Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-17 Thread Arto Wikla
On Tuesday 14 December 2004 17:28, Roman Turovsky wrote: Hålbus Totte Mattson does pagan scandinavian folk-rock on a 13-course baroque lute, but I wouldn't think it advisable to draw a conclusion of a Lappish lutenism from this. There seems to be an old daguerrotype that propably represents

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
Arto, I am honored by the effort and energy you have put into your research. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv Hållbus Totte Mattson does pagan scandinavian folk-rock on a 13-course baroque lute, but I wouldn't think it advisable to draw a conclusion of a Lappish

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-17 Thread Arto Wikla
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004, Roman Turovsky wrote: Arto, I am honored by the effort and energy you have put into your research. RT __ lappish lutenist or something like that, see http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/sautsekki.jpg There is more enlightment on the aforementioned

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-17 Thread Roman Turovsky
Arto, I am honored by the effort and energy you have put into your research. RT __ lappish lutenist or something like that, see http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/mus/sautsekki.jpg There is more enlightment on the aforementioned daguerrotype: In the middle of the 19th century

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-16 Thread Jon Murphy
Subject: Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe i found this thought brilliant: i read recently that the process of history really got underway when mirrors became affordable to everyone. until

Re: Vihuela,charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related,maybe

2004-12-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Alain, I have listened to the Kaky Kings CDs, that I found very interesting; I found her technique very similar to Michael Hedges play (Aerial boundaries) Paolo Declich You all got it all wrong: The difference between a vihuela and a charango is the same as that between a piano and

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-15 Thread bill kilpatrick
and so ... with the icy blast of rejection resounding in his neatly combed, brand new casa armonica, the plucky little vihuela de mano retraced his steps back to the nina, pinta and santa maria. 'vihuelita' ... the common little chordophone mused as he scampered up the gangway and into the arms

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-15 Thread rosinfiorini
i found this thought brilliant: i read recently that the process of history really got underway when mirrors became affordable to everyone. until then it was impossible - literally - to properly see one'self as anything distinctly different. By chance I red recently in this book (in PC

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-14 Thread Antonio Corona
--- bill kilpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you say potato - i say potato ... let's call the whole thing off. regards - bill Dear Bill, I shall be pleased to oblige. Best regards, Antonio

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-14 Thread Alain Veylit
You all got it all wrong: The difference between a vihuela and a charango is the same as that between a piano and an organ transplant. What beats me is why this thread is going on, while we could be talking about the Cuban lute - as heard on the Buena Vista Club famous CD - which at least as

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-14 Thread Howard Posner
bill kilpatrick wrote: any of the variations listed in your preceding letter (tunings, backing material, no. of courses, etc.) would naturally be of intense interest to him - no more than any other variation he might have encountered in his experience - but of secondary importance to its

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-13 Thread bill kilpatrick
dear antonio - thank you very much for your considerate and informative reply. what's needed here is a little imagination and i don't think historians are willing to inch themselves that far out on to the plank. we have a shipwrecked sailor with some carpentry skills who makes a stringed

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-13 Thread Jon Murphy
Bill, I commend you on your manners, and I'll not quarrel with Antonio's history of the names and the language of the instruments of South America. But as an outside source I'll just say bullshit. Parallel development of anything is both possible and likely, and particularly of musical

Re: Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-13 Thread bill kilpatrick
dear antonio - you may grow weary of me banging on about this but your knowledge on the subject is very interesting to me. the music played on the charango, its function in the music and the variation of technique and material used in its construction are as different and individual as the

Vihuela, charango and armadillos. Long post . Olim Renaissance america - a little more lute related, maybe

2004-12-12 Thread Antonio Corona
Dear Bill, How right you are. In the remote case that the Historias de la Conquista del Mayab proved to be genuine, I would require more evidence than what this text alone tells to consider that there might be a relationship between the vihuela and the charango. There are certain statements in