[LUTE] Re: My Lady Careys Dompe

[Alain Veylit]

   Hi all,

   A while ago I decided to dig into the possibility that dumps (doompes
   or thumpes...) might have a connection with a certain style of playing
   on the harp. This was my starting point and while I admit I did not
   really get anywhere specific, the journey itself proved somewhat
   enjoyable, with forays into Anglo-Irish 19th century politics and a
   discovery of some really weird instruments with exotic sounding name
   like the crwth and tiompan. This also started from a transcription of
   an absolutely remarkable piece in the Marsh lute book, Arthur's dump, a
   piece of considerable virtuosity with a remarkable rhythmic pattern at
   its core quite unlike any other piece for lute I think, including
   pieces titled "dumps". Nothing is known about the origins of the Marsh
   lute book and its acquisition by the archbishop and its current
   location in Dublin provides no proof of its origins. A lot of its duet
   contents seems to also be found in the Cambridge Dd-3-18 MS, many by
   John Johnson.

   Although I would not conclude anything overly precise or worth a $20
   bet on it, I now tend to think of the dump as the British equivalent of
   the brande or branle, i.e. a dance that could be both gay or sad, in
   duple or triple meter, but distinguished by a particular move of the
   body - for the branle, that was a sideways motion of the body, for the
   dump maybe a "thump" of the foot on the ground following a signature
   syncopation in the music. But honestly, we don't know that much about
   that genre and the evidence I could find is shaky and quite often
   politically motivated. Which made that little research quite enjoyable
   to me. Was the dump's  fall out of favor at roughly the same time as
   Elizabeth's edict against wandering harpists a mere coincidence? Could
   be. Or not.

   If you are interested in this topic, feel free to check my page on
   Arthur's dump at
   [1]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/collections/preview/2 and the
   details of my (non)findings at
   [2]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/files/collection/zip_file/2/Arth
   urTheory.html. I provide plenty of links for those who have time to
   spend on a long winter afternoon.

   Sadly perhaps, the only real evidence of musical interbreeding between
   lute and harp comes from Spain, with Mudarra's Fantasia que Contrahaze
   La Harpa en la Manera de Ludovico, also a technically very strongly
   typed piece.

   Alain

   On 02/23/2017 09:24 AM, G. C. wrote:

   Yes, I'm unfortunately most probably mistaken with that fast and
   unchecked remark, as my only source was:
   [1][3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh-xLdCy_-Q

 [4]http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/collections/preview/2uite u

 and we all know how trustworthy that media is. Silly of me. Checked
 McFeely and found a few unspesified dumps in Marsh but none
 specific. Sorry, for probably being mistaken by wrong attributions!
 G. On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Lex van Sante
 [5]<[2]lvansa...@gmail.com> wrote: @ G.C. I have tried to find it in
 Marsh a long time ago but to no avail. On which page can I find it?
 Lex > Op 22 feb. 2017, om 12:08 heeft Ron Andrico
 [6]<[3]praelu...@hotmail.com> het volgende geschreven: > > Sterling:
 > > The piece is available in tablature from the Lute Society in a >
 tablature supplement circa 2000. Contact Chris Goodwin, since I >
 believe he made the arrangement. > > RA >
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 > > From: [[7]4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
 [8]<[5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu> on behalf > of sterling price
 [9]<[6]spiffys84...@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Wednesday, February
 22, 2017 4:05 AM > To: Lute List > Subject: [LUTE] My Lady Careys
 Dompe > > Hi all-- > I am looking for My Lady Careys Dompe as played
 by Paul O'Dette on > the > Royal Lewters cd. Gathering from the
 liner notes I think it is > Paul's > arrangement of the harpsichord
 version. Any ideas? > Thanks-- > Sterling > -- > To get on or off
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[LUTE] west coast

[Ed Durbrow]

Any early music people in Nevada County, CA? I just arrived in Grass Valley and 
will be based here until the end of March. I may be taking a trip up the west 
coast within the next month and hope to set up some house concerts of Ren lute 
and original songs with guitar if anyone is interested in helping me arrange 
something.
Thanks,


Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch
https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow
http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/








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[LUTE] The ballad of Dovbush

[Roman Turovsky]

The ballad of Dovbush, the Ukrainian Robin Hood -

http://torban.org/audio/sadovska/dovbush.mp3 - sung by the great Mariana 
Sadovska.


Two renaissance lute versions, in c and d:

http://www.torban.org/lodomericae/audio/501.mp3
http://www.torban.org/lodomericae/images/501.pdf

http://www.torban.org/lodomericae/audio/500.mp3
http://www.torban.org/lodomericae/images/500.pdf

Enjoy!
Amities,
RT




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[LUTE] Re: Marsh flavoured Chi Passa

[Jim Dunn]

   Oh god are there? I had no idea! It's the one on page 251 I believe.
   All the best,
   Jim

   On 24 Feb 2017, 12:50 +, Matthew Daillie
   , wrote:

 Which one, there are about 10 versions of Chi Passa in the Marsh?
 Best
 Matthew
 On 24/02/2017 13:09, Jim Dunn wrote:

 Hello all,
 Does anybody know where I can get hold of tablature for the version
 of
 Chi Passa in the Marsh Lute Book? My internet searches are drawing a
 blank...
 Thanks in advance!
 Jim

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[LUTE] Re: Marsh flavoured Chi Passa

[Matthew Daillie]

Which one, there are about 10 versions of Chi Passa in the Marsh?

Best

Matthew

On 24/02/2017 13:09, Jim Dunn wrote:

Hello all,
Does anybody know where I can get hold of tablature for the version of
Chi Passa in the Marsh Lute Book? My internet searches are drawing a
blank...
Thanks in advance!
Jim





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[LUTE] Marsh flavoured Chi Passa

[Jim Dunn]

   Hello all,
   Does anybody know where I can get hold of tablature for the version of
   Chi Passa in the Marsh Lute Book? My internet searches are drawing a
   blank...
   Thanks in advance!
   Jim

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