versions of the Vallet prints (except Regia
Pietas). If somebody has films or copies of original books (not the
STIMU-facsimile), please contact me directly.
The history of these prints
I tried to show the guitar pupils at my music school what a lute is,
so after a short explanation I played a few pieces at the pupil's
concert. During Slaep Soete Slaep (Sleep Sweet Sleep) by Vallet they
started coughing in stead of dozing of. Something I did? Anyway, a
colleague made a decent
They should have been applauding!
On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:45 PM, David van Ooijen wrote:
they
started coughing in stead of dozing of.
Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp
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On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Rob MacKillop
luteplay...@googlemail.com wrote:
Such a shame about the cough at the end - a really nice performance
throughout.
Thanks. I left out (most of the) the repeats and played the three
peices attacca. It was at the end of the concert and the pupils,
(Secretum).
Andreas
Am 31.12.2008 um 15:32 schrieb Susanne Herre:
Dear Lutenists,
I just played Vallet. He uses this sign II very often. I'm
wondering if it means to play with the thumb or the middle
finger. Is
there already a change in playing technique on the 10
course
at the
time impossible but the next generation were certainly leaning towards
thumb-out.
Sean
On Dec 31, 2008, at 6:32 AM, Susanne Herre wrote:
Dear Lutenists,
I just played Vallet. He uses this sign II very often. I'm
wondering if it means to play with the thumb
Very interesting!
Thank you, Andreas and Sean!
Susanne
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To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:04 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Vallet - thumb or middle finger?
It's a notation to use the middle
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From: Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ron Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:29 PM
Subject: O'Dette: Vallet Le Secret des Muses
Dear all,
track no.3 of the mentioned CD is a
Bourrée d'Avignon, probably from the second part
of Le
Le 23 août 07 à 10:00, LGS-Europe a écrit :
why on earth do record companies function like that?
They must have their logic with escapes me; and indeed, I wonder
Economics. I f a musician goes on tour with the programme he's playing
available in cd, he'll sell the cd.
Well, in this
really did want to understand what the problem might be.
To come back to your Vallet:
Listening to your sets of recordings, as always, is interesting. It
suddenly struck me that in the past, most hifi was made with an array
of filters so that the listener could tweak the sound
Le 22 août 07 à 17:14, LGS-Europe a écrit :
When I want Beethoven, I buy Brendel, and I will respect all his
choices as part of the unity that he presents to me. Other player,
other choices, including sound. Compare Hoppy's and Nigel North's
Dowland recordings. Not just a different
I think there is a spacial communication you get hearing the music
live that will never be there on the CD. It includes the ability to
watch the performer's body language and their opportunity to feel the
communication coming back from the audience. This is the reason many
musicians love
Nancy
That is indeed, interesting, I thought it was the contrary. I
thought the recordings were made following the concerts, or
occasionally during the concerts. I did not realize, at all, that the
recording was made before the performer began his concerts.
Obviously you are quite
: Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nancy Carlin [EMAIL PROTECTED];
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 10:16 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Rép : [LUTE] Vallet with a stutter
Nancy
That is indeed, interesting, I thought it was the contrary. I
thought
Dear All,
I was wondering if anyone has a copy of Vallet's version of the Earl of
Essex Galliard which they could send to me. I can't find it online in any
of the usual places and was hoping that someone out there might have an
e-mailable version. Fronimo, Django, PDF, Tab, scans - all welcome!
This request has been fulfilled thanks to quick-off-the-mark David van
Ooijen, who supplied me with a fantastic copy.
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Sent: 13 January 2007 13:40
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Vallet - Gaillarde du comte essex
Has anyone translated into English the Petit discours at the
beginning of Vallet's Le Secret des Muses?
Thanks,
Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
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Dear Taco and All:
When Nigel played Vallet in a concert not long ago, he mentioned that he
thought his composition style ideal for a 10-course lute, a kind of paragon of
writing for that instrument. (I'm paraphrasing here, from memory, of course.)
So
that may explain in part his recording
I just came across a new CD containing music by Nicolaes Vallet from his 'Le
secret des muses'. The music is played by Nigel North, who will certainly
have become more familiar with dutch lute music nowadays as succesor of
Toyohikoh Satoh at the dutch conservatory at the hague
Mathias Rösel wrote:
Taco Walstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
I just came across a new CD containing music by Nicolaes Vallet from his 'Le
secret des muses'. The music is played by Nigel North,
..
Recommended!
Nicolas vallet - le secret des muses ACD2 2333 (ATMA)
what do you think about
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 13:58, you wrote:
what do you think about Paul O'Dette's Nicolas Vallet (1583-1642). Le
Secret des Muses (harmonia mundi 2004)?
I forgot that he also recorded vallet. Don't know that one. Certainly very
well; I attended a concert with dutch lute music by him a few years
Can anyone tell me if the tenuto lines in the tab in Le Secret Des
Muses published by Editions du Centre National are editorial? If
original, are they quite unambiguous in the original copy?
TIA
Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
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Hi Ed,
I just have the edition of the dutch lute society with the facsimiles. But in
case you could tell me the details I could look them up and tell you if they
are in the original.
Anyhow - there ARE tenuto lines in the facsimile, some of which I think are
rather an ideal than a real playing
Well that is pretty much what I wanted to know. I can't read the
preface so I thought it might have been mentioned in there.
Thank you.
On May 15, 2006, at 8:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just have the edition of the dutch lute society with the
facsimiles. But in case you could tell me
the
HUngry Monks.
Some CNRS editions now come wityh an additiojnal volume that contains just
the tabkature. I do not recall if this is the case with the Vallet
Oeuvres. One might also wait for the Dutch Lute Society to re-issue their
facsimile of the complet Vallet works.
