Re: [Lxc-users] usb devices

2010-08-03 Thread Nirmal Guhan
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Toby Corkindale
toby.corkind...@strategicdata.com.au wrote:
 On 03/08/10 09:04, Nirmal Guhan wrote:
 Hi,

 Am running fedora 12 with 2.6.32.10-90.fc12.i686 kernel. Currently I
 use bind mount to access usb disks. For instance :

 /media /lxc/f12/usbdisk none bind 0 0

 udev mounts usb devices on /media. There are some issues with this approach :

 1) Since this is hard coded config, it has to be updated everytime the
 mount point (/media in this case) changes.
 2) If I unmount /media from the host, the container can still access
 the disk from /usbdisk i.e ls /usbdisk and other operations work
 within container but not /media from the host. How is this possible ?
 3)  By #2, I assume there is some sort of usb pass-through within
 container? Is this true ?

 No, it's not true. There is no special USB pass-thru to the container.

 By making a bind-mount, you are replicating part of the filesystem so
 that it is inside the bit of the filesystem that LXC is using.
 This is done at the filesystem level - not at the USB level.

 This explains why you can still access it after unmounting at the host
 level. You have effectively mounted it twice, so it needs to be
 unmounted from both locations too.

Ah! yes. Good catch.


 4) Hot swap does not work within the container. After usb device is
 reinserted, container cannot recognize it but host can.
 5) mount within the container  always displays just one single line
 while I have few more in fstab including the above /media stuff.
       none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)

 Again, that's because of the way LXC works with the filesystem.

 Perhaps you could just bind-mount the whole /media directory into the
 guest containers, to their /media directory? That might work better for
 you, although still not quite what you want.

Thanks Toby. I doubt if this will address #1 and #4 above. Basically,
how to make hot swap work? Or what are the workaround to get
notifications if I have to manually mount/umount.



 -Toby

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Re: [Lxc-users] usb devices

2010-08-03 Thread Toby Corkindale
On 03/08/10 17:44, Nirmal Guhan wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Toby Corkindale
 toby.corkind...@strategicdata.com.au  wrote:
 On 03/08/10 09:04, Nirmal Guhan wrote:
 4) Hot swap does not work within the container. After usb device is
 reinserted, container cannot recognize it but host can.
 5) mount within the container  always displays just one single line
 while I have few more in fstab including the above /media stuff.
none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)

 Again, that's because of the way LXC works with the filesystem.

 Perhaps you could just bind-mount the whole /media directory into the
 guest containers, to their /media directory? That might work better for
 you, although still not quite what you want.

 Thanks Toby. I doubt if this will address #1 and #4 above. Basically,
 how to make hot swap work? Or what are the workaround to get
 notifications if I have to manually mount/umount.


I think you would need to adjust the devices permissions for your 
container, for the usb nodes.. but I'm not sure.. then the container 
could talk to the USB devices over USB, and handle the hotswapping.
However I'd expect conflicts to occur with the host trying to talk to 
the same device.
Try adding this to your config file?

lxc.cgroup.devices.allow = c 189:* rwm

I'm no expert and I haven't tried this myself, mind, so you might prefer 
to wait for someone more qualified to answer.

-Toby

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Re: [Lxc-users] usb devices

2010-08-02 Thread Toby Corkindale
On 03/08/10 09:04, Nirmal Guhan wrote:
 Hi,

 Am running fedora 12 with 2.6.32.10-90.fc12.i686 kernel. Currently I
 use bind mount to access usb disks. For instance :

 /media /lxc/f12/usbdisk none bind 0 0

 udev mounts usb devices on /media. There are some issues with this approach :

 1) Since this is hard coded config, it has to be updated everytime the
 mount point (/media in this case) changes.
 2) If I unmount /media from the host, the container can still access
 the disk from /usbdisk i.e ls /usbdisk and other operations work
 within container but not /media from the host. How is this possible ?
 3)  By #2, I assume there is some sort of usb pass-through within
 container? Is this true ?

No, it's not true. There is no special USB pass-thru to the container.

By making a bind-mount, you are replicating part of the filesystem so 
that it is inside the bit of the filesystem that LXC is using.
This is done at the filesystem level - not at the USB level.

This explains why you can still access it after unmounting at the host 
level. You have effectively mounted it twice, so it needs to be 
unmounted from both locations too.

 4) Hot swap does not work within the container. After usb device is
 reinserted, container cannot recognize it but host can.
 5) mount within the container  always displays just one single line
 while I have few more in fstab including the above /media stuff.
   none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)

Again, that's because of the way LXC works with the filesystem.

Perhaps you could just bind-mount the whole /media directory into the 
guest containers, to their /media directory? That might work better for 
you, although still not quite what you want.


-Toby

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