Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] Re: Oxygen without KDE

2013-11-02 Thread Martin Graesslin
On Thursday 31 October 2013 22:34:27 PCMan wrote:
 KDE uses its own color schemes and I studied it earlier, but it seems that
 their solution only applies to KDE-based software, not plain Qt.
 For plain Qt applications, the colors are not as configurable and the
 choices are quite limited.
Just a few weeks ago I had a look into how the color handling inside KDE 
works[1]. It's actually quite simple:

qApp-
setPalette(KColorScheme::createApplicationPalette(KSharedConfig::openConfig()));

unfortunately it's a tier3 framework (kconfigwidgets) so probably unsuited for 
LXQt. Hopefully we will soon have the diagram showing the inter-dependencies 
of all frameworks. Could be that this only depends on KConfig.

Cheers
Martin

[1] Was experimenting with getting the color scheme from the app followed in 
the window decoration, mandatory screenshot: 
https://plus.google.com/115606635748721265446/posts/YLC2J2qV5Ap

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Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] Re: Oxygen without KDE

2013-10-31 Thread PCMan
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:17 PM, TabletHater acarb...@gmail.com wrote:

 As well as qtcurve-qt, bespin-svn can be compiled as qt-only too which has
 the benefit of configurability unlike qtcurve-qt and is better than
 qtconfig-qt4. These two were the only means of having a relatively fine
 experience when I had a qt-only fluxbox system.


I tried fusion-qt4 on my Archlinux system. It works as advertised and I
encountered no problems so far. We only need better color schemes.
Most of the time I use Cleanlook. Tried qtcurve before and I also like it.
Getting rid of Oxygen by default, which is KDE-dependent, is possible, I
think.


 I had created some colour schemes (Trolltech.conf presets) manually, using
 qtconfig-qt4 which is a pain in the xxx as it has a disfunctional colour
 chooser to which a great alternative exists now:
 https://github.com/mbasaglia/Qt-Color-Picker.

 Though this would likely be the job of distro developers, it would be nice
 for users to have a few tried and tested Trolltech.conf presets.


I totally agreed with that.
KDE uses its own color schemes and I studied it earlier, but it seems that
their solution only applies to KDE-based software, not plain Qt.
For plain Qt applications, the colors are not as configurable and the
choices are quite limited.
We, however, can provide some preset color schemes. I agree with you.

The UI of qtconfig-qt4 is just horrible. We need something better in
lxqt-config-appearance. It's priority is not that high, though.
At least we should make the whole desktop session work reliably, and start
adding new features. I'm willing to improve this part later.


 Sorry if all these sound foolish as I'm just an end user and thanks a lot
 for your good work.

 No, it's not foolish at all. Actually user experience is one of the only
things that really matter. It takes some time to improve the programs,
though.


 On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:34:42 AM UTC+2, Jerome Leclanche wrote:

 Well, after several improvements to Juffed, I finally got rid of my last
 KDE libs.

 But ouch, that means no more Oxygen. Thankfully oxygen-icons are properly
 packaged without dependencies on KDE, but the oxygen Qt theme has deep
 dependencies on KDE.

 I had a look at it and it pulls its dependencies between kde-workspace
 and kdelibs. I tried forking it and compiling it on its own; most of it is
 easy but I end up getting lost, especially when porting the cmakelists.

 Are there any volunteers in working on something like that? Qt has very
 few themes, and most of them are garbage. Oxygen happens to be extremely
 good, and none of its actual painting depends on KDE from what i can see
 (it's mostly configuration utilities).

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Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] Re: Oxygen without KDE

2013-10-31 Thread TabletHater
Well, I was using these with qtcurve-qt selected in the qtconfig-qt4.

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 5:30:49 PM UTC+2, TabletHater wrote:

 Thank you. If anyone is interested, attached are my Trolltech presets.

 On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:34:27 PM UTC+2, PCMan wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:17 PM, TabletHater acar...@gmail.com wrote:

 As well as qtcurve-qt, bespin-svn can be compiled as qt-only too which 
 has the benefit of configurability unlike qtcurve-qt and is better than 
 qtconfig-qt4. These two were the only means of having a relatively fine 
 experience when I had a qt-only fluxbox system.


 I tried fusion-qt4 on my Archlinux system. It works as advertised and I 
 encountered no problems so far. We only need better color schemes.
 Most of the time I use Cleanlook. Tried qtcurve before and I also like it.
 Getting rid of Oxygen by default, which is KDE-dependent, is possible, I 
 think.
  

