Dear Neil,
There is no reason at all why you shouldn't play lute/guitar duets.
You could have a lot of fun playing duets with a guitar friend. You
might have to consider questions of balance between the two
instruments, because the guitar might sound a little louder than the
lute.
The advantage
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Regards,
Stephan Olbertz
Am 13 Nov 2006 um 13:03 hat Taco Walstra geschrieben:
On Monday 13 November 2006 06:05, you wrote:
You might read Musik als klangrede by Nikolaus
The advantage of using a guitar is that you can play duets for lutes
of different sizes. If you want to play duets for equal lutes, you
will probably have to have a capo at the third fret of the guitar.
If, on the other hand, you want to play duets for lutes a tone
apart, you simply move the
Isn't that a tall order? Maybe if all one concentrates on is a G lute and
guitar (capoed up), then one could learn all the positions in, say, many
years. But do people really learn the fingerboards of, say, ren lute in G,
baroque lute in dm, archlute (in ??), etc???
Jim
On 11/13/06, Mathias
Isn't that a tall order? Maybe if all one concentrates on is a G lute and
guitar (capoed up), then one could learn all the positions in, say, many
years. But do people really learn the fingerboards of, say, ren lute in G,
baroque lute in dm, archlute (in ??), etc???
I know the fingerboards
On Nov 14, 2006, at 12:22 PM, Are Vidar Boye Hansen wrote:
I know the fingerboards of my renaissance lute in G, baroque lute in
d-minor, archlute in G and fender stratocaster in E. I honestly don't
understand why many lutensits find this so difficult.
Not to mention acoustic folk guitars in
Well, if that's the case, why use tablature? Really. Is there any other
reason?
On 11/14/06, Are Vidar Boye Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't that a tall order? Maybe if all one concentrates on is a G lute
and
guitar (capoed up), then one could learn all the positions in, say, many
For that very reason: so one could learn MANY fingerboards.
RT
From: Jim Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LUTE-LIST lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Well, if that's the case, why use tablature? Really. Is there any other
reason?
On 11/14/06, Are Vidar Boye Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Isn't that a
On Nov 14, 2006, at 1:04 PM, Jim Abraham wrote:
Well, if that's the case, why use tablature? Really. Is there any
other
reason?
Good question. One asnwer lies in the H word: historically.
Historically, tablature was the most efficient way to put polyphony
on a single staff.
Well, if that's the case, why use tablature? Really. Is there any other
reason?
I think Stewart McCoy claimed that tabulature is an excellent way of
notating polyphonic music for a plucked instrument.
Anyway, lutenists did play from score, just think of continuo playing.
I am certain that
I'm a novice, which explains why I don't understand Mr. McCoy's assertion.
Can you explain it?
On 11/14/06, Are Vidar Boye Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, if that's the case, why use tablature? Really. Is there any other
reason?
I think Stewart McCoy claimed that tabulature is an
I hope Stewart will explain it himself!
Are
I'm a novice, which explains why I don't understand Mr. McCoy's assertion.
Can you explain it?
On 11/14/06, Are Vidar Boye Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, if that's the case, why use tablature? Really. Is there any other
reason?
I think
Dear People,
i am new to this list and have a question: is there such thing as a d-minor
eleven-course lute that can be tuned (convincingly) to the renaissance tuning
(or the other way around!)? right now i am a renaissance and continuo player
and borrowing the instruments from other people.
Dear People,
i am new to this list and have a question: is there such thing as a
d-minor eleven-course lute that can be tuned (convincingly) to the
renaissance tuning (or the other way around!)? right now i am a
renaissance and continuo player and borrowing the instruments from other
Well, if that's the case, why use tablature? Really. Is there any
other reason?
Good question. One asnwer lies in the H word: historically.
Historically, tablature was the most efficient way to put polyphony
on a single staff.
I'm not against tablatures. Of course, I prefer playing
Mathias,
Would You Know My Name ( Tears in Heaven ) by Clapton on the chitarrone is
just awesome.
