Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-19 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 19 September 2007 06:48:10 Martin Vermeer wrote: IIRC is (emph = {}, noun = []): [aaa { bbb ] ccc} will be translated as [aaa { bbb }]{ ccc} what is the problem? Yes, that's how to do it if you insist. And that's how a font attribute to inset converter has to

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-19 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:07:02 +0100 José Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2007 06:48:10 Martin Vermeer wrote: IIRC is (emph = {}, noun = []): [aaa { bbb ] ccc} will be translated as [aaa { bbb }]{ ccc} what is the problem? Yes, that's how

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-19 Thread Richard Heck
José Matos wrote: There are other more subtle problems, I have hit them before with docbook. Using the same notation let us suppose that some range has two properties applied, which version do we mean? [{range}] or {[range...]} The only sane procedure is to look to the export

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 08:07:02AM +0100, José Matos wrote: On Wednesday 19 September 2007 06:48:10 Martin Vermeer wrote: IIRC is (emph = {}, noun = []): [aaa { bbb ] ccc} will be translated as [aaa { bbb }]{ ccc} what is the problem? Yes, that's how to do it if

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-19 Thread José Matos
On Wednesday 19 September 2007 06:48:10 Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > > IIRC is (emph = {}, noun = []): > > > > [aaa { bbb ] ccc} > > > > will be translated as > > > > [aaa { bbb }]{ ccc} > > > > what is the problem? > > Yes, that's how to do it if you insist. And that's how a font attribute > to

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-19 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 08:07:02 +0100 José Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 19 September 2007 06:48:10 Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > > > > IIRC is (emph = {}, noun = []): > > > > > > [aaa { bbb ] ccc} > > > > > > will be translated as > > > > > > [aaa { bbb }]{ ccc} > > > > > > what is

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-19 Thread Richard Heck
José Matos wrote: There are other more subtle problems, I have hit them before with docbook. Using the same notation let us suppose that some range has two properties applied, which version do we mean? [{range}] or {[range...]} The only sane procedure is to look to the export

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-19 Thread Andre Poenitz
On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 08:07:02AM +0100, José Matos wrote: > On Wednesday 19 September 2007 06:48:10 Martin Vermeer wrote: > > > > > > IIRC is (emph = {}, noun = []): > > > > > > [aaa { bbb ] ccc} > > > > > > will be translated as > > > > > > [aaa { bbb }]{ ccc} > > > > > > what is the problem? >

LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Richard Heck
Are these LFUNs still desirable in their present form? I have specifically in mind LFUN_FONT_CODE and LFUN_FONT_NOUN, which have really been replaced with logical character styles. Richard -- == Richard G Heck, Jr Professor of

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 01:42:47PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: Are these LFUNs still desirable in their present form? I have specifically in mind LFUN_FONT_CODE and LFUN_FONT_NOUN, which have really been replaced with logical character styles. Richard Hmmm yes... actually I would like to

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Richard Heck
Martin Vermeer wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 01:42:47PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: Are these LFUNs still desirable in their present form? I have specifically in mind LFUN_FONT_CODE and LFUN_FONT_NOUN, which have really been replaced with logical character styles. Hmmm yes... actually

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 19:01:48 Martin Vermeer wrote: Providing the corresponding lyx2lyx entry is going to be interesting. But then we need the inset in inset case that André mentioned. After it is possible to have word in noun and emphasised right now and we should accommodate for

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:57:18PM +0100, José Matos wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2007 19:01:48 Martin Vermeer wrote: Providing the corresponding lyx2lyx entry is going to be interesting. But then we need the inset in inset case that André mentioned. After it is possible to have word

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 21:39:57 Martin Vermeer wrote: Cannot be (easily) done with insets. I would call that a feature: you shouldn't _want_ to do that ;-) There is no good reason for not having insets inside inside insets. It is an artificial limitation and it should be lifted. That

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 10:12:43PM +0100, José Matos wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2007 21:39:57 Martin Vermeer wrote: Cannot be (easily) done with insets. I would call that a feature: you shouldn't _want_ to do that ;-) There is no good reason for not having insets inside inside

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Richard Heck
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:57:18PM +0100, José Matos wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2007 19:01:48 Martin Vermeer wrote: Providing the corresponding lyx2lyx entry is going to be interesting. But then we need the inset in inset case that André mentioned. After it is

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 22:24:32 Martin Vermeer wrote: But you can! Just not half-way inside. It's not an artificial limitation. In HTML you can do it, but it is frowned upon, rightly. This is about logical mark-up. Where would you want to emphasize a passage that includes only half the

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 10:42:19PM +0100, José Matos wrote: On Tuesday 18 September 2007 22:24:32 Martin Vermeer wrote: But you can! Just not half-way inside. It's not an artificial limitation. In HTML you can do it, but it is frowned upon, rightly. This is about logical mark-up. Where

LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Richard Heck
Are these LFUNs still desirable in their present form? I have specifically in mind LFUN_FONT_CODE and LFUN_FONT_NOUN, which have really been replaced with logical character styles. Richard -- == Richard G Heck, Jr Professor of

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 01:42:47PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: > > Are these LFUNs still desirable in their present form? I have > specifically in mind LFUN_FONT_CODE and LFUN_FONT_NOUN, which have > really been replaced with logical character styles. > > Richard Hmmm yes... actually I would

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Richard Heck
Martin Vermeer wrote: On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 01:42:47PM -0400, Richard Heck wrote: Are these LFUNs still desirable in their present form? I have specifically in mind LFUN_FONT_CODE and LFUN_FONT_NOUN, which have really been replaced with logical character styles. Hmmm yes... actually

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 19:01:48 Martin Vermeer wrote: > Providing the corresponding lyx2lyx entry is going to be "interesting". But then we need the inset in inset case that André mentioned. After it is possible to have word in noun and emphasised right now and we should accommodate for

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:57:18PM +0100, José Matos wrote: > On Tuesday 18 September 2007 19:01:48 Martin Vermeer wrote: > > Providing the corresponding lyx2lyx entry is going to be "interesting". > > But then we need the inset in inset case that André mentioned. After it is > possible to

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 21:39:57 Martin Vermeer wrote: > Cannot be (easily) done with > insets. I would call that a feature: you shouldn't _want_ to do that ;-) There is no good reason for not having insets inside inside insets. It is an artificial limitation and it should be lifted. That

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 10:12:43PM +0100, José Matos wrote: > On Tuesday 18 September 2007 21:39:57 Martin Vermeer wrote: > > Cannot be (easily) done with > > insets. I would call that a feature: you shouldn't _want_ to do that ;-) > > There is no good reason for not having insets inside inside

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Richard Heck
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 08:57:18PM +0100, José Matos wrote: > On Tuesday 18 September 2007 19:01:48 Martin Vermeer wrote: > > Providing the corresponding lyx2lyx entry is going to be "interesting". > But then we need the inset in inset case that André mentioned. After it

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread José Matos
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 22:24:32 Martin Vermeer wrote: > But you can! Just not half-way inside. It's not an artificial > limitation. In HTML you can do it, but it is frowned upon, rightly. > This is about logical mark-up. Where would you want to emphasize a > passage that includes only half

Re: LFUN_FONT_*

2007-09-18 Thread Martin Vermeer
On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 10:42:19PM +0100, José Matos wrote: > On Tuesday 18 September 2007 22:24:32 Martin Vermeer wrote: > > But you can! Just not half-way inside. It's not an artificial > > limitation. In HTML you can do it, but it is frowned upon, rightly. > > This is about logical mark-up.