 I had created some colour schemes (Trolltech.conf presets) manually, 
 using qtconfig-qt4 which is a pain in the xxx as it has a disfunctional 
 colour chooser to which a great alternative exists now: 
 https://github.com/mbasaglia/Qt-Color-Picker.

 Though this would likely be the job of distro developers, it would be 
 nice for users to have a few tried and tested Trolltech.conf presets.


 I totally agreed with that.
 KDE uses its own color schemes and I studied it earlier, but it seems 
 that their solution only applies to KDE-based software, not plain Qt.
 For plain Qt applications, the colors are not as configurable and the 
 choices are quite limited.
 We, however, can provide some preset color schemes. I agree with you.

 The UI of qtconfig-qt4 is just horrible. We need something better in 
 lxqt-config-appearance. It's priority is not that high, though.
 At least we should make the whole desktop session work reliably, and 
 start adding new features. I'm willing to improve this part later.
  

 Sorry if all these sound foolish as I'm just an end user and thanks a 
 lot for your good work.

 No, it's not foolish at all. Actually user experience is one of the only 
 things that really matter. It takes some time to improve the programs, 
 though.
  

 On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:34:42 AM UTC+2, Jerome Leclanche wrote:

 Well, after several improvements to Juffed, I finally got rid of my 
 last KDE libs.

 But ouch, that means no more Oxygen. Thankfully oxygen-icons are 
 properly packaged without dependencies on KDE, but the oxygen Qt theme has 
 deep dependencies on KDE.

 I had a look at it and it pulls its dependencies between kde-workspace 
 and kdelibs. I tried forking it and compiling it on its own; most of it is 
 easy but I end up getting lost, especially when porting the cmakelists.

 Are there any volunteers in working on something like that? Qt has very 
 few themes, and most of them are garbage. Oxygen happens to be extremely 
 good, and none of its actual painting depends on KDE from what i can see 
 (it's mostly configuration utilities).

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Re: [Lxde-list] [razor-qt] Re: Oxygen without KDE

2013-10-31 Thread TabletHater
Thank you. If anyone is interested, attached are my Trolltech presets.

On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:34:27 PM UTC+2, PCMan wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:17 PM, TabletHater acar...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 As well as qtcurve-qt, bespin-svn can be compiled as qt-only too which 
 has the benefit of configurability unlike qtcurve-qt and is better than 
 qtconfig-qt4. These two were the only means of having a relatively fine 
 experience when I had a qt-only fluxbox system.


 I tried fusion-qt4 on my Archlinux system. It works as advertised and I 
 encountered no problems so far. We only need better color schemes.
 Most of the time I use Cleanlook. Tried qtcurve before and I also like it.
 Getting rid of Oxygen by default, which is KDE-dependent, is possible, I 
 think.
  

 I had created some colour schemes (Trolltech.conf presets) manually, 
 using qtconfig-qt4 which is a pain in the xxx as it has a disfunctional 
 colour chooser to which a great alternative exists now: 
 https://github.com/mbasaglia/Qt-Color-Picker.

 Though this would likely be the job of distro developers, it would be 
 nice for users to have a few tried and tested Trolltech.conf presets.


 I totally agreed with that.
 KDE uses its own color schemes and I studied it earlier, but it seems that 
 their solution only applies to KDE-based software, not plain Qt.
 For plain Qt applications, the colors are not as configurable and the 
 choices are quite limited.
 We, however, can provide some preset color schemes. I agree with you.

 The UI of qtconfig-qt4 is just horrible. We need something better in 
 lxqt-config-appearance. It's priority is not that high, though.
 At least we should make the whole desktop session work reliably, and start 
 adding new features. I'm willing to improve this part later.
  

 Sorry if all these sound foolish as I'm just an end user and thanks a lot 
 for your good work.

 No, it's not foolish at all. Actually user experience is one of the only 
 things that really matter. It takes some time to improve the programs, 
 though.
  

 On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 2:34:42 AM UTC+2, Jerome Leclanche wrote:

 Well, after several improvements to Juffed, I finally got rid of my last 
 KDE libs.

 But ouch, that means no more Oxygen. Thankfully oxygen-icons are 
 properly packaged without dependencies on KDE, but the oxygen Qt theme has 
 deep dependencies on KDE.

 I had a look at it and it pulls its dependencies between kde-workspace 
 and kdelibs. I tried forking it and compiling it on its own; most of it is 
 easy but I end up getting lost, especially when porting the cmakelists.

 Are there any volunteers in working on something like that? Qt has very 
 few themes, and most of them are garbage. Oxygen happens to be extremely 
 good, and none of its actual painting depends on KDE from what i can see 
 (it's mostly configuration utilities).

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