[LUTE] Re: Music stands

2018-10-20 Thread David Van Edwards

Dear Martin,

Ah yes, Jakob Lindberg has a very clever, light but complex, stand 
made of [I think] foam boards covered with a black cloth which takes 
quite a bit of setting up. He was giving a recital here in a small 
medieval room in Norwich and at the last minute, just as Jakob was 
advancing lute in hand, an elderly gentleman turned up, struggled 
awkwardly past the front row of feet and knocked the whole caboodle 
over. Music, cloth, boards everywhere.


David


At 08:13 +0200 20/10/18, Martin Shepherd wrote:
Thanks for this Stewart.  But I've now remembered the really 
importan thing about all this - not to kick the stand while 
playing




--
The Smokehouse,
6 Whitwell Road,
Norwich,  NR1 4HB  
England.


Telephone: + 44 (0)1603 629899
Website: http://www.vanedwards.co.uk



To get on or off this list see list information at
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html


[LUTE] Re: Music stands

2018-10-20 Thread Matthew Daillie
Hi Martin,
There are music stands that that really solves this problem by having a 
footprint in the form of an 'L' with its vertical support to the left so that 
you are never in danger of kicking it and you can move your feet (and even 
cross your legs!) at will. I have one made by RATstands. Its tray is sturdy but 
light and acoustically neutral. The only issues are price (I was lucky to find 
one on sale) and the fact that it is not foldaway.
Best,
Matthew

> On Oct 20, 2018, at 8:13, Martin Shepherd  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this Stewart.  But I've now remembered the really importan thing 
> about all this - not to kick the stand while playing



To get on or off this list see list information at
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html


[LUTE] Re: Music stands

2018-10-20 Thread Martyn Hodgson
   Martin,
   For concerts I employ a stiff folder to which I've added an extra
   fold-out leaf  - thus making it suitable for a three page spread where
   necessary.  It has the added advantage of being easily transportable
   and thus quickly setting up (and taking down) with eveything in the
   right order ..
   regards,
   Martyn
 __

   From: Martin Shepherd 
   To: Lute List 
   Sent: Saturday, 20 October 2018, 7:16
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: Music stands
   Thanks for this Stewart.  But I've now remembered the really importan
   thing about all this - not to kick the stand while playing
   On 20/10/2018 02:17, Stewart McCoy wrote:
   > Martin,
   >
   > There I was, waiting in the vestry of a church before a concert,
   > wondering how on earth I could cope with a piece of music four pages
   > long. Turning pages was not an option. I had to be able to see all
   > four pages without page-turns. Unfortunately the fold-out arms of my
   > old music stand would no longer stick out sideways to support the
   > outer pages. The joints had become loose, so the arms just flopped
   > down, as if struck by brewer's droop. What could I do to solve the
   > problem, with only a few minutes before the concert began? I looked
   > around in despair, but there was only the cupboard where the vicar's
   > vestments were hanging. What could I find there to help me? Ah! Coat
   > hangers! Just the job! They were ideal, made of thin, bendy wire. I
   > borrowed two, and hooked them over the top of my folder, so that they
   > were concealed from the audience, apart from bits of wire sticking
   out
   > sideways from the folder, offering just enough support for the first
   > and fourth pages. It worked a treat, and the concert was a resounding
   > success.
   >
   > Best wishes,
   >
   > Stewart.
   >
   > -Original Message- From: Ron Andrico
   > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 11:06 PM
   > To: Martin Shepherd ; Lute List
   > Subject: [LUTE] Re: music stands
   >
   >   Martin, for those longer multi-page pieces on a folding stand, I
   like
   >   to use a rigid piece of black foam-core board, cut to whatever
   length
   >   you like.  Eminently functional and looks elegant from a few feet
   away.
   >
   >   RA
   > __
   >
   >   From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu <[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   on behalf
   >   of Martin Shepherd <[3]mar...@luteshop.co.uk>
   >   Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 3:47 PM
   >   To: Lute List
   >   Subject: [LUTE] music stands
   >
   >   Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't
   >   mean
   >   the very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one. I
   ask
   >   because it seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and
   >   unstable.  I have one (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches
   to
   >   the
   >   rest with just one rivet, so it just wobbles.
   >   I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces,
   too.
   >   Thanks for any advice,
   >   M
   >   ---
   >   This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus
   software.
   >   [1][4]https://www.avast.com/antivirus
   >   To get on or off this list see list information at
   >   [2][5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   >
   >   --
   >
   > References
   >
   >   1. [6]https://www.avast.com/antivirus
   >   2. [7]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   >

