Guitar strings on a lute

2003-12-02 Thread RichardTomBeck
Thanks all for the most useful tips. I had feared as much, that guitar strings wouldn't do the trick. Being someone who's got 10 left thumbs when it comes to practical matters, I hate anything fiddly like putting on new strings, and had just hoped there might be a way of getting the strings to

Re: Guitar strings on a lute

2003-12-01 Thread Jon Murphy
Tony has it down cold, a string is a string is a string. But guitar strings are packaged according to the course (pitch) and are designed for a particular tension (the guitar wants a higher N than the lute, only for the sound) at the standard length of a guitar. If you have a guitar of a different

Re: Guitar strings on a lute.

2003-12-01 Thread Herbert Ward
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, James A Stimson wrote: Proper diameters and more limp are two sides of the same coin. Guitars ... This seems utterly obvious. Am I missing something here? Maybe some of the smart guys on the list can help us out here. Of course thicker strings are stiffer. In fact (for

Re: Guitar strings on a lute.

2003-12-01 Thread Edward Martin
Pergaps it may be generally true that a thicker string is stiffer, this is not in each instance. For example, with some different ways of twisting gut, it is possible to make a thicker string that is more flexible than its thinner counterpart. This is an important factor, as not all gut

Re: Guitar strings on a lute.

2003-11-30 Thread Stewart McCoy
, November 29, 2003 7:50 AM Subject: Re: Guitar strings on a lute. I sit corrected Stewart, but how did you count them? I guess I am reluctant to do my pontifications without a caveat saying that I don't know the lute. My lady says ask Murphy the time and he'll tell you how to build a watch. I am

Guitar strings on a lute

2003-11-30 Thread RichardTomBeck
Sorry to but in, but I've just seen this message, though being new to the circle missed the start of the conversation. Is it in fact possible to use guitar strings on a lute, at least as far as the higher strings are concerned (the upper G-string, the two D-strings)? I've wondered about

Re: Guitar strings on a lute

2003-11-30 Thread Tony Chalkley
Mmm... I don't think that such things as guitar strings and lute strings exist as real entities, but only as marketing packages. Strings are made of a certain material in different diameters and in different qualities. There is not only quite a lot of opinion as to what is correct, but quite

Re: Guitar strings on a lute

2003-11-30 Thread Howard Posner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it in fact possible to use guitar strings on a lute, at least as far as the higher strings are concerned (the upper G-string, the two D-strings)? These are the ones that definitely wouldn't work, unless your lute is made out of concrete

Re: Guitar strings on a lute.

2003-11-29 Thread Jon Murphy
I sit corrected Stewart, but how did you count them? I guess I am reluctant to do my pontifications without a caveat saying that I don't know the lute. My lady says ask Murphy the time and he'll tell you how to build a watch. I am an inveterate analyst, even on topics I don't know. Best, Jon

Re: Guitar strings on a lute.

2003-11-28 Thread Jon Murphy
G'day Jim, When local luthier Mel Wong retopped and renecked my old german lutar we kept the same string length: ~69-70cm and it tunes very nicely to E. By working w/ a lighter top but keeping the same string length, for some reason the Wadsworth string calculator suggests the same pitch.

Re: Guitar strings on a lute.

2003-11-28 Thread Stewart McCoy
: Guitar strings on a lute. Hope someone may gain from this, your newbie, Best, Jon

Guitar strings on a lute.

2003-11-26 Thread Herbert Ward
Why can't one use guitar strings on a lute? Is it merely that they are not available in the proper diameters? Or do lutes need strings which are, say, more limp?

Re: Guitar strings on a lute.

2003-11-26 Thread lutesmith
Dear Herbert: Proper diameters and more limp are two sides of the same coin. Guitars are strung at about 5 kilos of string tension, lutes closer to 3 kilos. Also, tenor lutes are tuned in G, guitars in E, although their string lengths are similar. G'day Jim, When local luthier Mel Wong

Re: Guitar strings on a lute.

2003-11-26 Thread Jon Murphy
: Guitar strings on a lute. Dear Herbert: Proper diameters and more limp are two sides of the same coin. Guitars are strung at about 5 kilos of string tension, lutes closer to 3 kilos. Also, tenor lutes are tuned in G, guitars in E, although their string lengths are similar. The result