Thomas,
I risk it, I speak to the English language and sound. I haven't the vaguest
idea what the term Bourdon means, but if your description is right I would
call it sympathetic vibrations. That would not apply to the bagpipes, as
they are very unsympathetic (to most people g, although I was
On Friday 30 January 2004 06:50, Jon Murphy wrote:
Dear Jon,
I wonder if this Catherine is helped by your explanation because you do not
explain anything of the background of differences between temperaments in
your long e-mail. For example meantone has pure thirds etc. If you want the
explain
Taco,
Your message is well taken, but the details of the specific differences is
what I was trying to avoid. My impression from her message was that she
needed a small impression of the idea of temperaments rather than a full
description. As her message to me was off the harp list I expect that
Oh yes! VERY tastefull and decent!
Am Fre, 2004-01-30 um 12.14 schrieb Christopher Schaub:
I love the very tasteful frame.
--- Arne Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear all,
there is a strange old portrait of a left-handed
lute player up for auction at:
Wow, what a discussion.
Let us first define the Church. And we'll only look at the Christian
church as we are speaking of Europe. The Church in medieval times (and the
Dark Ages, if you want to seperate them, I don't) was the Roman Church. But
this was a relatively late development in that first
Hi all
On Friday 30 January 2004 15:03, Roman Turovsky wrote:
I am suspicious. Looks too much like Arto Wikla.
there is a strange old portrait of a left-handed
lute player up for auction at:
http://www.stores.ebay.com/id=16216871ssPageName=L2
Well, I don't know what to think... ;)
Yuck! Boy, I wouldn't bid on that one. Maybe the frame is 17th
century, but I doubt that the painting is. I think that a 17th
century artist would have had a better idea of what a lute looked
like. How about early 20th century? Could the lute be one of the
wandervogel lute-guitars?
Tim
Dear All,
Just a footnote - well-tempered is not the same as equal-tempered.
No one knows exactly which temperament Bach had in mind when he wrote the WTC but
there are some strong candidates amongst temperaments which were popular at the time.
The late John Barnes wrote an article in Early
The WTC then becomes an interesting exercise in *composing* in different keys
(because each key has its own character), rather than an exercise in *playing*
in any key (which is trivial).
This is a matter of opinion, and I personally find nothing trivial about it.
Unequal temperament may give
On Friday, January 30, 2004, at 04:01 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
The WTC then becomes an interesting exercise in *composing* in
different keys
(because each key has its own character), rather than an exercise in
*playing*
in any key (which is trivial).
I'm sorry - writing for writing. Try
The WTC then becomes an interesting exercise in *composing* in
different keys
(because each key has its own character), rather than an exercise in
*playing*
in any key (which is trivial).
I'm sorry - writing for writing. Try to play ''in any key''!
This is a matter of opinion, and I
I consider this painting on Ebay is just another piece of evidence to demonstrate that
left-handed players DID exist and play even the 17th century.
Jean-Marie Poirier (another 20th century left-hander) ;-)))
(By the way it could be fun to know how many of us play the other way round, just to
Yuck! Boy, I wouldn't bid on that one. Maybe the frame is 17th
century, but I doubt that the painting is. I think that a 17th
century artist would have had a better idea of what a lute looked
like. How about early 20th century? Could the lute be one of the
wandervogel lute-guitars?
Tim
At 18:23 30-01-2004 +0100, jmpoirier2 wrote:
I consider this painting on Ebay is just another piece of evidence to
demonstrate that left-handed players DID exist and play even the 17th century.
Jean-Marie Poirier (another 20th century left-hander) ;-)))
(By the way it could be fun to know how
Roman Turovsky at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Monteverdi operas modulate sufficiently for Claudio M. to have him ask his
musicians to tune in ET, for which he suffered criticism from a gentleman
named Artusi. Who remembers Artusi now?
Alas, I can't seem to find my list of the persons who
Monteverdi operas modulate sufficiently for Claudio M. to have him ask his
musicians to tune in ET, for which he suffered criticism from a gentleman
named Artusi. Who remembers Artusi now?
Alas, I can't seem to find my list of the persons who remember Artusi now.
I also can't find any
Hi David:
Thank You, and thank you again.
It seems that my casual remarks to a casual question about the authority of
the church has provoked the passion of one or more members of the list. Why
this is I do not know. It is as though there are those who expect a
detailed astro-physical
Either way, the media don't invent it; they produce general
knowledge of it.
True and relevant, of course. But I would guess that
Priest X, who buys his meat from Calverde, bought
his office from Bishop Y.
must have been common village gossip in the Medieval world.
I read
At 02:06 PM 1/30/2004 -0800, Vance Wood wrote:
Hi David:
Thank You, and thank you again.
It seems that my casual remarks to a casual question about the authority of
the church has provoked the passion of one or more members of the list. Why
this is I do not know.
It is because, like my
Vance Wood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems that my casual remarks to a casual question about the authority of
the church has provoked the passion of one or more members of the list.
It may seem that way to you. It seems to me that someone disagreed with
you.
HP
Roman wrote:
Monteverdi operas modulate sufficiently for Claudio M. to have him ask his
musicians to tune in ET, for which he suffered criticism from a gentleman
named Artusi.
I wrote:
I ... can't find any reference to equal temperament from either Monteverdi
or Artusi. Perhaps you
Wow! That's a good one Roman, you really got me that time.
Vance Wood.
- Original Message -
From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LUTE-LIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Church authority in the Renaissance.
I might add that it is said of
Martin Shepherd:
And ET is not indispensable for modulation - as I hoped I had made clear,
it is just one of many temperaments which allow modulation to any key. It
also has the unfortunate effect of making all keys sound the same, and
therefore largely removes the point of modulating in
Roman wrote:
Monteverdi operas modulate sufficiently for Claudio M. to have him ask his
musicians to tune in ET, for which he suffered criticism from a gentleman
named Artusi.
I wrote:
I ... can't find any reference to equal temperament from either Monteverdi
or Artusi. Perhaps you could
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