   Virus-free. [8]www.avast.com

   --

References

   Visible links
   1. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   2. mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   3. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk
   4. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
   5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   6. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
   7. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   8. 
https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail

   Hidden links:
  10. 
https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail
  11. 
file://localhost/net/ifs-users/lute-arc/L21752-2964TMP.html#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2



[LUTE] Re: Music stands

2018-10-20 Thread Martin Shepherd
Thanks for this Stewart.  But I've now remembered the really importan 
thing about all this - not to kick the stand while playing


On 20/10/2018 02:17, Stewart McCoy wrote:

Martin,

There I was, waiting in the vestry of a church before a concert, 
wondering how on earth I could cope with a piece of music four pages 
long. Turning pages was not an option. I had to be able to see all 
four pages without page-turns. Unfortunately the fold-out arms of my 
old music stand would no longer stick out sideways to support the 
outer pages. The joints had become loose, so the arms just flopped 
down, as if struck by brewer's droop. What could I do to solve the 
problem, with only a few minutes before the concert began? I looked 
around in despair, but there was only the cupboard where the vicar's 
vestments were hanging. What could I find there to help me? Ah! Coat 
hangers! Just the job! They were ideal, made of thin, bendy wire. I 
borrowed two, and hooked them over the top of my folder, so that they 
were concealed from the audience, apart from bits of wire sticking out 
sideways from the folder, offering just enough support for the first 
and fourth pages. It worked a treat, and the concert was a resounding 
success.


Best wishes,

Stewart.

-Original Message- From: Ron Andrico
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 11:06 PM
To: Martin Shepherd ; Lute List
Subject: [LUTE] Re: music stands

  Martin, for those longer multi-page pieces on a folding stand, I like
  to use a rigid piece of black foam-core board, cut to whatever length
  you like.  Eminently functional and looks elegant from a few feet away.

  RA
__

  From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  on behalf
  of Martin Shepherd 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 3:47 PM
  To: Lute List
  Subject: [LUTE] music stands

  Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't
  mean
  the very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one. I ask
  because it seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and
  unstable.  I have one (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches to
  the
  rest with just one rivet, so it just wobbles.
  I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces, too.
  Thanks for any advice,
  M
  ---
  This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
  [1]https://www.avast.com/antivirus
  To get on or off this list see list information at
  [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

  --

References

  1. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
  2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html






[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-19 Thread Ed Durbrow
>> Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't mean the 
>> very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.  I ask because it 
>> seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and unstable.  I have 
>> one (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches to the rest with just one 
>> rivet, so it just wobbles.
>> 
>> I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces, too.

I can’t answer your question. I don’t know any brands, but I wanted to mention 
that I have a music stand that has no base, just a short adjustable arm. It is 
designed to work on a table top. I have to say I really like it because it 
folds up into something that is very small and can easily fit in my backpack. 
It was about $10.

Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch
https://soundcloud.com/ed-durbrow
http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/








--

To get on or off this list see list information at
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html


[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-17 Thread Christopher Stetson
   Hi, all.
   Personally, I use a Tozan-ryu style shakuhachi music stand (from one of
   my other musical lives):
   [1]https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kikutani-music-stand-JMS-6-Extravaganza-sha
   kuhachi-height-adjustment-620-JAPAN/163283784590?epid=917472217=it
   em260478d38e:g:3SEAAOSw6jNbrlYs:rk:1:pf:0
   It can expand to take up to five (USA) standard-size, 8.5" by 11" paper
   sheets, but it's not so sturdy for books.
   Best to all, and keep playing.
   Chris.

   On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 3:12 PM guy_and_liz Smith
   <[2]guy_and_...@msn.com> wrote:

 If you have a Manhasset (which is what I use at home), you can use
 standouts to make the desk much larger.
 [3]https://www.amazon.com/MANHASSET-Music-Stand-Out-Shelf-Extenders/
 dp/B00H5XQH20/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments=UTF8=153980324
 8=1-1=standouts
 Guy
 -Original Message-
 From: [4]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
 [mailto:[5]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Dan Winheld
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:24 AM
 To: Martin Shepherd; Lute List
     Subject: [LUTE] Re: music stands
 My current stand (nominally portable/collapsible) but is my stay at
 home
 study/practice center:
 [6]https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2
 Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FSuperstand-Extra-Wide-Fold-Out-Music-Stand-sol
 oist-conductor-%2F253916282119%3Fhash%3Ditem3b1e96fd07data=02%7
 C01%7C%7C915db949b4114794bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435
 %7C1%7C0%7C636753974885734064sdata=ZPehm3pEbHAhOr%2Bc5z
 YqKxe1E7pU5NFy%2BPgqwx7Ffhg%3Dreserved=0
 I really love this one, but there are other wider desk stands on
 this
 particular ebay page:
 [7]https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2
 Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FPeak-Music-SMS-35-Conductor-Music-Stand-WIDE-w
 ith-Solid-Desk-and-Tote-Bag-New-%2F332306917965%3Fhash%3Ditem4d5f092
 a4ddata=02%7C01%7C%7C915db949b4114794bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e7
 fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753974885734064sdata=H9x
 Gq7vGTZ0ZmPrA3799ekjRtCl%2Fd7l5h4bZ1WBWKLU%3Dreserved=0
 -I may also go for this last one as a back-up (& more portable),
 26.75"
 wide is good for 3 pages, and less massive than my other one if I
 ever
 get another gig in m life;
 Dan
 On 10/17/2018 10:45 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote:
 >   Forwarded Message ----
     >  Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: music stands
 > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:39:20 +0200
 > From: Martin Shepherd [1]<[8]mar...@luteshop.co.uk>
 >   To: Jean-Marie Poirier [2]<[9]jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr>
 > Thanks to all who replied!   OK I'll try K & M.
 >
 > M
 >
 > On 17/10/2018 19:14, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
 >> K & M - German made -are the best !
 >>
 >> Jean-Marie
 >>
 >> --
 >>
 >>> Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?   I
 don't mean
 >>> the very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.
 I ask
 >>> because it seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy
 and
 >>> unstable.   I have one (I think it's Stagg) where the top
 attaches to the
 >>> rest with just one rivet, so it just wobbles.
 >>>
 >>> I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces,
 too.
 >>>
 >>> Thanks for any advice,
 >>>
 >>> M
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> ---
 >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus
 software.
 >>>
 [3][10]https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%
 2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fantivirusdata=02%7C01%7C%7C915db949b411479
 4bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63675
 3974885734064sdata=z3AGhVyuxTj0hN3L9nlSGzoX0o9KpqbvUKW0h7Cjuq0%
 3Dreserved=0
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> To get on or off this list see list information at
 >>>
 [4][11]https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%
 2Fwww.cs.dartmouth.edu%2F~wbc%2Flute-admin%2Findex.htmldata=02%
 7C01%7C%7C915db949b4114794bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaa
 a%7C1%7C0%7C636753974885734064sdata=i2CW9AWAYvfsRdD4wzd
 BxRxDOixV7LbMyikCK3xzB8Q%3Dreserved=0
 >
 >  Virus-free.
 [5][12]https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.avast
 .comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C915db949b4114794bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e
 7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753974885734064sdata=Pm
 08CZGRaQa2FtjaB%2FLdIcmfreEmJnSMYIu72L9Czt0%3Dreserved=0
 >

