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A great book! I really do like Kiplings books but only know them in german so I cannot help with quotes. Thomas Am Die, 2004-06-08 um 06.53 schrieb Jon Murphy: Yes, but in this country if you ask someone: Do you like Kipling?, you'll get an answer: I don't know, how does one kiple?. Hence the dictum. RT Was this from the Man Who Would Be King? His mistake was not knowing the country he was in. JWM -- Thomas Schall Niederhofheimer Weg 3 D-65843 Sulzbach 06196/74519 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.lautenist.de / www.tslaute.de/weiss --
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Yes, but in this country if you ask someone: Do you like Kipling?, you'll get an answer: I don't know, how does one kiple?. Hence the dictum. RT Was this from the Man Who Would Be King? His mistake was not knowing the country he was in. JWM
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which would be Wittgenstein ... Thomas Am Mit, 2004-06-02 um 13.23 schrieb Roman Turovsky: if, however, criticism of this behavior is based on an understanding that they (the coalition) should know better then i suggest you read rudyard kipling's white man's burden to experience again the pomposity and embarrassment of such a notion. Re Kipling: Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen. RT http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/Kipling.html __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv --
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Yes, but in this country if you ask someone: Do you like Kipling?, you'll get an answer: I don't know, how does one kiple?. Hence the dictum. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv which would be Wittgenstein ... Thomas if, however, criticism of this behavior is based on an understanding that they (the coalition) should know better then i suggest you read rudyard kipling's white man's burden to experience again the pomposity and embarrassment of such a notion. Re Kipling: Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen. RT http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/Kipling.html __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv
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if, however, criticism of this behavior is based on an understanding that they (the coalition) should know better then i suggest you read rudyard kipling's white man's burden to experience again the pomposity and embarrassment of such a notion. Re Kipling: Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen. RT http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/Kipling.html __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv
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Not really. Found myself in opposition to W. way too often, especially on music RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 07:21:17 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Moot (off Topic) Are you also a Wittgestein fan, Roman? I love his stuff, one of the best writers of German there has been. Cheers Tom --
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From my humble point of view, you know what's the problem of bringing subjects like all this to the forum? We (the members of this list) don't have the minimum necessary elements for a serious and productive debate about politics, nor a simple fair and productive exchange. In other words: Our perception of word's reality is totally different (our realities are totally different), as well as our values are. Apart from that, we don't even share the same categories, so we don't even have a common language to start with... Methodologically we're already failing. A very easy and quite obvious example: think about what the word freedom means for you, and I guarantee that will have little to do with the meaning I give to libertad. A very concrete example: HR watch is a foundation created ironically by a person (Mr. Soros) who, according to some values, has little respect for human rights (I could go on, but I don't think that's good). At the same time, it is for you a good source of information... It is not a matter of playing the autistic by avoiding any topic not directly linked with lute and music, but all this- music and lutes- is what we actually have in common. That's the place in which we can actually meet, share things, and learn from each other, no matter how different we are (even talking only about that we had difficult moments). What's the point then in finding out about how horrible, selfish, one sided, narrow minded or whatever we might turn resulting to each other? It would be like talking about sexual preferences in the forum. More than a member would be horrified if we all turned to be totally open about it. Don't you think? Personally, I can also delete the emails I'm not interested in, but I prefer to exchange my ideas about some things in some other places. Saludos, A
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Bill wrote: my server couldn't connect to the sweeping generalization site you mention. go there often, do you? Not necessary. These days I get free home delivery.
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Bill, I don't think your question about the photos vs. the actual incidents carries much weight. The world was not really stirred against the Holocaust until photos and newsreels were taken by Allied forces liberating the camps. It was known for years before that the Nazis were moving trainloads of Jews into those camps, but no one really grasped the horror of what was happening there. And I don't think anyone today would say that the actions committed in the camps were not atrocities. Images are powerful. The first court martial was a prosecutor's way of squeezing the first person to testify against the others without having that soldier look like a whistle-blower. Tim