Eric Haas [EMAIL
On Monday 22 November 2004 08:18, you wrote:
The dutch lute society has the book as facsimile edition. Unfortunately no
stock of le secret des muses part I anymore, but part II (limited number),
regia pietas and psalms David are still available. The book (part I and II)
will be reprinted next
Hello Everyone,
I'm trying to locate Nicolas Vallet's Le Secret Des Muses Premier Livre
1615 for a friend. I have a CNRS edition that I use but it looks like it's
out of print. Does anyone have any idea where I could find one or any other
publication of it?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Ken
Dear members,
I've trying to find and purchase any available edition of Vallet solo =
lute music, and so far the only thing I've found, was the second volume, =
published by the Dutch LS.
All the other books are out of print, as well as the CNRS edition.=20
Is there anyone willing to sell his own
Greetings all,
Does anyone have a copy of 'Un jour de la semaine' by Vallet for single lute in either
Fronimo or TAB that they would be gracious enough to send to me. My thanks in advance.
Regards,
Craig
Hello Everyone,
I'm working on some Vallet preludes (CNRS edition) and I'm quite undecided
on the tempo to play number 11. I'm liking it at both m.m quarter note = 80
and also at 92. Suggestions please!
Thanks.
Ken Brodkey
Luthier
Hello Everyone,
I have the CNRS edition of Vallet and I'm wondering (not being able to speak
or read French) if the fingerings for the right and left hands notated in
the tablature are editorial? My feeling is that they are not, but as I'm
encountering some interesting fingerings I'm very curious
Dear Ed,
The Dutch Lute Society publish a facsimile of Vallet's _Le Secret
des Muses_.
Which is, as far as I can tell, out of catalogue (I was only able to buy two
volumes).
I hope they re publish the whole thing, as it is a very good edition, with a
fairly good price.
Regards,
A
On Saturday 29 May 2004 01:50, Edward Martin wrote:
Dear Jeff,
I believe that this item is available from the Dutch Lute Society, but I do
not have the URL.
The new url is:
http://www.luitvereniging.nl
Of the Vallet facsimile edition are only a few copies left. A reprint is -what
I've
instrumental preludes for
solo lute by Vallet. Performing will be Sadie Luke, Voice and Gary
Digman, Ten Course Renaissance Lute. The Concert will begin at 7:30
P.M. at:
The Chapel of the Roses
Spring Lake Village
Dear all,
Does somebody know the contents (pieces list) of the next O'Dette's
Vallet CD?
Thanks in advance.
Best wishes
From http://harmoniamundi.com/HMboutique/Product.asp?HMID=8699
Vallet: Le Secret des Muses
Paul O'Dette
Usually ships in 1 business day
harmonia mundi
HMU 907300
Someone recently posted a mention of Paul O'Dette releasing a new CD
of
music of Nicolas Vallet. Does anyone
Thanks!
ed
At 09:52 AM 12/8/03 -0500, Daniel Shoskes wrote:
From http://harmoniamundi.com/HMboutique/Product.asp?HMID=8699
Vallet: Le Secret des Muses
        Paul O'Dette
Usually ships in 1 business day
harmonia mundiÂ
 HMU 907300
Someone recently posted a mention
Thanks!
ed
At 04:18 PM 12/8/03 +0100, Taco Walstra wrote:
On Monday 08 December 2003 14:20, Edward Martin wrote:
Someone recently posted a mention of Paul O'Dette releasing a new CD of
music of Nicolas Vallet. Does anyone have details? I went to the Harmonia
Mundi web site
Fair use is a legal concept that applies, albeit with great vagueness,
to
use of items protected by copyright. It is irrelevant to material in the
public domain.
Quite correct Howard, both as to vagueness and public domain. But where it
becomes even more vague is when someone compiles items
: vallet
At 04:38 PM 10/6/2003 +0200, arielabramovich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I don't enjoy stealing books
According to Anatole France stealing of books and bread is perfectly
legitimate.
Meanwhile Scioto Valley Miasmatron wrote:
Photocopying a book without permission of the owner
MO, your own business practices are so far removed from being kosher, that
your moralization is nothing more than a joke that outlived its punch-line.
Yes I know. I admit it and I hang my head down with abject shame.
Abject poverty of heart and mind, but not shame, I'm afraid
RT
On Sunday 05 October 2003 17:18, arielabramovich wrote:
Especially the dutch lute society facsimiles of Vallet are very reasonably
priced, which is absolutely not something to compare with Minkoff.
But in my opinion even Minkoff is justified to ask the high prices for their
editions
At 04:38 PM 10/6/2003 +0200, arielabramovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
don't enjoy stealing books
[snip]
I don't think photocopying for personal use is dishonest
Photocopying a book without permission of the owner is stealing. Stealing
is dishonest. It is also illegal. The only reason you
Dear all
The prices of Vallet books are very affordable!
In October 2002 they were:
Vol. 1 21 Psalmen Davids 12 euro (50 pages of music)
Vol. 2 Regia Pietas18(169 pages of music)
Vol. 3 Secretum musarum 1 18(194 pages of music)
Vol. 4 Secretum musarum 2 12
At 04:50 PM 10/6/2003 -0400, Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MO, your own business practices are so far removed from being kosher, that
your moralization is nothing more than a joke that outlived its punch-line.
Yes I know. I admit it and I hang my head down with abject shame. I am just
Dear friends,
The main reason why I was asking for Vallet in any =
digital format, is because I find the prices of some editions totally =
out of proportions with my income as a professional musician.
There's no justification for example for Minkoff=B4s
Dear Ariel and All:
The Vallet editions from the Dutch lute society are reasonably priced, as
I recall, and of quite good quality.
Yours,
Jim
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