Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On 2009-03-07, rgheck wrote: José Matos wrote: On Friday 06 March 2009 13:57:34 Guenter Milde wrote: This would be moot if the paragraph had some kind of special markup, like: \begin{standard} ... \end{standard} or even \standard{...} if you prefer. Thinking about it, I found that

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On 2009-03-07, rgheck wrote: > José Matos wrote: >> On Friday 06 March 2009 13:57:34 Guenter Milde wrote: >> This would be moot if the paragraph had some kind of special markup, like: >> \begin{standard} >> ... >> \end{standard} >> or even >> \standard{...} if you prefer. Thinking about it, I

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org writes: | a bit like XML :-) I clearly remember who helped shoot that one down. -- Lgb

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

lar...@gullik.org (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes: Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org writes: | a bit like XML :-) I clearly remember who helped shoot that one down. Hmm, I feel a nice Friday thread brewing. JMarc

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On 2009-03-06, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: rgheck schreef: This is the same issue as with InsetOptArg. It shouldn't be an inset. It's a layout feature. Richard That's why I would like to see this difference to disappear. I'd rather like to see the difference

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de writes: I'd rather like to see the difference made clear. Layouts are block elements, you cannot have two layouts in one paragraph. Insets are inline elements (even if they sometimes contain block elements. Yes, and HTML shows well this distinction.

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: lar...@gullik.org (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes: Abdelrazak Younes you...@lyx.org writes: | a bit like XML :-) I clearly remember who helped shoot that one down. Hmm, I feel a nice Friday thread brewing. Usual suspects: me or André? Abdel.

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On Friday 06 March 2009 09:08:37 Guenter Milde wrote: I'd rather like to see the difference made clear. Layouts are block elements, you cannot have two layouts in one paragraph. Insets are inline elements (even if they sometimes contain block elements. No they are not. It is not possible

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com writes: Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2. implement the possibility to add comments to the outliner items. As Helge wrote, these will need to be stored in the document (as specific properties). I suppose this would be much easier to

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Charles de Miramon cmira...@kde-france.org writes: If I understand the corkboard approach, you start by writing random notes, an outline of your ideas, etc... Then you can shuffle it and link it and then you start to write your document. I'll have to read about it, then/ JMatc

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On 2009-03-06, José Matos wrote: On Friday 06 March 2009 09:08:37 Guenter Milde wrote: I'd rather like to see the difference made clear. Layouts are block elements, you cannot have two layouts in one paragraph. Insets are inline elements (even if they sometimes contain block elements.

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On 2009-03-06, Charles de Miramon wrote: If I understand the corkboard approach, you start by writing random notes, an outline of your ideas, etc... Then you can shuffle it and link it and then you start to write your document. But this can already be done with Branches: * Put your ideas in

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Ideally, the tool for organizing one's ideas before and during writing, would enable the user to choose between an outline mode and a mind map mode. Mind mapping tools such as xmind allow you to drag and drop your various topics/concepts in order to modify their order and hierarchy on the fly.

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On Friday 06 March 2009 13:57:34 Guenter Milde wrote: But it really is: like a footnote, the float definition can be inside a paragraph while the output is moved to a different place by the tex engine. You can even see the difference: * when you put the float inset into its own

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

eran.kaplin...@ualberta.ca To: lyx-de...@oak-tree.us, lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 11:32:44 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal Ideally, the tool for organizing one's ideas before and during writing, would enable the user

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On 2009-03-06, José Matos wrote: On Friday 06 March 2009 13:57:34 Guenter Milde wrote: like a footnote, the float definition can be inside a paragraph while the output is moved to a different place by the tex engine. You can even see the difference: * when you put the float inset into

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

José Matos wrote: On Friday 06 March 2009 13:57:34 Guenter Milde wrote: But it really is: like a footnote, the float definition can be inside a paragraph while the output is moved to a different place by the tex engine. You can even see the difference: * when you put the float inset

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Abdelrazak Younes writes: | a bit like XML :-) I clearly remember who helped shoot that one down. -- Lgb

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

lar...@gullik.org (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes: > Abdelrazak Younes writes: > | a bit like XML :-) > > I clearly remember who helped shoot that one down. Hmm, I feel a nice Friday thread brewing. JMarc

