Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-06 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 23:17:31 Andre Poenitz wrote: Buts it would be sufficient if only insets that _do_ have a variable background would have that member. OK. I did not notice that it was in the base member but then it makes sense to be static since that is a property of the class not of

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Bo == Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, you are making my problems ;-) When I want to change background I have to take into account mathhoverbg, too. Please, remove that. Bo This part is true, but the same goes to buttonbg and Bo buttonhoverbg. No because these do not use the window

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:07:40PM +0100, José Matos wrote: On Tuesday 05 June 2007 19:16:08 Andre Poenitz wrote: Right. Commit 17913 added  int InsetBase::background_color_ to InsetBase that used to be 16 bytes a while ago. Andre'

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or replace the corners by a change of color of the inset that is currently edited. Andre That would be the _outermost_ inset that's being edited? Don't know :) JMarc

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-06 Thread Helge Hafting
Enrico Forestieri wrote: Maybe we can try to avoid not having a space after math. I mean, when you leave a math inset by hitting the space bar, LyX does not insert a space after the math and perhaps it should. I think that this change would cure the vast majority of missing space after math

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 09:24:48AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:07:40PM +0100, José Matos wrote: On Tuesday 05 June 2007 19:16:08 Andre Poenitz wrote: Right. Commit 17913 added  int

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-06 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 23:17:31 Andre Poenitz wrote: > Buts it would be sufficient if only insets that _do_ have a variable > background would have that member. OK. I did not notice that it was in the base member but then it makes sense to be static since that is a property of the class not

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Bo" == Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> No, you are making my problems ;-) When I want to change background >> I have to take into account mathhoverbg, too. Please, remove that. Bo> This part is true, but the same goes to buttonbg and Bo> buttonhoverbg. No because these do not use

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:07:40PM +0100, José Matos wrote: >> On Tuesday 05 June 2007 19:16:08 Andre Poenitz wrote: > Right. >> Commit 17913 added  int InsetBase::background_color_ to InsetBase > >> that used to be 16 bytes a

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-06 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Or replace the corners by a change of color of the inset that is >> currently edited. Andre> That would be the _outermost_ inset that's being edited? Don't know :) JMarc

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-06 Thread Helge Hafting
Enrico Forestieri wrote: Maybe we can try to avoid not having a space after math. I mean, when you leave a math inset by hitting the space bar, LyX does not insert a space after the math and perhaps it should. I think that this change would cure the vast majority of "missing space after math"

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-06 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Jun 06, 2007 at 09:24:48AM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Andre> On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:07:40PM +0100, José Matos wrote: > >> On Tuesday 05 June 2007 19:16:08 Andre Poenitz wrote: > Right. > >> Commit 17913 added  

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 04:34:32PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a flashy yellow background. I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed in 1.5.0. And this increased the size of small insets only by 20%...

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Bo Peng wrote: Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a flashy yellow background. I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed in 1.5.0. Can we use a color that is different from background as default? If people do not

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Helge Hafting
Bo Peng wrote: Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a flashy yellow background. I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed in 1.5.0. Can we use a color that is different from background as default? If people do not like it, they can change

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Peng
I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed in 1.5.0. And this increased the size of small insets only by 20%... what a bargain! You mean adding background increases inset size? I have no idea what you are talking about here. Bo

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:11:02AM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed in 1.5.0. And this increased the size of small insets only by 20%... what a bargain! You mean adding background increases inset size? I have no idea what you

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:56:41PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: Bo Peng wrote: Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a flashy yellow background. I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed in 1.5.0. Can we use a color that is different

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Peng
I suppose he means the memory footprint. /** We store the Color::color value as an int to get Color.h out * of the header file. */ int background_color_; This has nothing to do with my patch. If he meant bool mouse_hover_, then he calculated wrong because

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:11:02AM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed in 1.5.0. And this increased the size of small insets only by 20%... what a bargain! You mean adding background increases inset size? I have no idea what you

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 04:25:27PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:56:41PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: Bo Peng wrote: Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a flashy yellow background. I guess very few people know the background

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Peng
You are right, that's it. I simply noticed that the space between the math inset and an 'a' in $1$a and $g$a seems to be bigger in the first case, but that turns out to be an optical effect. And a non-background mathbg shows the problem clearly. Bo

