Thank you David,
When you say you use thick frets, what rough sizes are you talking about? And are they graduated? Also, do you use double fret loops, as seems to have been the general historic practice (discussion was had earlier about this - in the archives). This very significantly extends the life of frets, as well as following early practice, since one loop (that closest to the body) takes much of the hard wear whilst the other acts as the cut-off point. MH --- On Fri, 20/3/09, David Tayler <vidan...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: From: David Tayler <vidan...@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [LUTE] Re: String depression To: "lute-cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: Friday, 20 March, 2009, 9:12 AM They work better for me. The thin ones wear out faster if you do a lot of tuning. I wear out my second fret very quckly. Also, you have to get a good grip on the string for forward rolls. I can't do that with a thin fret. For me it is a touch issue mainly, I can slide on any fret, but can't do some of the other tricks, and I prefer a medium thickness fret for second fret pullups, which is mainly what I use. dt > Indeed. > > To return to the principal matter (wether low frets and low string > depression to fingerboard are advantageous): depressing the string from > just touching the fret top to 'bottoming out' on the fingerboard > results in a miniscule increase in string length (and hence pitch) - > for example a mere 0.000125% at mid point, which I am sceptical can be > detected by the human ear. However pulling to the side ('bending') can > be large enough to be detected. > > In short, higher frets are not a significant advantage in this > instance. The advantage of low graduated frets is that they allow for > the necessary clearance to avoid 'buzzing' on the higher frets whilst > minimizing the distance required to depress strings to the fingerboard > when playing. > > MH > --- On Thu, 19/3/09, William Brohinsky <[1]tiorbin...@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: William Brohinsky <[2]tiorbin...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: String depression > To: "Martyn Hodgson" <[3]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> > Cc: "lute mailing list list" <[4]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu>, "Lex van > Sante" <[5]lvansa...@wanadoo.nl> > Date: Thursday, 19 March, 2009, 2:35 PM > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Martyn Hodgson > <[1][6]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > > > We seem to be at cross purposes: what I call 'pulling it (the string) > > sideways' is what you, I think, call 'bending'. > > MH > It is certain that what you are calling pulling is what I am calling > bending. This was the reason for my remarks: > Said Lex, "This can all be exaggerated by pulling or pushing the > string in the direction of the bridge or the nut." > You said, " Perhaps you are, in practice, actually pulling it sideways > which is the usual way of raising the pitch..." > So I am calling bending what you were calling "pulling it sideways" , > and I am saying that this is not what Lex was saying, which was > "pulling or pushing ... in the direction of the bridge or nut." > This is not at cross purposes, this is an answer to your "perhaps." > The practice of pushing and pulling strings towards the bridge or nut, > (i.e., axially) is not pulling sideways, and need not have a sideways > component to affect significant pitch change. > Ray > > -- > >References > > 1. [7]http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co. uk > > >To get on or off this list see list information at >[8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tiorbin...@gmail.com 2. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tiorbin...@gmail.com 3. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk 4. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=l...@cs.dartmouth.edu 5. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lvansa...@wanadoo.nl 6. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk 7. http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html