Dear Ray
Thanks for the clarification. I had thought from your initial comment that
the missing lute parts for the Dowland lute songs etc. might be elsewhere on
the site, but clearly they're not.
The Lute part that you cite for Go from my Window bears little resemblance
to Morley's original.
, especially if you like playing around in costume, but best not
to expect too much in terms of musical authenticity.
Guy
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From: Peter Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 1:38 AM
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Mille Ducas
Dear Ray
Thanks
Anthony
Susato was born in Cologne
I read he was born is Soest (The Netherlands), hence his name.
We were both right, but I was wrong in assuming Soest in The Netherlands,
there is another Soest. This is what the New Grove has to say:
Susato, Tylman [Tielman]
(b c1510-1515, Soest, nr
Thanks Wayne for your help which seems to have clarified the issue. I
am sure this article would be of interest to Stephen K. also.
David, there seems to have been much scholarly discussion on the
issue of his birth place, so there is good reason for there to have
been doubts.
Your
Hello Anthony,
My rather intemperate comments weren't specifically about Susato, which I
would imagine doesn't have a lute part anyway, but about the way in which
the lute part has been simply left out from the many pieces which *do* have
one - Dowland songs, Lachrimae etc - which I find a huge
Hello Martin
You are obviously correct. I did not look at any other pieces except
the Susato which I chanced upon with a Google search.
I sent the actual PDF piece to Stephen, but could not do the same for
the whole list, so I just sent the link to the page itself.
I am glad that you were
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008, Anthony Hind [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I wasn't sure there was a lute part in the original, although there
are recordings in which lutes appear, this is not always the case.
Susato, Tielman (c.1500-c.1561): Dances from Danserye (1551),Pavane,
Gaillarde, et Ronde
On Apr 19, 2008, at 2:02 AM, Peter Martin wrote:
I don't know who the SCA are,
There's your problem. Had you known you were dealing with the
Society for Creative Anachronism, you'd have known pretty much what
you needed to know.
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Susato, Tielman (c.1500-c.1561): Dances from Danserye (1551),Pavane,
Gaillarde, et Ronde Mille ducas
Grey-bearded windband players are highly familiar with the venerable
Schott edition in two small booklets of this work with small print and
other faults,
Alamire has very affordable facsimiles
Stephen
It is a quabtity of money as shown here, one thousand ducats.
http://books.google.fr/books?id=dwkMYAAJpg=PA144dq=mille+ducas
but perhaps you are not asking this but for the musical origin.
ducat |=CB=88d=C9'k=C9't|
noun
1 a gold coin formerly current in most European
In fact there is a round, mille ducas dans vostre bourse, a
thousand ducats in your purse.
Susato, Tielman (c.1500-c.1561): Dances from Danserye (1551),Pavane,
Gaillarde, et Ronde Mille ducas
or Tielman SUSATO (1500-1564)
La Bataille; Suite deDanses Mille Ducas; Basses Dances
One of
Peter
Sorry for giving the link, then. It was the only one I found for
the music, and I assumed that it would be possible to transcribe for
lute.
I wasn't sure there was a lute part in the original, although there
are recordings in which lutes appear, this is not always the case.
Le 19 avr. 08 =E0 00:50, LGS-Europe a ecrit :
Susato was born in Cologne
I read he was born is Soest (The Netherlands), hence his name.
David you may well be correct, but I saw this.
JSTOR: New Documents on the Life of Tielman Susato, Sixteenth ...
http://www.jstor.org/pss/3687153
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