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On 2009-03-06, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: >> rgheck schreef: >>> This is the same issue as with InsetOptArg. It shouldn't be an inset. >>> It's a layout feature. >>> Richard >> That's why I would like to see this difference to disappear. I'd rather like to see

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Guenter Milde writes: > I'd rather like to see the difference made clear. > > Layouts are "block elements", you cannot have two layouts in one > paragraph. > > Insets are "inline elements" (even if they sometimes contain block > elements. Yes, and HTML shows well this

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: lar...@gullik.org (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) writes: Abdelrazak Younes writes: | a bit like XML :-) I clearly remember who helped shoot that one down. Hmm, I feel a nice Friday thread brewing. Usual suspects: me or André? Abdel.

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On Friday 06 March 2009 09:08:37 Guenter Milde wrote: > I'd rather like to see the difference made clear. > > Layouts are "block elements", you cannot have two layouts in one > paragraph. > > Insets are "inline elements" (even if they sometimes contain block > elements. No they are not. It is

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > rgheck writes: > >> Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >>> 2. implement the possibility to add comments to the outliner items. >>> As Helge wrote, these will need to be stored in the document (as >>> specific properties). I suppose this would be much

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Charles de Miramon writes: > If I understand the corkboard approach, you start by writing random notes, > an outline of your ideas, etc... Then you can shuffle it and link it and > then you start to write your document. I'll have to read about it, then/ JMatc

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On 2009-03-06, José Matos wrote: > On Friday 06 March 2009 09:08:37 Guenter Milde wrote: >> I'd rather like to see the difference made clear. >> Layouts are "block elements", you cannot have two layouts in one >> paragraph. >> Insets are "inline elements" (even if they sometimes contain block

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On 2009-03-06, Charles de Miramon wrote: > If I understand the corkboard approach, you start by writing random notes, > an outline of your ideas, etc... Then you can shuffle it and link it and > then you start to write your document. But this can already be done with Branches: * Put your ideas

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Ideally, the tool for organizing one's ideas before and during writing, would enable the user to choose between an outline mode and a mind map mode. Mind mapping tools such as xmind allow you to drag and drop your various topics/concepts in order to modify their order and hierarchy on the fly.

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On Friday 06 March 2009 13:57:34 Guenter Milde wrote: > But it really is: > > like a footnote, the float definition can be inside a > paragraph while the output is moved to a different place by the tex > engine. > > You can even see the difference: > > * when you put the float inset into its

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

insky" <eran.kaplin...@ualberta.ca> To: lyx-de...@oak-tree.us, lyx-devel@lists.lyx.org Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 11:32:44 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal Ideally, the tool for organizing one's ideas before and during writin

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On 2009-03-06, José Matos wrote: > On Friday 06 March 2009 13:57:34 Guenter Milde wrote: >> like a footnote, the float definition can be inside a >> paragraph while the output is moved to a different place by the tex >> engine. >> You can even see the difference: >> * when you put the float

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

José Matos wrote: On Friday 06 March 2009 13:57:34 Guenter Milde wrote: But it really is: like a footnote, the float definition can be inside a paragraph while the output is moved to a different place by the tex engine. You can even see the difference: * when you put the float inset

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Rob Oakes wrote: Dear Jürgen and other LyX Developers, Thank you very much for the kind welcome. Pursuant to your advice, I have gone through and tried to develop my thoughts on a few features that I would be excited to develop and add to LyX. Because of dummy-layouts and a few other

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Rob Oakes wrote: http://www.oak-tree.us/stuff/LyX-Proposal.pdf Thanks, this is a an interesting paper. I think that your proposal is overall compatible with LyX's approach, and I think LyX could be extended to support at least many of your ideas. The actual question now is: how to implement

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2. implement the possibility to add comments to the outliner items. As Helge wrote, these will need to be stored in the document (as specific properties). I suppose this would be much easier to implement after LyX's file format switched to XML, something that is

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com writes: Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2. implement the possibility to add comments to the outliner items. As Helge wrote, these will need to be stored in the document (as specific properties). I suppose this would be much easier to implement after LyX's file format

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com writes: Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2. implement the possibility to add comments to the outliner items. As Helge wrote, these will need to be stored in the document (as specific properties). I suppose this would be much easier to

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com writes: You could do that, but the problem with that kind of solution, as I see it, is that you then have to keep the note insets in the right place. This is the same issue as with InsetOptArg. It shouldn't be an inset. It's a layout feature. But it is a _note_.