[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-17 Thread guy_and_liz Smith
If you have a Manhasset (which is what I use at home), you can use standouts to 
make the desk much larger.

https://www.amazon.com/MANHASSET-Music-Stand-Out-Shelf-Extenders/dp/B00H5XQH20/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments=UTF8=1539803248=1-1=standouts

Guy

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Dan Winheld
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:24 AM
To: Martin Shepherd; Lute List
Subject: [LUTE] Re: music stands

My current stand (nominally portable/collapsible) but is my stay at home 
study/practice center:

https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FSuperstand-Extra-Wide-Fold-Out-Music-Stand-soloist-conductor-%2F253916282119%3Fhash%3Ditem3b1e96fd07data=02%7C01%7C%7C915db949b4114794bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753974885734064sdata=ZPehm3pEbHAhOr%2Bc5zYqKxe1E7pU5NFy%2BPgqwx7Ffhg%3Dreserved=0

I really love this one, but there are other wider desk stands on this 
particular ebay page:

https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FPeak-Music-SMS-35-Conductor-Music-Stand-WIDE-with-Solid-Desk-and-Tote-Bag-New-%2F332306917965%3Fhash%3Ditem4d5f092a4ddata=02%7C01%7C%7C915db949b4114794bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753974885734064sdata=H9xGq7vGTZ0ZmPrA3799ekjRtCl%2Fd7l5h4bZ1WBWKLU%3Dreserved=0

-I may also go for this last one as a back-up (& more portable), 26.75" 
wide is good for 3 pages, and less massive than my other one if I ever 
get another gig in m life;

Dan

On 10/17/2018 10:45 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote:
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: music stands
>Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:39:20 +0200
>From: Martin Shepherd [1]
>  To: Jean-Marie Poirier [2]
> Thanks to all who replied!  OK I'll try K & M.
>
> M
>
> On 17/10/2018 19:14, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
>> K & M - German made -are the best !
>>
>> Jean-Marie
>>
>> --
>>
>>> Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't mean
>>> the very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.  I ask
>>> because it seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and
>>> unstable.  I have one (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches to the
>>> rest with just one rivet, so it just wobbles.
>>>
>>> I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces, too.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any advice,
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>>> [3]https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fantivirusdata=02%7C01%7C%7C915db949b4114794bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753974885734064sdata=z3AGhVyuxTj0hN3L9nlSGzoX0o9KpqbvUKW0h7Cjuq0%3Dreserved=0
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>>> [4]https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.cs.dartmouth.edu%2F~wbc%2Flute-admin%2Findex.htmldata=02%7C01%7C%7C915db949b4114794bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753974885734064sdata=i2CW9AWAYvfsRdD4wzdBxRxDOixV7LbMyikCK3xzB8Q%3Dreserved=0
>
> Virus-free. 
> [5]https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.avast.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C915db949b4114794bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753974885734064sdata=Pm08CZGRaQa2FtjaB%2FLdIcmfreEmJnSMYIu72L9Czt0%3Dreserved=0
>
> --
>
> References
>
> Visible links
> 1. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk
> 2. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
> 3. 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fantivirusdata=02%7C01%7C%7C915db949b4114794bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753974885734064sdata=z3AGhVyuxTj0hN3L9nlSGzoX0o9KpqbvUKW0h7Cjuq0%3Dreserved=0
> 4. 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.cs.dartmouth.edu%2F~wbc%2Flute-admin%2Findex.htmldata=02%7C01%7C%7C915db949b4114794bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753974885734064sdata=i2CW9AWAYvfsRdD4wzdBxRxDOixV7LbMyikCK3xzB8Q%3Dreserved=0
> 5. 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fsig-email%3Futm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dlink%26utm_campaign%3Dsig-email%26utm_content%3Demailclientdata=02%7C01%7C%7C915db949b4114794bfbe08d6345dd209%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753974885734064sdata=skZUAeBsy7ZiMjRf5BFC4JwNfXIGizM1TGZgzr%2FPRI8%3Dreserved=0
>
> Hidden links:
> 7. 
>

