Michael,
That is well said. If someone adds value to an object then they deserve to
be paid for that. Value could be as simple as going to various sites
(physical) and collecting them, or as complete as making an edition with
fingering hints and historical notes added. As to the purchase of
Thanks all for the most useful tips. I had feared as much, that guitar
strings wouldn't do the trick. Being someone who's got 10 left thumbs when it comes
to practical matters, I hate anything fiddly like putting on new strings, and
had just hoped there might be a way of getting the strings to
Open letter to Michael Thames
who announced to place a TREE facsimile edition to the wwweb.
from Albert Reyerman, TREE EDITION
Dear Mr. Thames,
first of all I would like to correct you: in the BACH/Weyrauch
facsimile edition the copyright notice is printed on the very first page
(in 24
Hello Albert,
Thanks, that was very clear. I agree with you.
Allan Alexander
188 1st St
Troy, NY 12180-4436
Open letter to Michael Thames
who announced to place a TREE facsimile edition to the wwweb.
from Albert Reyerman, TREE EDITION
Dear Mr. Thames,
first of all I would like
Thank you, Mr. Reyerman.
Whether the music itself is in the public domain or not,
reproducing/distributing the work of others (in this case, Mr. Reyerman's production
and
publication of a facsimile) without compensation or permission is disrespectful as
well
as unethical.
Thanks to those
Bravo! It is good to hear from someone who can remind other musicians
and scholars how much time, work, and expense is involved in producing
a good edition!
GJC
Date sent: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 17:16:59 +0100
To: Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copies to:
..And so, on a personal note, the grand celestial question remains, does
TREE EDITION (European Patent Register No. 1 038 427) control _all rights
toward ANY form of reproduction of the information found upon the pages of
mss_, or simply the _ visible images of the pages_ that they worked so
Dear Michael,
I'm sure your heart is in the right place with this, but I suspect
that you have not really thought it through. Setting aside the
legalities for a moment, which I am sure others on the list will
tell you about, why not try going through the motions of being
a publisher yourself?
Dear Rainer,
From your comments re: Spanish sources you are clearly aware
of the references to thumb out in the vihuela literature but
other readers of the list may not know this so well.
The best source of information on right hand technique that I know of
is Paul Beier's Right Hand Position in
Dear Michael,
You make many points, so I shall scatter my comments amongst yours.
Best wishes,
Stewart McCoy.
- Original Message -
From: Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Lute Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 4:29 PM
Subject: Facsimeles etc.
Let
Fred Bone at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..And so, on a personal note, the grand celestial question remains, does
TREE EDITION (European Patent Register No. 1 038 427) control _all rights
toward ANY form of reproduction of the information found upon the pages of
mss_, or simply the _ visible
Christopher Schaub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I always find it curious when people say that Dowland switched to thumb-out as
if he'd abandoned thumb-under. Imagine (close your eyes, it helps) the best
lute player in the world today, he has been playing thumb-under for most of
his career. If
Would, say, Dowland have been surprised at 21st century culture, where 99%
of music is commercial and a ready source of litigation?
Has there always been music of such aggressive crassness as is heard (in
abundant volume) on any city street corner?
I'm not anti-Tree, but I do wonder whether
This whole discussion remains me of that beatiful sentence with which
Wittgenstein finished his Tractatus, written back in 1918:
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darueber muss man schweigen.
About those things one can not speak, it is necessary to remain silent.
Wittgenstein said this in a much
Dear colleagues,
This thread has been very interesting to me because of my own research. Mr
Thames brought up a logical question with legal, moral, and practical
questions. The replies to his query have been thought-provoking. I am
grateful to Mr Reyerman for sharing his expertise.
I like the
But again: place YOURS and not MINE.
That is grossly untrue: It is Bach's and Weyrauch's (i.e. belonging to the
World), and you [Albert Reyermann] merely BORROWED it. And your noble
purpose has no bearing on this matter.
