[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-25 Thread Jurgen Frenz
oops sorry part of the link was gone it's all there, thanks a lot! Jurgen -- “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 26 July 2018 12:32 AM, Alain Veylit wrote: > I think this is the one

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-25 Thread Jurgen Frenz
Sorry your links create a "not found" error -- “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 26 July 2018 12:32 AM, Alain Veylit wrote: > I think this

[LUTE] Luttes of Cullane and Venice?

2018-07-25 Thread theoj89294
All: The Scottish Customs Tariffs of Oct 31, 1612 lists "Luttes of Cullane with case" and "Luttes of Venice with case". Does anyone know what these terms Cullane and Venice mean? There is also some information about strings: "catlingis" and "manikins", and misc other

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-25 Thread howard posner
> Tonic, dominant, etc? When did this start? “Tonic" and “dominant" are from Rameau’s 1722 Treatise on Harmony. I can’t swear he invented the terms, but he’s the reason they’re used. Describing music in harmonic terms is his legacy. The Treatise was published less than 20 years after

[LUTE] bergamasca

2018-07-25 Thread Martin Shepherd
Hi All, Can anyone recommend a Bergamasca (or whatever you want to call it with a I-IV-V bass) in F, preferably early, preferably Italian? Thanks, Martin --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus To get on or off this list

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-25 Thread spiffys84121
The Gianoncelli Bergamesca from 1650 for archlute is superb. I played it last month for O'dette's master class. Sterling Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Martin Shepherd Date: 7/25/18 3:31 AM (GMT-07:00) To: Lute

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-25 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Not quite Italian but extremely rewarding is the setting in Bésard. http://gerbode.net/sources/Besard/thesaurus_harmonicus_1603/book_05/pdf/187_bergamasco.pdf Am 25.07.2018 um 11:31 schrieb Martin Shepherd: Hi All, Can anyone recommend a Bergamasca (or whatever you want to call it with a

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-25 Thread Luca Manassero
Very interesting! Could you or somebody else on this list provide the original? thank you in advance! Luca On mer, 25 lug 2018 11:51:45 +0200 spiffys84121 wrote The Gianoncelli Bergamesca from 1650 for archlute is superb. I played it last month for O'dette's

[LUTE] chord names

2018-07-25 Thread Leonard Williams
As chordal music (as opposed to polyphonic) became more prevalent, and many modes became history, how were chords named? G maj, A min, ...? Tonic, dominant, etc? When did this start? Just curious. Regards, Leonard Williams -- To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-25 Thread G. C.
The guitarists spring to mind with their alfabetto and chord diagrams: Foscarini, Sanz, Pablo Minguet y Yrol etc. G. On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 2:54 PM, Leonard Williams <[1]arc...@verizon.net> wrote: As chordal music (as opposed to polyphonic) became more prevalent,

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-25 Thread G. C.
Juan Carlos Amat's little book Guitarra Espanola y Vandola (?) was published already in 1596 but the earliest surviving edition is from 1627. [1]https://imslp.org/wiki/Guitarra_espa%C3%B1ola%2C_y_vandola_(Amat%2C_ Juan_Carlos) -- References 1.

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-25 Thread G. C.
Interestingly, the compendium is for spanish guitar of 5 courses, 2 pages about the 4 couse guitar and then the same again in catalan, but with improved diagrams. (The text says that the first version was made in 1586 already!)

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-25 Thread Luca Manassero
thank you very much! Luca On mer, 25 lug 2018 19:32:00 +0200 Alain Veylit wrote I think this is the one - famously used by Respighi in his Ancient Airs and Dances [1]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/images/facsimiles/Italian/Gianon celli/G_P8.jpg

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-25 Thread Alain Veylit
I think this is the one - famously used by Respighi in his Ancient Airs and Dances [1]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/images/facsimiles/Italian/Gianon celli/G_P8.jpg [2]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/images/facsimiles/Italian/Gianon celli/G_P9.jpg On 07/25/2018