[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-17 Thread Dan Winheld
My current stand (nominally portable/collapsible) but is my stay at home 
study/practice center:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Superstand-Extra-Wide-Fold-Out-Music-Stand-soloist-conductor-/253916282119?hash=item3b1e96fd07

I really love this one, but there are other wider desk stands on this 
particular ebay page:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Peak-Music-SMS-35-Conductor-Music-Stand-WIDE-with-Solid-Desk-and-Tote-Bag-New-/332306917965?hash=item4d5f092a4d

-I may also go for this last one as a back-up (& more portable), 26.75" 
wide is good for 3 pages, and less massive than my other one if I ever 
get another gig in m life;


Dan

On 10/17/2018 10:45 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote:

 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: music stands
   Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:39:20 +0200
   From: Martin Shepherd [1]
 To: Jean-Marie Poirier [2]
Thanks to all who replied!  OK I'll try K & M.

M

On 17/10/2018 19:14, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:

K & M - German made -are the best !

Jean-Marie

--


Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't mean
the very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.  I ask
because it seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and
unstable.  I have one (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches to the
rest with just one rivet, so it just wobbles.

I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces, too.

Thanks for any advice,

M



---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
[3]https://www.avast.com/antivirus



To get on or off this list see list information at
[4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html


Virus-free. [5]www.avast.com

--

References

Visible links
1. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk
2. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
3. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
5. 
https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient

Hidden links:
7. 
https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient
8. 
file://localhost/net/ifs-users/lute-arc/L12633-5617TMP.html#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2







[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-17 Thread Martin Shepherd
    Forwarded Message 
   Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: music stands
  Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 19:39:20 +0200
  From: Martin Shepherd [1]
To: Jean-Marie Poirier [2]
Thanks to all who replied!  OK I'll try K & M.

M

On 17/10/2018 19:14, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
> K & M - German made -are the best !
>
> Jean-Marie
>
> --
>
>> Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't mean
>> the very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.  I ask
>> because it seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and
>> unstable.  I have one (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches to the
>> rest with just one rivet, so it just wobbles.
>>
>> I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces, too.
>>
>> Thanks for any advice,
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>>
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>> [3]https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>>
>>
>>
>> To get on or off this list see list information at
>> [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
>


   Virus-free. [5]www.avast.com

   --

References

   Visible links
   1. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk
   2. mailto:jmpoiri...@wanadoo.fr
   3. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
   4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   5. 
https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient

   Hidden links:
   7. 
https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient
   8. 
file://localhost/net/ifs-users/lute-arc/L12633-5617TMP.html#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2



[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-17 Thread Braig, Eugene
I routinely use mine to stretch out four visible pages at a time, but that does 
require a minor feat of balance given the narrowly linear extensions.  Clipping 
to those extensions as possible/necessary helps, especially in outdoor and 
potentially windy conditions.

Best,
Eugene


-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  On Behalf Of 
guy_and_liz Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:03 PM
To: Braig, Eugene ; lute mailing list list 

Subject: [LUTE] Re: music stands

I've been using a K regularly for years for both early and modern music (jazz 
and band). It's light and compact and works very well but does have some 
limitations. In particular, it's a bit tippy in windy conditions (I play 
outdoor band concerts at times) or when you put anything very heavy on it (like 
a large gig book). It also on the narrow side for pieces that run more than two 
pages.  I'm thinking of the Manhasset portable stand for those occasions where 
the K isn't going to work so well. It's heavier and more cumbersome to tote 
around, but also more stable with a wider desk.