RT
Dear Uncle Albert,
Calm down my good man! I deeply apologies for not seeing your
copyright, I think by the time I got to the bottom of the page I went a
little cross-eyed from all the German and mistook the copyright for a trade
mark. Again I'm sorry! I'm totally naive when it comes to
Manolo,
It is a real shame that Albert Reyerman had to explain with full details
how much work it means publishing (= making public) something, in this
case lute manuscripts. It is a shame because he had to, out of the
feeling that his work was being neglected
On the contrary, Manolo, I have a
At 06:32 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My interest in old things also applies to Facsimiles of lute music. My
only crime has been my naivety in wanting to share this wonderful
experience with others, some of whom, it may not have occurred to them to
even look
On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 07:03 PM, Manolo Laguillo wrote:
It sounds the same as if somebody would say the following:
I can't understand why you as a luthier charges that much for a lute.
You are only cutting pieces of wood with a knife, and then putting them
together.
I'm sure you
Why stop at facsimiles? Why not make all their published music
available for free downloading? This would be such a great service
to everyone, wouldn't it, because then we wouldn't have the trouble
and expense of actually acquiring the books legitimately ourselves.
A good and noble idea,
Well said Howard,
I have been reading a copy of Grout's History of Western Music given my by
my daughter in law in my attempt to return to proper music and remind myself
of the theory. There are many facsimiles of ancient originals in that book.
Under U.S. law I'd have no problem scanning them
On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 07:32 PM, Michael Thames wrote:
After this experience, You can bet I will do everything in my
power to
access these works of Bach, and free them to the world. God forbid
you
come across any Weiss, then I'll really get mad!
St. Michael the Liberator! I
G'day Daniel,
While others are fussing over facsimiles I'll have a go at your questions
1) What are the early signs that lute strings and frets need to be
replaced? (short of the obvious
late decomposition)
The 3 warning signs of an impending string change are
1) Your gut string is
David, well said,
You have hit several topics so I'll do the same snip and answer that you
did (my aging brain can't keep it all together).
Well, whatever they were doing, they were doing what we ourselves can
do: they were looking at the lute players of their own day. If you
want to see
From: guy_and_liz Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I used to be a fairly serious competitive fencer (saber),
Really? I fenced saber, in mid 70's
RT
Relax Montana,
I see you have quite alot of baggage with this issue, to go after me with
your well known guile, and considering remarks. You truly take the prize
for vileness, your reputation precedes you.
Again, glad to be the scapegoat for you Publishing kind of guys, but
as you say
St. Michael the Liberator!
Come to think of it I kind of like that name! it seems to fit doesn't
it.
Michael Thames
Luthier
www.ThamesClassicalGuitars.com
Site design by Natalina Calia-Thames
- Original Message -
From: David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Michael Thames [EMAIL
Jason:
There are no fingering dots in either part 1 (1552) or part 2 (1553) of
the Hortus Musarum collections as published in facsimile by Office
International de Librarie, made from the copy in the Royal Conservatory
Library in Brussels.
Daniel Heiman
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:58:30 -0500 Jason
Mantana,
I'm surprised that you know me so well, after having just met tonight,
and full to the brim of nasty condescending observations, about my character
too.
Why don't you use some of that sparkling intellect of yours, and simply
answer my question. What is my crime? Asking few
At 09:56 PM 12/2/2003 -0600, Michael Thames [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Relax Montana,
That can work both ways, distorting people's names intentionally. But I
will resist the urge to engage in this juvenile silliness.
I see you have quite alot of baggage with this issue, to go after me with
On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 10:20 PM, Michael Thames wrote:
On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 07:32 PM, Michael Thames wrote:
After this experience, You can bet I will do everything in my
power to
access these works of Bach, and free them to the world. God forbid
you
come across any
On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 11:21 PM, Michael Thames wrote:
St. Michael the Liberator!
Come to think of it I kind of like that name! it seems to fit
doesn't
it.
Does have a certain ring to it, doesn't it? Hey, go for it! :-) :-)
:-)
David R. (ho! ho!)
Interesting reading...umm..
Just to elaborate on Matanya's URL for free downloadable music, I have a download page
at Bach Plucked! which includes other Bach and related music for free. See
http://bachplucked.com/download.htm
I have pondered on this subject and agree it raises many
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