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:09:26PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: You are right, that's it. I simply noticed that the space between the math inset and an 'a' in $1$a and $g$a seems to be bigger in the first case, but that turns out to be an optical effect. And a non-background mathbg shows the

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:17:37PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 04:25:27PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:56:41PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: Bo Peng wrote: Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a flashy

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:02:36PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:17:37PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 04:25:27PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:56:41PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: Bo Peng wrote: Note

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 19:16:08 Andre Poenitz wrote: Right. Commit 17913 added  int InsetBase::background_color_ to InsetBase that used to be 16 bytes a while ago. Andre' Cann't that be a class method instead of an instance method? (In C++ parlance mode a static class method/data I think).

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre There is an easy solution which is, unfortunately, not easy at Andre all: Do not reserve extra space for the corner markers, but Andre draw the corner markers outside the space owned by the inset. Or replace the corners by a change of color

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:13:11PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre There is an easy solution which is, unfortunately, not easy at Andre all: Do not reserve extra space for the corner markers, but Andre draw the corner markers outside

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Peng
Please, no changing colours, no special effects, no eye candies... These things may be easier to implement but are very annoying. Please test the patch I proposed (the newer version), along with the problems I described. Bo

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 04:46:56PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: Please, no changing colours, no special effects, no eye candies... These things may be easier to implement but are very annoying. Please test the patch I proposed (the newer version), along with the problems I described. Actually, I

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Peng
Actually, I tested it. As I had changed the background colours, I saw flashing colours all around when I moved the cursor over a math inset. mathbg and mathhoverbg are the same as background. If you set them to flashing colors, that is your problem. The only change to the default behavior is

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 05:05:05PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: Actually, I tested it. As I had changed the background colours, I saw flashing colours all around when I moved the cursor over a math inset. mathbg and mathhoverbg are the same as background. If you set them to flashing colors,

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Peng
No, you are making my problems ;-) When I want to change background I have to take into account mathhoverbg, too. Please, remove that. This part is true, but the same goes to buttonbg and buttonhoverbg. Yes, if you remove mathhoverbg, that would be true. So the defaults should fit your

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:07:40PM +0100, José Matos wrote: On Tuesday 05 June 2007 19:16:08 Andre Poenitz wrote: Right. Commit 17913 added  int InsetBase::background_color_ to InsetBase that used to be 16 bytes a while ago. Andre' Cann't that be a class method instead of an instance

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:13:11PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Andre == Andre Poenitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andre There is an easy solution which is, unfortunately, not easy at Andre all: Do not reserve extra space for the corner markers, but Andre draw the corner markers outside

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 05:17:20PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: No, you are making my problems ;-) When I want to change background I have to take into account mathhoverbg, too. Please, remove that. This part is true, but the same goes to buttonbg and buttonhoverbg. Seems that you are making me

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 04:34:32PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: > >Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a > >flashy yellow background. > > I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed > in 1.5.0. And this increased the size of small insets only by

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Bo Peng wrote: Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a flashy yellow background. I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed in 1.5.0. Can we use a color that is different from background as default? If people do not

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Helge Hafting
Bo Peng wrote: Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a flashy yellow background. I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed in 1.5.0. Can we use a color that is different from background as default? If people do not like it, they can change

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Peng
> I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed > in 1.5.0. And this increased the size of small insets only by 20%... what a bargain! You mean adding background increases inset size? I have no idea what you are talking about here. Bo

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:11:02AM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: > >> I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed > >> in 1.5.0. > > > >And this increased the size of small insets only by 20%... what a > >bargain! > > You mean adding background increases inset size? I have no

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:56:41PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > Bo Peng wrote: > >> Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a > >> flashy yellow background. > > > > I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed > > in 1.5.0. Can we use a color that

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Peng
I suppose he means the memory footprint. /** We store the Color::color value as an int to get Color.h out * of the header file. */ int background_color_; This has nothing to do with my patch. If he meant bool mouse_hover_, then he calculated wrong because

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:11:02AM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: > >> I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed > >> in 1.5.0. > > > >And this increased the size of small insets only by 20%... what a > >bargain! > > You mean adding background increases inset size? I have no

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 04:25:27PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:56:41PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > > Bo Peng wrote: > > >> Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a > > >> flashy yellow background. > > > > > > I guess very few people