Guy

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Braig, Eugene
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:01 AM
To: lute mailing list list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: music stands

I like my own K

Best,
Eugene


-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  On Behalf Of Lex 
van Sante
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:56 AM
To: Martin Shepherd ; lute mailing list list 

Subject: [LUTE] Re: music stands

Hi Martin, I think the best ones are made by K An alternative is RGB. Both 
are made in Germany or at least made to German standards. They will cost from 
25 to 35 euro depending on where you buy them. 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 17 okt. 2018 om 17:47 heeft Martin Shepherd  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't mean the 
> very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.  I ask because it 
> seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and unstable.  I have one 
> (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches to the rest with just one rivet, 
> so it just wobbles.
> 
> I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces, too.
> 
> Thanks for any advice,
> 
> M
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fantivirusdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca19b41e6c3a74378e99708d6344a0849%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753891117503802sdata=ae%2BZdSlpEYHMBX%2BeQayva9BS9I6UiPPdQvs8zJLUTXo%3Dreserved=0
> 
> 
> 
> To get on or off this list see list information at 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.cs.dartmouth.edu%2F~wbc%2Flute-admin%2Findex.htmldata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca19b41e6c3a74378e99708d6344a0849%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753891117503802sdata=yx1fbo8m7uusvvMqTBZ8fgZTWx3jjbWAHb7IpafUFgY%3Dreserved=0










[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-17 Thread Leonard Williams
   Addendum:  I couldn't find a model no. on my "Hamilton Combination"
   stand, but it's the one with three telescoping shafts for the vertical,
   plus further adjustment at the legs.  There are friction/tension
   clamps, rather than clips so that adjustments are virtually infinite
   for the rise and leg position.

   Leonard
   -Original Message-
   From: Leonard Williams 
   To: martin ; lute 
   Sent: Wed, Oct 17, 2018 1:12 pm
   Subject: [LUTE] Re: music stands
 Mine is a metal "Hamilton Combination"--very adjustable for height
   and
 tilt.  Completely collapsible.  I've had it for so long I don't
   recall
 source or cost, unfortunately.
 Leonard
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Shepherd <[1]mar...@luteshop.co.uk>
 To: Lute List <[2]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
 Sent: Wed, Oct 17, 2018 11:47 am
 Subject: [LUTE] music stands
 Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't
 mean
 the very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.  I ask
 because it seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and
 unstable.  I have one (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches to
 the
 rest with just one rivet, so it just wobbles.
 I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces, too.
 Thanks for any advice,
 M
 ---
 This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
 [1][3]https://www.avast.com/antivirus
 To get on or off this list see list information at
 [2][4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
 --
   References
 1. [5]https://www.avast.com/antivirus
 2. [6]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

   --

References

   1. mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk
   2. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   3. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
   4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   5. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
   6. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html



[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-17 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
K & M - German made -are the best !

Jean-Marie

--
 
>Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't mean 
>the very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.  I ask 
>because it seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and 
>unstable.  I have one (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches to the 
>rest with just one rivet, so it just wobbles.
>
>I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces, too.
>
>Thanks for any advice,
>
>M
>
>
>
>---
>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>https://www.avast.com/antivirus
>
>
>
>To get on or off this list see list information at
>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html




[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-17 Thread Leonard Williams
   Mine is a metal "Hamilton Combination"--very adjustable for height and
   tilt.  Completely collapsible.  I've had it for so long I don't recall
   source or cost, unfortunately.