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

rgheck schreef: This is the same issue as with InsetOptArg. It shouldn't be an inset. It's a layout feature. Richard That's why I would like to see this difference to disappear. Why is a note an Inset and the title an layout ? Why is a branch an inset and the abstract a layout ? Why do we

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On 2009-03-05, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: We can just show the contents of notes that are in the section paragraphs. This is what I had in mind too. Or have a 'show in outline' option if you prefer. I'd prefer a show summary/notes toggle in the outliner instead. Günter

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Guenter Milde wrote: On 2009-03-05, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: We can just show the contents of notes that are in the section paragraphs. This is what I had in mind too. Or have a 'show in outline' option if you prefer. I'd prefer a show summary/notes toggle in the

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: rgheck schreef: This is the same issue as with InsetOptArg. It shouldn't be an inset. It's a layout feature. Richard That's why I would like to see this difference to disappear. Why is a note an Inset and the title an layout ? Why is a branch an inset and the

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Rob Oakes wrote: Dear Jürgen and other LyX Developers, Thank you very much for the kind welcome. Pursuant to your advice, I have gone through and tried to develop my thoughts on a few features that I would be excited to develop and add to LyX. Because of dummy-layouts and a few other

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Rob Oakes wrote: > http://www.oak-tree.us/stuff/LyX-Proposal.pdf Thanks, this is a an interesting paper. I think that your proposal is overall compatible with LyX's approach, and I think LyX could be extended to support at least many of your ideas. The actual question now is: how to implement

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2. implement the possibility to add comments to the outliner items. As Helge wrote, these will need to be stored in the document (as specific properties). I suppose this would be much easier to implement after LyX's file format switched to XML, something that is

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

rgheck writes: > Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: >> 2. implement the possibility to add comments to the outliner items. >> As Helge wrote, these will need to be stored in the document (as >> specific properties). I suppose this would be much easier to >> implement after LyX's file

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: rgheck writes: Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote: 2. implement the possibility to add comments to the outliner items. As Helge wrote, these will need to be stored in the document (as specific properties). I suppose this would be much easier to

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

rgheck writes: > You could do that, but the problem with that kind of solution, as I > see it, is that you then have to keep the note insets in the right > place. This is the same issue as with InsetOptArg. It shouldn't be an > inset. It's a layout feature. But it is a

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

rgheck schreef: This is the same issue as with InsetOptArg. It shouldn't be an inset. It's a layout feature. Richard That's why I would like to see this difference to disappear. Why is a note an Inset and the title an layout ? Why is a branch an inset and the abstract a layout ? Why do we

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

On 2009-03-05, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: >We can just show the contents of notes that are in the section > paragraphs. This is what I had in mind too. > Or have a 'show in outline' option if you prefer. I'd prefer a "show summary/notes" toggle in the outliner instead. Günter

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Guenter Milde wrote: On 2009-03-05, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: We can just show the contents of notes that are in the section paragraphs. This is what I had in mind too. Or have a 'show in outline' option if you prefer. I'd prefer a "show summary/notes" toggle in the

Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Vincent van Ravesteijn wrote: rgheck schreef: This is the same issue as with InsetOptArg. It shouldn't be an inset. It's a layout feature. Richard That's why I would like to see this difference to disappear. Why is a note an Inset and the title an layout ? Why is a branch an inset and the

LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Dear Jürgen and other LyX Developers, Thank you very much for the kind welcome. Pursuant to your advice, I have gone through and tried to develop my thoughts on a few features that I would be excited to develop and add to LyX. Because of dummy-layouts and a few other graphics I wasn't able

LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal

Dear Jürgen and other LyX Developers, Thank you very much for the kind welcome. Pursuant to your advice, I have gone through and tried to develop my thoughts on a few features that I would be excited to develop and add to LyX. Because of dummy-layouts and a few other graphics I wasn't able