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Peng
You are right, that's it. I simply noticed that the space between the math inset and an 'a' in $1$a and $g$a seems to be bigger in the first case, but that turns out to be an optical effect. And a non-background mathbg shows the problem clearly. Bo

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 02:09:26PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: > > You are right, that's it. I simply noticed that the space > > between the math inset and an 'a' in $1$a and $g$a seems to be > > bigger in the first case, but that turns out to be an optical effect. > > And a non-background mathbg shows

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:17:37PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 04:25:27PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:56:41PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > > > Bo Peng wrote: > > > >> Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a >

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 09:02:36PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 08:17:37PM +0200, Andre Poenitz wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 04:25:27PM +0200, Enrico Forestieri wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 12:56:41PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > > > > Bo Peng wrote: > >

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 19:16:08 Andre Poenitz wrote: > Right. Commit 17913 added  int InsetBase::background_color_ to InsetBase > that used to be 16 bytes a while ago. > > Andre' Cann't that be a class method instead of an instance method? (In C++ parlance mode a static class method/data I

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andre> There is an easy solution which is, unfortunately, not easy at Andre> all: Do not reserve extra space for the corner markers, but Andre> draw the corner markers outside the space owned by the inset. Or replace the corners by a

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:13:11PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Andre> There is an easy solution which is, unfortunately, not easy at > Andre> all: Do not reserve extra space for the corner markers, but > Andre> draw the

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Peng
Please, no changing colours, no special effects, no eye candies... These things may be easier to implement but are very annoying. Please test the patch I proposed (the newer version), along with the problems I described. Bo

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 04:46:56PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: > > Please, no changing colours, no special effects, no eye candies... > > These things may be easier to implement but are very annoying. > > Please test the patch I proposed (the newer version), along with the > problems I described.

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Peng
Actually, I tested it. As I had changed the background colours, I saw flashing colours all around when I moved the cursor over a math inset. mathbg and mathhoverbg are the same as background. If you set them to flashing colors, that is your problem. The only change to the default behavior is

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 05:05:05PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: > > Actually, I tested it. As I had changed the background colours, I > > saw flashing colours all around when I moved the cursor over a math > > inset. > > mathbg and mathhoverbg are the same as background. If you set them to > flashing

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Peng
No, you are making my problems ;-) When I want to change background I have to take into account mathhoverbg, too. Please, remove that. This part is true, but the same goes to buttonbg and buttonhoverbg. Yes, if you remove mathhoverbg, that would be true. So the defaults should fit your

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 10:07:40PM +0100, José Matos wrote: > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 19:16:08 Andre Poenitz wrote: > > Right. Commit 17913 added  int InsetBase::background_color_ to InsetBase > > that used to be 16 bytes a while ago. > > > > Andre' > > Cann't that be a class method instead of an

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:13:11PM +0200, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > > "Andre" == Andre Poenitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Andre> There is an easy solution which is, unfortunately, not easy at > Andre> all: Do not reserve extra space for the corner markers, but > Andre> draw the

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Forestieri
On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 05:17:20PM -0500, Bo Peng wrote: > > No, you are making my problems ;-) > > When I want to change background I have to take into account > > mathhoverbg, too. Please, remove that. > > This part is true, but the same goes to buttonbg and buttonhoverbg. Seems that you are

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Andreas Neustifter wrote: On 02.06.2007, at 00:39, Tim Michelsen wrote: I just want to add something from a users experience with math in normal text. As far as I can recall, one reason that I particularly wanted this feature was to enable me to see more clearly

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Helge Hafting
Tim Michelsen wrote: Hello, I just want to add something from a users experience with math in normal text. As far as I can recall, one reason that I particularly wanted this feature was to enable me to see more clearly whether or not I had spaces between a formula and the text following or

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Richard Heck
Helge Hafting wrote: Tim Michelsen wrote: Hello, I just want to add something from a users experience with math in normal text. As far as I can recall, one reason that I particularly wanted this feature was to enable me to see more clearly whether or not I had spaces between a formula and

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Tim Michelsen
Hm. If LaTeX don't add spacing there, then LyX shouldn't either, unless LyX also add spaces in the output. But there will be cases where people want no spaces, so I think LyX shouldn't add anything. Agreed. I think you are both right concerning output there shouldn't be added anything in LyX

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Bo Peng
I think what the could be useful is a better (visual) user feedback on wheather there'll be /real/ space or not in the output. I have not followed this thread closely, but are you guys suggesting *visible* blanks and newlines as what vim and word have? I would support such a feature request.