Awesome...anybody got that for 8 course Lute...i play that as part of my
bands acoustic set, to do it on lute would abso - lute - ly fell em ( scuse
pun )
Neil ( seems I started something here
At 12:22 PM 11/14/2006, Are Vidar Boye Hansen wrote:
I know the fingerboards of my renaissance lute in G, baroque lute in
d-minor, archlute in G and fender stratocaster in E. I honestly don't
understand why many lutensits find this so difficult.
mvh
Are Vidar Hansen
Hmmm. Of course I can't
Not entirely true. On an 11-course one could produce a six-course
tuning
(with 2 single strung courses--1st and 2nd) by changing the 1-F to G
string.
The only other changes required would be lowering 5-D to C, and 6-A to G.
The tension would be way too low, to both touch and ear...
RT
Wouldn't a small advantage for the tabulature be that a specific
position for obtaining a note can be made explicit?
The tone could be different according to the way it is acheived (e.g;
open strings or not), or am I completely mistaken, here?
It is late and I might be becoming a little
At our Dowland seminar several years ago, Pat O'Brian made that suggestion
about some of Dowland's lute songs, which specify fretted notes instead of the
adjacent open string. His take was that Dowland might have written it that way
because he wanted the darker sound of the fretted note, even
in days of old ... wasn't the majority of musical
knowledge passed from one to another in a show me how
you did that ... situation - where one person played
and another one copied? tabs or notation - either/or
- was simply for those unfortunates without the prime
benefit of someone better to play
This is exactly Baron's opinion on the matter.
RT
Wouldn't a small advantage for the tabulature be that a specific
position for obtaining a note can be made explicit?
The tone could be different according to the way it is acheived (e.g;
open strings or not), or am I completely mistaken,
The thing I really don't like about tablature is that it's hard to measure
intervals and in general to get a spatial sense of the music by looking at
it. I've often read that tab was necessary given the many different lutes in
different tunings that one might write for. But most lute tablature, at
Jim, this is an extremely complex question/problem, not least because there
was NO SUCH THING as a standard lute in G. Lutes were of MANY sizes and
pitches, and tabulature allows any piece to be played by any lute of any
size within its appropriate time-period, regardless of the key and its
Hello, lutelisters,
in this context (staff and/or tablature), I would like to share with you
a procedure that is helping me in overcome certain vices which have to
do with a build up of bad reflexes, ie, the relation between:
- the visual information tablature offers,
- and the finger postures
Well, if that's the ca
se, why use tablature? Really. Is there any other
reason?
Dear Jim,
Stewart's point, I think, was that intabulation showed a specific
arrangement that fit the specific tuning of the common lute. If there
was common practice that 99% of the players played, say, lutes
Thanks for the information. The lute world is indeed deliciously, um,
intricate? complicated? something good.
On 11/14/06, Sean Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, if that's the ca
se, why use tablature? Really. Is there any other
reason?
Dear Jim,
Stewart's point, I think, was
--- Sean Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It was easy to transcribe, both by hand and in
print. It allowed the
individual to transmit his own fingerings and
provided a diagram that
was easily absorbed by the brain at speed for those
weak of harmonic
education. I don't know which of these
Jim Abraham wrote:
The thing I really don't like about tablature is that it's hard to
measure
intervals and in general to get a spatial sense of the music by
looking at
it.
That just means you're note experienced enough with tablature. If you
were new to staff notation, you'd have the
Hi All,
My luthier is just about ready to ship my lute, from Brazil to the US, and
I'm trying to find out what the insurance and customs duties will be.
Anybody know how these things are calculated, and what typical costs are?
Say cost per $1000?
Jim
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On Nov 14, 2006, at 5:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Sean Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It was easy to transcribe, both by hand and in
print. It allowed the
individual to transmit his own fingerings and
provided a diagram that
was easily absorbed by the brain at speed for those
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