   Leonard
   -Original Message-
   From: Martin Shepherd 
   To: Lute List 
   Sent: Wed, Oct 17, 2018 11:47 am
   Subject: [LUTE] music stands
   Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't
   mean
   the very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.  I ask
   because it seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and
   unstable.  I have one (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches to
   the
   rest with just one rivet, so it just wobbles.
   I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces, too.
   Thanks for any advice,
   M
   ---
   This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
   [1]https://www.avast.com/antivirus
   To get on or off this list see list information at
   [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

   --

References

   1. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
   2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html



[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-17 Thread guy_and_liz Smith
I've been using a K regularly for years for both early and modern music (jazz 
and band). It's light and compact and works very well but does have some 
limitations. In particular, it's a bit tippy in windy conditions (I play 
outdoor band concerts at times) or when you put anything very heavy on it (like 
a large gig book). It also on the narrow side for pieces that run more than two 
pages.  I'm thinking of the Manhasset portable stand for those occasions where 
the K isn't going to work so well. It's heavier and more cumbersome to tote 
around, but also more stable with a wider desk.

Guy

-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of 
Braig, Eugene
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 9:01 AM
To: lute mailing list list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: music stands

I like my own K

Best,
Eugene


-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  On Behalf Of Lex 
van Sante
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:56 AM
To: Martin Shepherd ; lute mailing list list 

Subject: [LUTE] Re: music stands

Hi Martin, I think the best ones are made by K An alternative is RGB. Both 
are made in Germany or at least made to German standards. They will cost from 
25 to 35 euro depending on where you buy them. 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 17 okt. 2018 om 17:47 heeft Martin Shepherd  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't mean the 
> very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.  I ask because it 
> seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and unstable.  I have one 
> (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches to the rest with just one rivet, 
> so it just wobbles.
> 
> I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces, too.
> 
> Thanks for any advice,
> 
> M
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.avast.com%2Fantivirusdata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca19b41e6c3a74378e99708d6344a0849%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753891117503802sdata=ae%2BZdSlpEYHMBX%2BeQayva9BS9I6UiPPdQvs8zJLUTXo%3Dreserved=0
> 
> 
> 
> To get on or off this list see list information at 
> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http:%2F%2Fwww.cs.dartmouth.edu%2F~wbc%2Flute-admin%2Findex.htmldata=02%7C01%7C%7Ca19b41e6c3a74378e99708d6344a0849%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636753891117503802sdata=yx1fbo8m7uusvvMqTBZ8fgZTWx3jjbWAHb7IpafUFgY%3Dreserved=0








[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-17 Thread Braig, Eugene
I like my own K

Best,
Eugene


-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu  On Behalf Of Lex 
van Sante
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:56 AM
To: Martin Shepherd ; lute mailing list list 

Subject: [LUTE] Re: music stands

Hi Martin, I think the best ones are made by K An alternative is RGB. Both 
are made in Germany or at least made to German standards. They will cost from 
25 to 35 euro depending on where you buy them. 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 17 okt. 2018 om 17:47 heeft Martin Shepherd  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't mean the 
> very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.  I ask because it 
> seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and unstable.  I have one 
> (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches to the rest with just one rivet, 
> so it just wobbles.
> 
> I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces, too.
> 
> Thanks for any advice,
> 
> M
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
> 
> 
> 
> To get on or off this list see list information at 
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html






[LUTE] Re: music stands

2018-10-17 Thread Lex van Sante
Hi Martin, I think the best ones are made by K An alternative is RGB. Both 
are made in Germany or at least made to German standards. They will cost from 
25 to 35 euro depending on where you buy them. 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 17 okt. 2018 om 17:47 heeft Martin Shepherd  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good traditional metal music stand?  I don't mean the 
> very heavy orchestral stand, just a "normal" fold-out one.  I ask because it 
> seems that they're all made in China and are flimsy and unstable.  I have one 
> (I think it's Stagg) where the top attaches to the rest with just one rivet, 
> so it just wobbles.
> 
> I need the little fold-out arms so I can see three-page pieces, too.
> 
> Thanks for any advice,
> 
> M
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
> 
> 
> 
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html