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Tim Michelsen
Bo Peng schrieb: I think what the could be useful is a better (visual) user feedback on wheather there'll be /real/ space or not in the output. I have not followed this thread closely, but are you guys suggesting *visible* blanks and newlines as what vim and word have? Kind of. There are

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Tim == Tim Michelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tim Bo Peng schrieb: I think what the could be useful is a better (visual) user feedback on wheather there'll be /real/ space or not in the output. I have not followed this thread closely, but are you guys suggesting *visible* blanks and

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Tim Michelsen
Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a flashy yellow background. OK, then. To conclude this matter: We will try that and if not sufficient look for other forms of improvement.

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Bo Peng
Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a flashy yellow background. I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed in 1.5.0. Can we use a color that is different from background as default? If people do not like it, they can change it back to

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
Bo == Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a flashy yellow background. Bo I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be Bo changed in 1.5.0. Can we use a color that is different from Bo background as default? If

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Tim Michelsen
Bo I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be Bo changed in 1.5.0. Can we use a color that is different from Bo background as default? If people do not like it, they can change Bo it back to background color. What about adding this kind of information to *_splash.lyx? We could

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Bo Peng
Personally, as a reasonably heavy math use, I'd hate to have a windows cluttered by differently colored insets all over. You will not, because I will propose a background color that is the same as buttonbg; and if you are willing to go a step further, the attached patch implements mathhoverbg

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Richard Heck
Bo Peng wrote: Personally, as a reasonably heavy math use, I'd hate to have a windows cluttered by differently colored insets all over. You will not, because I will propose a background color that is the same as buttonbg; and if you are willing to go a step further, the attached patch

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Bo Peng
I'd propose a background color that is only BARELY different from the normal background. So you'd see the difference but it wouldn't be intrusive. Please apply the patch and propose a color that you like most. My proposed colors are the same as those of buttons so no additional color has been

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Andreas Neustifter wrote: On 02.06.2007, at 00:39, Tim Michelsen wrote: I just want to add something from a users experience with math in normal text. > > As far as I can recall, one reason that I particularly wanted this > > feature > > was to enable me to see more

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Helge Hafting
Tim Michelsen wrote: Hello, I just want to add something from a users experience with math in normal text. As far as I can recall, one reason that I particularly wanted this feature was to enable me to see more clearly whether or not I had spaces between a formula and the text following or

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Richard Heck
Helge Hafting wrote: Tim Michelsen wrote: Hello, I just want to add something from a users experience with math in normal text. As far as I can recall, one reason that I particularly wanted this feature was to enable me to see more clearly whether or not I had spaces between a formula and

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Tim Michelsen
Hm. If LaTeX don't add spacing there, then LyX shouldn't either, unless LyX also add spaces in the output. But there will be cases where people want no spaces, so I think LyX shouldn't add anything. Agreed. I think you are both right concerning output there shouldn't be added anything in LyX

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Bo Peng
I think what the could be useful is a better (visual) user feedback on wheather there'll be /real/ space or not in the output. I have not followed this thread closely, but are you guys suggesting *visible* blanks and newlines as what vim and word have? I would support such a feature request.

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Tim Michelsen
Bo Peng schrieb: I think what the could be useful is a better (visual) user feedback on wheather there'll be /real/ space or not in the output. I have not followed this thread closely, but are you guys suggesting *visible* blanks and newlines as what vim and word have? Kind of. There are

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Tim" == Tim Michelsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Tim> Bo Peng schrieb: >>> I think what the could be useful is a better (visual) user >>> feedback on wheather there'll be /real/ space or not in the >>> output. >> I have not followed this thread closely, but are you guys >> suggesting

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Tim Michelsen
> Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a > flashy yellow background. OK, then. To conclude this matter: We will try that and if not sufficient look for other forms of improvement.

