[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread David van Ooijen
Music, like grammar, is descriptive rather than prescriptive. That doesn't make it less relevant. David On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 at 21:36, Leonard Williams <[1]arc...@verizon.net> wrote: I have often wondered if the rules of music, like many of those for

[LUTE] Re: tab program

2018-07-26 Thread Alain Veylit
Thanks Wayne, After a quick test, this works for acute, grave and circumflex e accents - no reason to doubt it supports the rest. I switched from vi to Geany a (long) while ago... It is a simple and sophisticated  IDE at the same time - the antithesis of Visual Studio:  light weight,

[LUTE] Re: tab program

2018-07-26 Thread Alain Veylit
A quick question about Wayne's tab program: how do I get the French accents (e acute, e grave) to display correctly in the titles? I am getting slashed Os instead of 'é' (e acute) for example, and a slashed L for 'è'. The c cedilla however is fine, and u umlaut ... Example: { Bourrée } Also:

[LUTE] Re: tab program

2018-07-26 Thread wayne lute
you would type { Bourr\'ee } with the warning that some modern text editing programs change the characters around. the single quote, for example, may be rewritten as a special character which is half of a pair of balanced quotes. Mac TextEdit does this, and you have to turn off smart

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread Leonard Williams
How would musicians like Dowland or Johnson have named their chords? Were they thinking in chord progressions, modalities, incidental chords arising in polyphonic cadences? I guess this is a question of music theory evolution. Leonard -Original Message- From:

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Musicians and Music Theorists are rarely one and the same person :) It is not necessary to name or classify anything while making music - Music Theory is mostly after the fact. Theory is taught, but novelties appear regardless - see Monteverdi and Artusi. Am 26.07.2018 um 19:11 schrieb

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread Ralf Mattes
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2018 20:44 CEST, Tristan von Neumann schrieb: > Musicians and Music Theorists are rarely one and the same person :) Sorry, but that's the biggest bulls**t I've ever heard! Tinctoris (choir master, composer and most likely a singer)? Gafurius (composer, maestro di

[LUTE] Re: tab program

2018-07-26 Thread Ralf Mattes
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juli 2018 21:04 CEST, wayne lute schrieb: I use a programmers editor like vim or emacs that doesn’t make the switch. Jay! Emacs rulez! ;-) Cheers, RalfD To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-26 Thread Jurgen Frenz
lute & kora wow - that is interesting and should sound great. Keep us posted! Jurgen -- “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 26 July 2018 6:20 PM, Martin Shepherd wrote: > Thanks to

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-26 Thread Alain Veylit
Jurgen, It's an old trick: make your URLs super-long so they are broken by a line break.  Hence the expression: broken links. Case in point, the Besard Bergamasque from the Thesaurus Harmonicus, also a very worthwhile piece:

[LUTE] Re: Luttes of Cullane and Venice?

2018-07-26 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Cullane may mean modern Koln/Cologne - centre for international trade at the time. If I recall aright, Mace speaks of Cullen cleft as a type of wood for lutes. MH __ From:

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread Ed Durbrow
Modern chord symbols appeared much later than you might think. I looked this up not long ago. I believe it was the 1920s or 30s and had to do with session playing. To do with films perhaps? On Jul 25, 2018, at 9:54 PM, Leonard Williams wrote: > As chordal music (as opposed to

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-26 Thread Ed Durbrow
I have made a version of the Gianoncelli for 7 course lute, if you are interested. On Jul 25, 2018, at 6:51 PM, spiffys84121 wrote: > The Gianoncelli Bergamesca from 1650 for archlute is superb. I played > it last month for O'dette's master class. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan

[LUTE] Re: chord names

2018-07-26 Thread Leonard Williams
I have often wondered if the rules of music, like many of those for Italian grammar, came after the fact, based on common usage that sounds good. Leonard -Original Message- From: Tristan von Neumann To: lutelist Net Sent: Thu, Jul 26, 2018 2:44 pm Subject:

[LUTE] Re: bergamasca

2018-07-26 Thread Jurgen Frenz
Very generous advice, thank you! I will go there and have a close look. Best Jurgen -- “There is a voice that doesn’t use words. Listen.” Jalāl ad-Dīn Muhammad Rumi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 26 July 2018 2:17 PM, Alain Veylit wrote: > Jurgen, > >

[LUTE] Chord names

2018-07-26 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
I am afraid the table of chords didn't come out right. Hope this is better. 1 = G major [Dedillo] 2 = C major [Puente] 7 = E major [Cruzadillo] P = A major [Patilla] + = D major [Cruzado] 3 = F major [Vacas] 4 = B flat major

[LUTE] Chord names - Amat

2018-07-26 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
I am afraid what you have said about this is incorrect. "Juan Carlos Amat's little book Guitarra Espanola y Vandola (?) was published already in 1596 but the earliest surviving edition is from 1627." The earliest surviving copy is dated 1626 - this copy is in the Newberry Library

[LUTE] Re: Luttes of Cullane and Venice?

2018-07-26 Thread Martin Shepherd
Hi Theo, "Cullane" is probably "Cologne" (Köln), as there are other references to lutes from there.  "Venice" Venice, a famously important centre for lutemaking. "Catlingis" (elsewhere "catlins") are strings used in the mid range and bass, "Manikins" (elsewhere "minikins") are treble

[LUTE] Chord names

2018-07-26 Thread mjlh...@cs.dartmouth.edu
I am afraid the table of chords didn't come out right. Hope this is better. 1 = G major [Dedillo] 2 = C major [Puente] 7 = E major [Cruzadillo] P = A major [Patilla] + = D major [Cruzado] 3 = F major [Vacas] 4 = B flat major

[LUTE] bergamasca

2018-07-26 Thread Martin Shepherd
Thanks to all who replied. I've now gone off in a slightly different direction with the John Johnson(?) setting of Conde claros from the Marsh lute book. Just in case you're wondering, my son Hugh is hoping to include some lute and kora duets in his final dissertation. Martin --- This