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Bo Peng
Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a flashy yellow background. I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be changed in 1.5.0. Can we use a color that is different from background as default? If people do not like it, they can change it back to

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Jean-Marc Lasgouttes
> "Bo" == Bo Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Note that 1.5 should support math background allowing you to have a >> flashy yellow background. Bo> I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be Bo> changed in 1.5.0. Can we use a color that is different from Bo> background as

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Tim Michelsen
Bo> I guess very few people know the background of mathed can be Bo> changed in 1.5.0. Can we use a color that is different from Bo> background as default? If people do not like it, they can change Bo> it back to background color. What about adding this kind of information to *_splash.lyx? We

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Bo Peng
Personally, as a reasonably heavy math use, I'd hate to have a windows cluttered by differently colored insets all over. You will not, because I will propose a background color that is the same as buttonbg; and if you are willing to go a step further, the attached patch implements mathhoverbg

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Richard Heck
Bo Peng wrote: Personally, as a reasonably heavy math use, I'd hate to have a windows cluttered by differently colored insets all over. You will not, because I will propose a background color that is the same as buttonbg; and if you are willing to go a step further, the attached patch

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-04 Thread Bo Peng
I'd propose a background color that is only BARELY different from the normal background. So you'd see the difference but it wouldn't be intrusive. Please apply the patch and propose a color that you like most. My proposed colors are the same as those of buttons so no additional color has been

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-03 Thread Andreas Neustifter
On 02.06.2007, at 00:39, Tim Michelsen wrote: I just want to add something from a users experience with math in normal text. As far as I can recall, one reason that I particularly wanted this feature was to enable me to see more clearly whether or not I had spaces between a formula and

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-03 Thread Andreas Neustifter
On 02.06.2007, at 00:39, Tim Michelsen wrote: I just want to add something from a users experience with math in normal text. As far as I can recall, one reason that I particularly wanted this feature was to enable me to see more clearly whether or not I had spaces between a formula and

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-02 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Tim Michelsen wrote: Hello, I just want to add something from a users experience with math in normal text. As far as I can recall, one reason that I particularly wanted this feature was to enable me to see more clearly whether or not I had spaces between a formula and the

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-02 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Fri, 1 Jun 2007, Tim Michelsen wrote: Hello, I just want to add something from a users experience with math in normal text. As far as I can recall, one reason that I particularly wanted this feature was to enable me to see more clearly whether or not I had spaces between a formula and the

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-01 Thread Tim Michelsen
Hello, I just want to add something from a users experience with math in normal text. As far as I can recall, one reason that I particularly wanted this feature was to enable me to see more clearly whether or not I had spaces between a formula and the text following or preceding it. I

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-06-01 Thread Tim Michelsen
Hello, I just want to add something from a users experience with math in normal text. > > As far as I can recall, one reason that I particularly wanted this feature > > was to enable me to see more clearly whether or not I had spaces between > > a formula and the text following or preceding it.

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-05-13 Thread Bo Peng
I too now have to report that, at least in Lyx 1.4 3-4 running under windows on my computer, the option for changing the colour of the math background does not change anything. Hi, Dr. Cwikel, Support for math background and math corners have been added to lyx. You should be able to adjust

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-05-13 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 13 May 2007, Bo Peng wrote: I too now have to report that, at least in Lyx 1.4 3-4 running under windows on my computer, the option for changing the colour of the math background does not change anything. Hi, Dr. Cwikel, Support for math background and math corners have been added

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-05-13 Thread Bo Peng
I too now have to report that, at least in Lyx 1.4 3-4 running under windows on my computer, the option for changing the colour of the math background does not change anything. Hi, Dr. Cwikel, Support for math background and math corners have been added to lyx. You should be able to adjust

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-05-13 Thread christian . ridderstrom
On Sun, 13 May 2007, Bo Peng wrote: I too now have to report that, at least in Lyx 1.4 3-4 running under windows on my computer, the option for changing the colour of the math background does not change anything. Hi, Dr. Cwikel, Support for math background and math corners have been added

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-05-10 Thread Andreas K .
Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am a professor of mathematics who has been using Scientific Word intensively for many years. Been there, switched to Lyx. Me too. I just wish I had done it earlier. Andreas

Re: How to make Lyx DRAMATICALLY better.

2007-05-10 Thread Andreas K .
Abdelrazak Younes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Bo == Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bo Tool - preference - color - math background? Except that it does nothing now. And even if it did, it will set the background for the whole equation. I would find

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